RT is useless but somehow it'll be bad that XSS doesn't have it.The gaming side has gotten to the point that I don't even want to visit it anymore. We have a racing game with multiple options for RT in game and a performance option for none at all and there's still complaining about it even having RT. Something no one thought would be possible in real time on consoles.
The only thing that will work is if the new consoles are modular and allow cheaper upgrades.
I can already sense a Pro console post fromHeisenbergFX4 incoming but investing in a new console for the same brand, same generation, just to get marginal improvements is a big ask for a lot of people. Pro and One X barely made a blip in the sales. Having modular components will make it a lot easier and affordable for people*.
* but then you're basically turning them into PCs.
True, true. I think time is wasted trying to model the underneath, however if you make cars easily flippable, then it will rear it's ugly head.
does not look that impressive graphically , although srirekha is cute
also ratchet and clank ripped a fart is a good RT example.
Jeez! It's his personal opinion, unlike game quality,how can you disagree with what this man finds attractive?
The RT reflections in that shot is very high quality, its the fall back cube maps for object in the distance are lower quality."At 30fps, with high resolution, we have ray-tracing mirror reflections"
The 'high resolution' reflections shown in the b-roll when she says that...
A game thats running at 60fps with advanced physics with dynamic tod/weather with highly detailed environments and 24 car grid with in game RT is mediocre?
Its literally a weather setting, there are tons of video's without the mist where you can clearly see the detail on the tracks.It's 60fps*, except if you want to take full advantage of the RT - where it's 30fps - and doesn't go higher in PC online.
It's ray-traced* on track, yet the ray-tracing either looks like shit (reflections) or is barely noticeable (RTAO):
So much of the detail in this game is just lost behind the amount of mist they're layering onto the tracks.
Its a zoomed in photomode shot again from John which he loves do for some weird reasons.RT is meant to make objects feel more grounded within the game world, yet the game has one of the worst feelings of that in recent memory. The cars look like they've been pasted in, with lighting that often looks totally divorced from the rest of the scene:
It goes to show that just having these RT features is no easy ticket to making a game look good.
They are all fully 3D, the tracks are a big improvement over anything we've seen in a track racer.
Hopefully it's consistent on all tracks, GT7 comes to mind with that one Dragon Trail layout with horrendous, copy paste, rotating tree sprites like in first DOOM or something.
But it is. Haven't you ever talked to someone from the Microsoft support hotline?
I didn't but I work for a french company... so I KNOW
A game thats running at 60fps with advanced physics with dynamic tod/weather with highly detailed environments and 24 car grid with in game RT is mediocre?
Yeah, comparing Forza and Grand Turismo, what a concept. Nobody would even think of doing such a thing! Certainly never been done before in the history of the two franchises.So John wants to compare a current-gen exclusive game with a last-gen game that was released 18 months ago?
Yeah, let's also compare GT4 with Forza Motorsport or FM2 with GT7 while you're at it.
Its on the whole car what are you on about. Literally every game with RT reflections has some sort of fallback reflections or lower quality lod outside maybe CP2077 on pc with path tracing. Its running on fucking low end RDNA 2.0 console hardware, fuck did you expect full res infinty distanced path traced reflections.
It looks great and a step up from every similar game released before it.
yes and? The one on the left is FM2023.
NO its not, its literally John panning the zoomed camera in photomode with hiddin ui.
You generally compare the latest version of each franchise with each other. Forza and GT comparisons have been coming out since Forza first came out. The two racing games are the flagship simcade franchises from rival gaming companies. It would be odd (and likely the first time) to not compare them.
Yeah even though i love racing games, Forza, and other PC racers, i have to say that real race tracks can be quite boring, and a lot of them look very similar to each other.
I don't think it should be a easy win . All this next gen this and next gen that about these console is a load of bollocks imo. We are not going to see massive leaps like 16 bit - 32 bit etc anymore. Racing games looked good last gen and it's just like we have had a new cpu/gpu in our consoles so everything just looks a bit better here and there. Sure there is always room for improvements but it will be gradual.
GT7 does look great in several areas, but it's the principle. Two games from different generations should not be compared.
So, as of this point and until now, Digital Foundry should have been doing 1:1 comparisons between GT7 (2022) and FM7 (2017), as those are the latest entries in their respective franchises?
They did compare Sport and FM7 and found GT Sport to be the better looking game. Since GT7 on PS4 is just slightly better then Sport what would be the point? Just to confirm it's still better looking?
