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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided |OT| We Asked For This
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GwyndolinCinder
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And the punching through walls cutscene
Think Multi tools unlock keypads and computers right? Not at home to check.
They do yeah.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Even as someone who has played DE:HR like 5 times this got me for a while. I ended up realising where to interact with the
helicopter so I sneaked round the left hand side quickly and then grabbed the battery out and saved the guy
RamaTheVoice
Member
Steam reviews are freaking out because of the microtransactions and the fact that some of the DLC is single-use.
Is it that much of a dealbreaker? I really want to play this but I can't see myself supporting a publisher that would design a $60 SP game around selling microtransactions. Does it affect the campaign in any tangible way?
Is it that much of a dealbreaker? I really want to play this but I can't see myself supporting a publisher that would design a $60 SP game around selling microtransactions. Does it affect the campaign in any tangible way?
CrichtonKicks
Member
That's all pretty much covered in his apartment:
Juggernaut Collective gave him the intel that the Task Force may be compromised. He got a friend of his to put in a good word for the Interpol job (you can find that in an email on his computer) and Sarif backed that up, giving him an amazing recommendation.
No, it's just Steam reviews being Steam reviews. Breach is a totally separate mode- story mode is free of microtransactions. And the game has New Game+ so you will be swimming in gear after you complete the game once.
I think MTs only affect the breach mode and don't touch campaign SP at all.
E: Nvm, I have just seen the shop in campaign mode. Wtf, they sell praxis kits 1€ a pop, credits etc. Disgusting. But I don't feel like I need to buy it, atleast this early in game (6h ish)
The DLC thing is beyond stupid however.
Typical overreaction.
The pre order bonus weapons are the exact same as ingame weapons..no difference really apart from cosmetics.
And reaction to micro transactions. Never once I felt I didn't have enough. If you play this like a Deus Ex game and explore thenyou'll be drowning in praxis kits, bio cells, equipments and crafting parts. You most likely won't be able to unlock every single upgrade for every single augument in your first playthrough but when has that been an issue in a Deus Ex game or any RPG in the first place? It has always been about putting points in things that compliment your playstyle. And yet by the time I got to the last mission I had 80-90% of the auguments unlocked.
When it comes to the breach mode, that's where microtransactions might offer something different. It does not affect the SP at all.
CrichtonKicks
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Weapon sounds in general are super weak. Reminds me of Wolfenstein TNO.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
This game his so game-y.Doesnt feel like they've tried to make a 2016 game at all.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
Anyone?
Randomizer123454444
Member
Can you elaborate a bit? Because it's a 2029 game from my understanding?
Krappadizzle
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GwyndolinCinder
Member
I mean in terms of game jank. Example: I break into someone's house , they are praying to a statue, i move the statue and they just carry on praying to it.
CrichtonKicks
Member
This game has the best hub since Vampire: Bloodlines and it may be the best one ever.
Randomizer123454444
Member
Aah, that clears it up. My first thought was that the game had too many scifi elements for your taste or something, but your description makes much more sense.
plasmawave
Banned
Night time hub looks pretty great.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It doesnt matter what year Deus Ex comes out, its always gonna prize player experimentation and interaction over top of the line realism or polished animations.
The game does feel archaic in some areas. Human Revolution already felt old in 2011, and Mankind Divided doesn't progress things much.
It's still good but I get what you are saying.
StereoVsn
Member
It's shady as fuck that they changed pre-order bonus to consumable after release. It's also shitty to have micro-transaction in-game store, story mode or not, still SP, no?
It's the same as Phantom Pain, it's crap pushed by the pubs that folks are eating up on $60 full releases.
Lister
Banned
To be fair 99.9999% of games out there would simple never let you move that statue in the first place.
Lister
Banned
Anyone else playing witht he Steam controller?
I'm liking it a lot, though I think I'm going to switch cover from left stick push to one of the paddles. Hate left stick push. Never tie an action that might be affecte dby movement to left stick push!
Also one complaint is that when using the scope my view is always shifted by several meters. I don't understand why, but it's never where I had my reticule before scoping. Annoying.
Love that it supports mouse mode + gamepad mode to seamlessly. Fantastic support.
I'm liking it a lot, though I think I'm going to switch cover from left stick push to one of the paddles. Hate left stick push. Never tie an action that might be affecte dby movement to left stick push!
Also one complaint is that when using the scope my view is always shifted by several meters. I don't understand why, but it's never where I had my reticule before scoping. Annoying.
Love that it supports mouse mode + gamepad mode to seamlessly. Fantastic support.
CrichtonKicks
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Man, after replaying HR last week I couldn't disagree more. MD is a huge step up in so many ways. Yeah it's not perfect but it's still a big improvement to me.
With TPP the FOB thing was mandatory for at least one mission and it seemed like the in game research stuff may have been balanced to make the FOB stuff more attractive.
With MD that doesn't seem to be the case. Unless they go in and patch the loot drops after the fact, in game the micro transaction stuff is completely unnecessary to get the full DX experience.
Breach may be a mess, I don't know, but that's not what I bought the game for.
Detroit I can see but I thought Hengsha was a nightmare to navigate.
badcrumble
Member
The game's excellent so far but it feels a lot tougher to get a strong sense of geography in Prague the way it felt comparatively easy in Detroit and Hengsha.
Hengsha was mazelike, deliberately, but it was also really heavily divided into visually and atmospherically distinct districts. I'd love to see that amount of verticality in Prague.
Man, though, especially with this game's experimental augs and the overall rebalancing to make running and gunning more feasible, Square-Enix has an amazingly solid foundation on their hands for this series and they're excellent at designing objectives with tons of ways to achieve them. Can't wait to see where they take it next.
Hengsha was mazelike, deliberately, but it was also really heavily divided into visually and atmospherically distinct districts. I'd love to see that amount of verticality in Prague.
Man, though, especially with this game's experimental augs and the overall rebalancing to make running and gunning more feasible, Square-Enix has an amazingly solid foundation on their hands for this series and they're excellent at designing objectives with tons of ways to achieve them. Can't wait to see where they take it next.
It does improve but I feel they should go further. I mean, things like a cutscene for takedowns, spotty AI and stilted animations already felt old in 2011.
Just run by them while cloaked.
CrichtonKicks
Member
The animations are indeed stilted but are still 100% better than HR's animations (lip synch not so much). I have never had any problem for the takedown cutscenes but I get why some people do. I do think they should have removed the brief black screen from them- I noticed some of the pre-release gameplay footage didn't have it so I'm assuming it's an intentional design decision and not an engine limitation.
Otherwise these games don't sell like Skyrim or AC so there are always going to be budget limitations. DX has never been a huge blockbuster, high budget franchise so I expect some jank is always going to be present.
Absolutely not:
Drop down, cloak, run to the left side of the helicopter and pull the battery out. Done in about 10 seconds and you save Sing to boot.
badcrumble
Member
God, though, the art direction for Human Revolution and Mankind Divided is so utterly on point. I wish the Mass Effect series had had art direction as incredibly thoughtful and atmosphere-heavy as Deus Ex or Dead Space.
I'm still finding myself running out of energy about as often as I did in HR, though partly because I'm using my powers much more often. I propose that in the next game, there should be augments that allow your batteries to be recharged with kinetic and solar energy and stuff (i.e. being outside during the daytime should slowly recharge your battery all the way to full) because I'm still chowing down on consumables fairly often.
I'm still finding myself running out of energy about as often as I did in HR, though partly because I'm using my powers much more often. I propose that in the next game, there should be augments that allow your batteries to be recharged with kinetic and solar energy and stuff (i.e. being outside during the daytime should slowly recharge your battery all the way to full) because I'm still chowing down on consumables fairly often.
CrichtonKicks
Member
Crafting is your friend.
To be fair, that is a good point. It's just that somehow I got under the impression they were greatly stepping up their game with Deus Ex. The quality is pretty much on par with what HR represented in 2011, which is a B grade game with some brilliant parts that made a cult following. I think the initial hype made expectations a bit higher than they should be.
At the very least I'm happy the cutscenes are more consistent with the gameplay now. Even though they are still pre recorded, the transition is really well done. Cutscenes were straight up garbage in HR.
Hopefully this sells really well and they can increase the budget for the next game.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Steam reviews are... healthy. God job SE!
Lister
Banned
Awesome, thanks!
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