Avatar is a Ubisoft game. Last time I read an interview about console development they were saying they woud not use any bespoke hardware on any machine in order to keep their engines compatible between platforms.Yeah, developers graphs are one thing and actual performance is another. Avatar is one of those games where 6700 was faster than PS5, so no secret magic rendering here:
It performs close to PC code despite not using PS/MS on PC. This game also runs good on RDNA2/3 so it's not typical Nvidia vs. AMD difference in RT (like Cyberpunk).
Yep XSX is not "true" RDNA2. Both PS5 and XSX are RDNA1.5Both PS5 and XBSX are early RDNA2 designs before AMD finalized RDNA2.
You can see the difference by looking at the CUs.
Regardless of how you guys feel, internally AMD, Sony and Microsoft had codename for these chips.
PS5:
Navi10 Lite = GFX1000/1001
Navi12 Lite = GFX1013/1014 (Major Revision)
XBSX:
Navi21 Lite = 1020
The GFX number can tell you where the chip lies in terms of development time frame.
Notice RDNA1 GFX is in the 101X range while RDNA2 is in the GFX 103X range.
At the end of the day, the API is the determining factor the makes these chips different.
actually, they use mesh shaders/primitive shaders on consoles and not on PC.
I think the truest and purest RDNA2/3/4 is an unreachable target for any PlayStation hardware. Purity isn't Sony's forte, Playstation is built on hope and works with emotional support.The circle starts again:
Is PS5 Pro gonna be RDNA 3, RDNA 3.5 or RDNA 4?
I would say RDNA 4 but what do I know?
Did you even read?
He goes on to say "AMD almost exclusively uses terms like .1 for minor bug fixes for partially unintended behavior." which is true.
That 1.1 is 10% greater than 1.0, XSX CU/IE is 10% superior and version number rules...
Wrong, XSX's GPU supports DirectX12 Ultimate. AMD's Phoenix APU's RDNA 3 IGP is missing PC's discrete RDNA 3's infinity cache (L3 cache for GPU).
Both RDNA 2 and RDNA 3 have "BVH4 with 1 triangle" RT core design, hence the raw RT power is about the same. Path trace's RT saturation shows RX 6800's 60 CU and RX 7800 XT's 60 CU being similar.
Not enough
It was way easier to outperform the 8th gen. I bought a RX 580 under 200, and it was arguably even better than the One X.
Is today the unofficial crazy thread resurrection day?
Cut that in half when comparing it to the PS5
Most likely because of the heatsink.
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Well, the 2070 Ti isn’t a thing, so no. You probably mean the 2070 Super. As far as I’m aware, Alex never implied that the 3060 would be on par with a Pro since he did a few tests pitting the regular PS5 against the 2070S and they often were a close match with the PS5 pulling way ahead in exclusives. He might have said the 3060/2070S are close to a base PS5 and this isn’t too far off.Didn't bugaga say the ps5 pro performance would be in the range of a 3060 or nvidia 2070ti???
PlayStation 5 Pro Feels Like Upgrading From an RTX 3060 to an RTX 4070; PSSR Can Improve Ray Tracing Quality
Upgrading from the base model to the PlayStation 5 Pro feels like doing so from an RTX 3060 to an RTX 4070, according to an early analysis
Didn't bugaga say the ps5 pro performance would be in the range of a 3060 or nvidia 2070ti???
PlayStation 5 Pro Feels Like Upgrading From an RTX 3060 to an RTX 4070; PSSR Can Improve Ray Tracing Quality
Upgrading from the base model to the PlayStation 5 Pro feels like doing so from an RTX 3060 to an RTX 4070, according to an early analysis
But he's wrong.
You going to cry broken port but post terrible 3rd party ports that don't utilize the PS5's I/O | best in class data streaming?Lol, you seriously use this broken port and in day one version to that?
2070S is crippled by low memory amount but in raw power it's still around PS5
You going to cry broken port but post terrible 3rd party ports that don't utilize the PS5's I/O | best in class data streaming?
Don’t bother, Sony diehards will only bring up bad Sony ports as the true power of the PS5. Despite other Sony ports like Ghost, Returnal, and Horizon having none of these issues. Or literally every other single game in existence.Lol, you seriously use this broken port and in day one version to that?
2070S is crippled by low memory amount but in raw power it's still around PS5
Saying they aren't RDNA 2 was ban worthy at one point.
It is my measure as it uses what PC's with 2070S can't match unlike ports that are built for all types of variables.
And hilariously never bought up DLSS with those 2070/3060 comparisons, but they won’t shut up about PSSR.
That's just shitty work ethic. You've seen fan trailers right? Ones people throw together for free in their spare time? They really aren't that far off from what AAA put out. Perfect example of why AAA gaming is just bleeding money. Sure you can spend a year making a trailer, but you can also spend 3 days. If you have a metrics guy who says he crunched the numbers and he knows there's ROI for spending a year making a trailer, walk him out of the building immediately.
Which means those figures should be cut in half for a better comparison to the PS5
I'm kind of hopeful there will be an edge case where they can find a real use for the dual-issue compute. I know it's highly unlikely, but life is based on hopes, right?
I don't see PS5 Pro's GPU listedYou see that 35TF AMD GPU is weaker than 29TF Nvidia GPU?
Pro is rumored to have 33.5TF. 4070 is measured from lower clock, it actually runs ~2700MHz in games so it's ~32TF, yet still performs 13% better than 35TF AMD GPU.
Also teraflops doesn't matter either and mesh shaders are a fuss
