diffusionx
Gold Member
The situation with this game is going to be so different in 3-6 months, I know the FOMO is real but if you don't like how it is now just wait. I am sure this game is going to be paying the bills at DF HQ for a long long time.
DF: Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S - A Huge Improvement Over Last-Gen Consoles
SaturnSaturn
Member
Still not playing this on console until next years next-gen patch hit, lots of games to keep me busy until then.
I can't even tell if half these people in this thread are serious or not... We are comparing one of the worst optimized and buggiest game ever, where one console had undeniably much more effort put in than the other. The PS5 is just an unlocked PS4 Pro version, Xbox Series X has two modes, enhanced graphics and different resolutions compared to Xbox One X.
Riky
$MSFT
Excuse? It's a feature that makes your game better, in this case a LOT better. Sony should implement it as quickly as possible and then you can all come back and agree it's a massive win.
yurqqa
Member
Why is that "a new low" ?
They just guessed why there's the option on Xbox and no option on PS5, cause it really looks strange.
GenericUser
Member
If only you could buy these consoles....
Entroyp
Member
PS5 seems to be fine, but it's only the Pro version. I'm waiting for the next gen version if I ever decide to play this game.
TheDude108
Member
M_A_C
Member
yeah the Xbox fans are either joke posts or insane. I cant tell either.
You keep repeating this VRR line but it seems like you don't know what VRR actually does.
VRR is not a substitute for stable frame rate performance and doesn't remove the effects of slowdowns.
It has just the main purpose of avoiding tearing and judder when frame rate fluctuates and other solutions like v-synch are not enabled.
XSX doesn't perform as well as PS5 in performance mode, that is all. Just like PS5 lacks the quality mode.
ethomaz
Banned
Summary
- PS5 runs limited to PS4 Pro DSR max resolution: 1188p (averages between972p-1188p)
- PS5 is very close to a locked 60fps with minor drops (driving can drop to 50s)
- Series X has two modes: 30fps and 60fps
- Series X 60fps mode runs at locked 1080p and dips a lot lower than PS5 version (it drops even in areas PS5 shows a rock solid 60fps) - Edit: seems like
It has a better NPC/Vehicle density (still lower than 30fps mode).
- Series X 30fps mode can peak at 1728p with a average of 1512p... seems solid 30fps... add ambient occlusion and NPD/Vehicle density.
- Series S uses a lower quality version of 30fps mode found in Series X with a resolution that can peak at 1296p but keep most of time around 1080p... there is the same advantages of 30fps mode in Series like increase NPD/Vehicle density. Most os parts plays at solid 30fps with very little drops.
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- PS5 runs limited to PS4 Pro DSR max resolution: 1188p (averages between972p-1188p)
- PS5 is very close to a locked 60fps with minor drops (driving can drop to 50s)
- Series X has two modes: 30fps and 60fps
- Series X 60fps mode runs at locked 1080p and dips a lot lower than PS5 version (it drops even in areas PS5 shows a rock solid 60fps) - Edit: seems like
It has a better NPC/Vehicle density (still lower than 30fps mode).
- Series X 30fps mode can peak at 1728p with a average of 1512p... seems solid 30fps... add ambient occlusion and NPD/Vehicle density.
- Series S uses a lower quality version of 30fps mode found in Series X with a resolution that can peak at 1296p but keep most of time around 1080p... there is the same advantages of 30fps mode in Series like increase NPD/Vehicle density. Most os parts plays at solid 30fps with very little drops.
Cyberpunk 2077 on PS5/Xbox Series X|S: a night and day improvement over last-gen consoles?
It's no secret that Cyberpunk 2077 has launched in a bit of a state on the last generation consoles - with the base Pla…
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Nothing can stop the Spencer sauce.
MasterCornholio
Member
Same I think the patch will make both versions much better.
ethomaz
Banned
Nope.
Read: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2077-cyberpunk-2077-next-gen-console-tech-analysis
60fps modes are equal.
Only 30fps mode in both Series X and Series S does have increased NPC/Vehicle density.
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yurqqa
Member
OK. Now the console with more modes wins.
Riky
$MSFT
It's nothing to do with marketing. Look at the Warzone comparison, Series X is much better than PS5 because it's far easier for Devs to tweak BC games. Microsoft just did a better job than Sony in this regard. Also Rocket League and Star Wars Squadrons, no marketing deal with those but same result.
Astorian
Member
- They suggest turning off chromatic aberration and film grain.
- PS5 uses same settings as PS4 Pro, XSX/S same settings as Xbox one X quality mode, PS5 resolution tops at 1188p, XSX (quality) 1512p to 1728p, XSX (performance) maxes at 1080p and occasionally below, XSS max 1296p.
- A big step down from PC but best visuals is on XSX quality mode, higher crowd density on Xbox too.
- FPS: PS5 is 60 mostly with dips to mid/low 50s sometimes when driving, XSX (performance) dips more often than PS5 and there is game sometimes freezes for a few seconds when driving, XSX (quality) and XSS are stable 30 (possible IQ issue on XSS).
- Suggest going for PS5 if you want 60 FPS and XSX quality mode if you want best visuals.
- PS5 uses same settings as PS4 Pro, XSX/S same settings as Xbox one X quality mode, PS5 resolution tops at 1188p, XSX (quality) 1512p to 1728p, XSX (performance) maxes at 1080p and occasionally below, XSS max 1296p.
- A big step down from PC but best visuals is on XSX quality mode, higher crowd density on Xbox too.
- FPS: PS5 is 60 mostly with dips to mid/low 50s sometimes when driving, XSX (performance) dips more often than PS5 and there is game sometimes freezes for a few seconds when driving, XSX (quality) and XSS are stable 30 (possible IQ issue on XSS).
- Suggest going for PS5 if you want 60 FPS and XSX quality mode if you want best visuals.
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Little Chicken
Banned
Is the Xbox version still waiting for the patch the PS5 version already received?
CloudShiner
Member
This is a case of 'which one is a little less shit than the other' really. Makes me feel sick just watching the footage of that jank.
Mr Moose
Member
This game isn't 120fps. It's also a buggy, blurry mess.
ethomaz
Banned
That is only about quality vs performance mode.
Performance mode uses the same settings in both.
longdi
Banned
yucks, insert ps5 covid joke.
but seriously, how did rockstar get rdr2 running so well on last gen console. cdpr is such a hack studio.
MisterXDTV
Member
To keep it interesting Xbox has to play the last generation version of games
Otherwise this would be another L probably
Otherwise this would be another L probably
Windom Earle
Member
PS5 wins the sandbox fight between the two disabled kids unless you are ok with 30fps.
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Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Haven't watched the video but does this take into account the patch released literally last night on PS5? Because things did improve quite a bit there.
And since videos usually take a day or two to process and edit and upload, I'm guessing that's not the case.
And since videos usually take a day or two to process and edit and upload, I'm guessing that's not the case.
octiny
Banned
"Xbox Series X also offers more than just backwards compatibility. While it does seem to share a bunch of features from the Xbox One X version of the game, it gains the ability to choose between quality and performance modes - a choice you don't have on One X. Performance mode locks to 1080p and runs with an unlocked frame-rate up to 60 frames per second, but curiously, it cannot match PlayStation 5's raw output. In like-for-like tests, it does drop lower while areas that do not have any slowdown at all on PS5 can have some minor issues on Series X. However, city density in terms of NPC and vehicle count sees Series X clearly running with higher settings - it's not a like-for-like comparison."
Mr Moose
Member
Endless Fluff
Banned
With how shit the TAA works at lower resolution, I'd gladly take that 30fps quality mode on PS5 as well if it were available. With the added bonus of having better ambient occlusion, higher crowd density and what ever else is improved on XSX quality mode.
This thread is the same cancer as always with you disingenuous plastic bois.
Yes, READ.
Series X runs performance mode with higher settings than PS5 does.
This thread is the same cancer as always with you disingenuous plastic bois.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
There will be a dozen patches down the line.
Well John had to throw that fanbase a bone. And he's technically not wrong the PS5 holds 60 slightly better but I'm with you I would prefer a more vibrant and alive world with slight dips on XSX.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
From that link
"In like-for-like tests, it does drop lower while areas that do not have any slowdown at all on PS5 can have some minor issues on Series X. However, city density in terms of NPC and vehicle count sees Series X clearly running with higher settings - it's not a like-for-like comparison."
Talking exclusively about performance mode. Series X has higher settings even outside Quality mode.
DonJorginho
Banned
What a bunch of childish cunts in this thread.
NEXT GEN IN GENERAL IS A GOOD PLACE TO PLAY THIS GAME.
Grow up for fuck sake, whether you're on PS5 or XSX/XSS you're getting a good experience.
NEXT GEN IN GENERAL IS A GOOD PLACE TO PLAY THIS GAME.
Grow up for fuck sake, whether you're on PS5 or XSX/XSS you're getting a good experience.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It handily wins in an empty city.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Correct, but it could also render this comparison invalid and untrue if things changed last minute; thus the validity of the question and relevance to the discussion.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
don't think VRR can save you in this one
Has anyone seen this happen? I've played 8 hours now and haven't seen any issues while driving on the SX
octiny
Banned
No, they actually don't and I just quoted you on it.
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Riky
$MSFT
I know exactly what it does. It matches screen refresh to GPU output, that means you don't see the drops as it's still totally smooth as they are still matched. Judder and tearing are due to your TV refreshing at a different rate to your GPU and delivering incomplete frames.
Physiognomonics
Member
Why december 27th ?
Riky
$MSFT
I haven't, it must be random as no other analysis has seen it either.
Fake
Member
Both are running on BC. Is actually great because when the update to next gen comes will be a great way of comparison.
Besides console war fuel, I really like when this happens.
saintjules
Member
It doesn't go past 1080p I think from what I've heard. I guess that's enough for some people, but there's this fizzle look to the image that adds to the blurriness. I don't know - doesn't feel or look right to me.
Neo Blaster
Member
Considering you're comparing a 30fps mode on XSX to a 60fps one on PS5, bragging about crowd density doesn't even make sense.
onnextflix5
Member
If anyone claiming victory with this mess, needs to get their heads checked out lol
Riky
$MSFT
ethomaz
Banned
Thanks fixed the summary.