Fabieter
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I mean iq on consoles isnt ideal but we are living in a world where resolution isn't as important as it used to. This is true on all platforms including pc.
Will you stop all your console gaming now?
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[Digital Foundry] Final Fantasy 16 - PlayStation 5 - Tech Review
I mean iq on consoles isnt ideal but we are living in a world where resolution isn't as important as it used to. This is true on all platforms including pc.
Will you stop all your console gaming now?
VeganElduderino
Member
When is the PC version coming?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I watched the video and it doesn't at all....what are you watching.
Mr Moose
Member
TheRedRiders
Member
I've been critical of the games visuals in other threads, but honestly for the most part the IQ and resolution have been pretty solid from what I experienced in that demo.
I know 720p doesn't sound good, but you won't even notice when you play.
DenchDeckard
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omegasc
Member
I wouldn't care if it was 320x240 as long as the final image is nice. FSR1 is the odd choice here, but I believe that was a decision made so they could focus on getting it as bug free as possible, which in the end it seems like they did. Future patches can tweak and improve performance mode, I hope.
Mr Moose
Member
Do you have a timestamp for mid 30s? I noticed 50s but not 30s. I skipped straight to the performance part though, I might've missed it if it isn't in that part.Mr Moose If you watch the video it shows it dropping to the mid 50s in combat. mid 30s in Eikon fights....mid 30s...
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Kvally
Member
Of course.
Zathalus
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24:02.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
I've just played 7 hours straight on a 65 OLED in performance, perfectly amazing right the way through.....nothing 'appeared' 720p to me.
Games a fucking marvel. I need to put it down cause it's 7.30am and I gotta work at midday lol, 2 hours sleep ahead! XD
Mr Moose
Member
Thanks, missed the flying part, I was looking at the big bastard fight.
Kvally
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ive played Zelda for over 100 hours this past month and you can definitely notice 720p. It is one of the if not the worst IQ ive ever seen in a video game.
Puscifer
Member
I refuse to believe this, 720? Yeah I'm definitely waiting for PC in this case.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Can someone explain to me this 40fps if on 120hz display ?
I have my ps5 hooked up to my gaming monitor which is 4k 144hz. Will this mean I get 40fps in quality mode instead of 30 out the gate ?
If so I’m going that route.
In the demo I didn’t experience any jarring drops in performance mode and it looked great.
Mr Moose
Member
I am not sure if this game supports 40fps/120Hz mode, at least not yet.
Bernardougf
Member
As usual in this generation.. time to wait for a more stable and better perfomance game in 6 to 12 months and play the complete version cheaper
If it dosent come ? Wait to play it on the ps5 pro
If it dosent come ? Wait to play it on the ps5 pro
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Low Moral Fibre
Member
I mean it's obviously very low resolution like it or not.
I said before the pixel counts that it looked 720p just by eyeballing the demo.
I think a lot of people comment on these threads without having a clue what they are looking at and that's fine but it means people are arguing past each other and not with each other. You maybe happy with how it looks but it's objectively very poor IQ.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Matrix dropped to 1080p at times (though it was mostly 1440p), but its still more next gen than anything on the market.
What you fell for was PR. PR for cross gen games to be exact. This was always going to happen to next gen only games like starfield and FF16.
Now the fact that they cant get a decent 60 fps mode working is another story, and is likely tied to the hardware in the PS5 and XSX. The AMD CPUs in these machines are only 3.5 Ghz and even their PC counterparts with 4x more cache struggle in games compared to intel CPUs which were lambasted for poor thermals, but are now outperforming AMD Zen 2 CPUs thanks to their higher clocks. I think we have to stop pretending these consoles have good CPUs because the latest games prove they still have a CPU bottleneck.
Lastly, games like Redfall and Star Wars are proof that PCs wont fix anything. i legit had to stop playing star wars on PC because i got tired of the damn stuttering in koboh. Before that i had it locked to 40 fps and it still didnt help much. It sucks but you are really underestimating how widespread and multi-layered this issue is.
X-Wing
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cripterion
Member
Lol at the people saying the game ran smoothly in the demo thread.
This is quite an embarrassing situation, we are talking about an action game with poor performance, an action game that we are supposed to run at 30fps...
They should have just gone with DMC engine and call it a day.
Also saw the ACG review and yeah.. this game feels off and could pass as something completely different from a Final Fantasy game.
This is quite an embarrassing situation, we are talking about an action game with poor performance, an action game that we are supposed to run at 30fps...
They should have just gone with DMC engine and call it a day.
Also saw the ACG review and yeah.. this game feels off and could pass as something completely different from a Final Fantasy game.
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Neo_game
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It is a bit of both. Instead of 720P may be it should be 900p with some compromise elsewhere I think like textures. But no amount of programming skills would get boss battles at 1080P 60fps on PS5. We will see how the PC handles it next year but this engine seems taxing on the hardware.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's not locked, it's still prone to dropping to mid 50s in heavy situations despite being 720p.
Mr Moose
Member
This is Square-Enix, DMC is Capcom.
X-Wing
Member
True, but that is mostly in the big battles with the Eikon. Still far from the 30 that were being claimedIt's not locked, it's still prone to dropping to mid 50s in heavy situations despite being 720p.
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Kvally
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and drops to 37fps in battles as well.It's not locked, it's still prone to dropping to mid 50s in heavy situations despite being 720p.
There is no LOCKED. If it was locked, that blue line wouldn't budge throughout the entire battles.
Personnaly I am glad.
I strongly feared that devs would forgo graphical advancements in the pursuit of high resolutions, but it seems that they still want to push the visual envelope even if it means lower res.
4K is and always will be a waste of resource. If you want it, go PC
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GHG
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It's not locked, it's still prone to dropping to mid 50s in heavy situations despite being 720p.
VRR?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Low Moral Fibre
Member
cripterion
Member
I know and good on them to try something new but if you're going to go the action route just pick a good engine.
GHG
Member
Riky has been redeemed.
I do recall him saying VRR was a big win in the resident evil village thread when that game dropped into similar teritorry (framerate wise) on consoles.
It's a shame he's not here to rally the spirits of those looking to play this in performance mode. We could really use one of his pep talks right now.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
DF tested Spiderman on PC with a 4090 last year and found that it was topping out at 65 fps with RT, native 4k and all bells and whistles with a zen 2 3600 CPU which is roughly on par with the PS5.
They then switched out the CPU with a top of the line 13900k and the framerate shot up to 129 fps.
Is Insominac bad at coding? Is Nixxes? Or is it the hardware? lol
I am all for criticizing lazy devs but I agree no amount of programming skills will overcome a hardware deficit. If that was true, ND wouldve been able to run uncharted 4 at 1080p 60 fps like they had originally claimed and demonstrated. They are literally the best in the business and they couldnt overcome it.
I say lets wait for these games to come out on PC. Gotham Knights, Hogwarts, Star Wars and Redfall have some really poor CPU utilization that explain their poor performance on consoles. we might see the same thing for Starfield and FF16.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Tears of the Kingdom wasn't that long ago. That game is ridiculously polished and bug-free.
GHG
Member
To be fair, this is just about the fights where the game drops to a static 720p
In the traversal in performance mode, the game is seen dropping to low 40s and high 30s. VRR ain't doing shit there. Needs to be at least 48hz for it.
Oh wow. So stable framerate at or above 60fps really would be the best solution all round.
FlyyGOD
Member
I call cap on this. I'm sure a less expensive PC could run this game perfectly.
The article is dated march 1
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FlyyGOD
Member
What does RT look like at 720p?
Bojji
Member
I completed horizon dlc few days ago, i can't believe how good it looks (and runs) compare to any other AAA games on consoles.
Guerilla i in a league of its own since PS4. Even naughty dog is behind. Only insomniac is very close.
As for FFXVI, quality is not playable to me so performance is the way to go even with low res.
Guerilla i in a league of its own since PS4. Even naughty dog is behind. Only insomniac is very close.
As for FFXVI, quality is not playable to me so performance is the way to go even with low res.
FlyyGOD
Member
They haven't maxed out these systems yet. Japanese developers haven't been the best at getting the most out of technology as they used to be.But but we don't Pro consoles. The developers haven't maxed out the consoles.
