lol, Gamefreak would still fuck it up
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Best Pokemon I played in a decade. Haters gonna hate. Gamefreak could obviously still do much, much more.
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
The hardware has almost nothing to do with it, the game is just ugly as fuck. It's an art direction failure. BotW looked significantly better 5 years ago.
Saber
Newd Member
The ugliest game from modern times. Might be fun(which is very subjective, video was pretty tame), but its like they discovered how to make a wheel on 2021.
Nothing to do with the plataform. Switch has a lot o visual pleasing games, even showed some examples on this video.
GF is just a bunch of neanderthal people that resides on the Stone Age.
Nothing to do with the plataform. Switch has a lot o visual pleasing games, even showed some examples on this video.
GF is just a bunch of neanderthal people that resides on the Stone Age.
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akaFullmetal
Member
The pop in is atrocious, game world design seems bland. Luckily the gameplay is fun.
BusierDonkey
Member
Is this with RTX on or off?
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Way, way too charitable. You're doing a technical review. You don't need to keep repeating how nice the gameplay is to sweeten the pill.
A game from one of the biggest entertainment franchises in the world, which should have *massive* budgets with this kind of technical shortcomings is unacceptable. It's a shame that some try to excuse it. This isn't made by a small indie team with limited resources.
A game from one of the biggest entertainment franchises in the world, which should have *massive* budgets with this kind of technical shortcomings is unacceptable. It's a shame that some try to excuse it. This isn't made by a small indie team with limited resources.
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Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
They probably should mention it a few times since it's honestly the main takeaway when you play it. A purely technical video is fine, but the end result is just endlessly shitting on a game that's actually pretty fun. Some context isn't a bad thing.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
In a technical review, this game absolutely deserves to be shat on. There is no justification. If it was done by an indie dev that needs to put few eggs in a couple of specific baskets because they don't have the resources, it'd be justifiable, but this is simply disrespectful toward the customer's intelligence.
It feels like they literally said, "They'll accept and love anything we feed them, so fuck spending some money to use modern tech." Fuck that attitude.
Given sufficient budgets, graphics and gameplay are not in conflict. You can have both. One does not justify neglecting the other.
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Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
They can shit on the technical aspects. But additional information providing a full picture of the game is never a bad thing.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
This is a technical review. That "additional information" is spurious, and literally just an attempt to appease Nintendo's PR so that they don't get too bent out of shape.
This game deserves all the criticism it gets and likely more, without any "buts," because there are no "buts" that justify the technical jank. They're not related and just dilute the message that needs to be heard loud and clear since Nintendo's been deaf to it for way, way too long.
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Fake
Member
I don't recall they doing this over Deadly Premonition 2 for Nintendo Switch. The literary hit DP2 with the hammer.
They know it's Pokemon franchise. They need to think twice before put an avalanche of critic. Look at John over Twitter. Lots of angry Pokemon fans bashing his tweet over graphics.
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lastmessiah
Member
There wasn't much of a game in Deadly Premonition 2. Also, it was unplayable.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
These people are literally the problem.
Fake
Member
Not my point. Remember to read the follow up.
And I not disagree with
Punished Miku
vision. He is right, but DF need to do with every game, not just big franchises.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
If anything we would be far more critical if they made games for XSX/PS5. Fair or unfair, we hold Nintendo titles to a different standard.
PeteBull
Member
Its not alex who does the vid
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Sounds like they were highly critical of the graphics and technical performance then, as they should be. I still fail to see a problem. If a game looks really bad visually, but also by some freak occurrence is also the best playing entry in the series in 20 years, then you'd think it would be worth a mention or two.
More accurate information in the video is never better than less information. The gameplay is good, and it provides better context about what this game is. Deadly Premonition has awful gameplay. But I'd hope they mention that the writing and humor are solid. I'd have to check that video.
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Xdrive05
Member
So does Gamefreak not have access to the same technical codebase and skillset as the rest of Nintendo developers?
Because BotW was a freaking LAUNCH game and a port, and it is waaaay technically more proficient and stable than this. Why couldn't Gamefreak use a derivation of that engine, or at least the minds who made it run so well on the Switch all those years ago, when making their 2022 game?
Because BotW was a freaking LAUNCH game and a port, and it is waaaay technically more proficient and stable than this. Why couldn't Gamefreak use a derivation of that engine, or at least the minds who made it run so well on the Switch all those years ago, when making their 2022 game?
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Fake
Member
Totally agree. But you expect this on a game journalist review, not on a tech video. Gameplay > Graphics anytime.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
ladies and gentlemen, I present you "the problem."
This kind of attitude is why Nintendo gets away with feeding its fans with games that are extremely sub-par in terms of graphics and tech, despite literally pissing money every time they go to the toilet. I guess you get what you deserve.
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Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Sure lol, that can be my new tag. "The Problem."
They're putting out a product, and people can buy it if they want. You sound like you're really emotionally invested in making sure Pokemon looks bad. Hopefully we all hate the next game more. Then GameFreak can finally get what they deserve!
Saber
Newd Member
I believe is pretty fair. DF is a technical focused channel, other games have received harshly criticism in the past(well deserved), which I totally agree with John Linneman in this case, because "it's not fair to the customer". The reason fun aspect should not be focused(not saying it shouldn't be mentioned) is because it's subjective, varies from people to people. I beleive people seek DF videos for the technical aspects of a game(visuals, perfomance, etc), if they want to know if it's fun or not they should watch reviews(which are mostly positive).
John in his video mentioned that he likes and finds Deadly Premoniton a fun game, still didn't save it from being hammered for it's terrible port treatment.
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Agent_Nobody
Banned
They commented on stuff outside of the technical aspects in the Deadly Premonition 2 video, it's just that all of it was negative because it was a terrible game.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
You sound like you're really emotionally invested in justifying selling you a sub-par product, despite the fact that its sales would absolutely justify investing in tech to make it up to par. Even friggin Bandai Namco, which has a fraction of Nintendo's revenues, has been investing in new tech.
But hey, keep drinking that Kool-Aid.
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Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
I'm not emotionally invested at all. I think their video was fine, and I think mentioning the gameplay being good is fine. I think the graphics are bad and should be criticized for the bulk of the video.You sound like you're really emotionally invested in justifying selling you a sub-par product, despite the fact that its sales absolutely justify investing in tech to make it up to par. Even friggin Bandai Namco, which has a fraction of Nintendo's budgets, has been investing in new tech.
But hey, keep drinking that Kool-Aid.
This is the third Pokemon game I've ever played, and the only reason I was interested was because the gameplay is fun. Gamefreak can do whatever they want to do, and I can choose to buy it or not buy it like a normal, well-adjusted adult.
Bonfires Down
Member
It looks decent considering it's largely 1080p30. Xenoblade is certainly not.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
that is one ugly as fuck game.
but but artstyle
You Pokemon/Nintendo fans need to demand better. Its 2022 and this looks like a mobile game from 2009
but but artstyle
You Pokemon/Nintendo fans need to demand better. Its 2022 and this looks like a mobile game from 2009
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It can look pretty at times, but also atrocious too. They need to improve both their technical skills and art direction.
But hey at least they tried something new, which is fine considering they could have just made Sword & Shield 2 and still sell a ton of copies.
But hey at least they tried something new, which is fine considering they could have just made Sword & Shield 2 and still sell a ton of copies.
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Fbh
Member
Reminder that stuff like AC Black flag also runs on Switch, at dynamic 1080p in docked (dynamic 720p handheld), consistent 30fps (outside of cutscenes) and with some improvements over the Ps3/360 version, all while looking a gen ahead of this game
It's never been a hardware issue.
But props to gamefreak for at least moving away from the standard formula. Hopefully they continue to improve and polish this version of Pokemon until it someday turns into the type of game a franchise this big and with such high sales should be like.
Dude they could make Pokemon for next gen consoles and mid/high end PC's only and it would look exactly like this but running at higher res, 60fps and maybe with some increased draw distance.
Gamefreak/Nintendo know this will sell 10+ millions units at full price no matter what. Until that changes they won't increase the budget.
It's never been a hardware issue.
But props to gamefreak for at least moving away from the standard formula. Hopefully they continue to improve and polish this version of Pokemon until it someday turns into the type of game a franchise this big and with such high sales should be like.
Dude they could make Pokemon for next gen consoles and mid/high end PC's only and it would look exactly like this but running at higher res, 60fps and maybe with some increased draw distance.
Gamefreak/Nintendo know this will sell 10+ millions units at full price no matter what. Until that changes they won't increase the budget.
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Hugare
Member
Its not Alex who covered it.
And theres nothing clickbaity about its title. Its exactly the reason why you would be interested in the video.
FingerBang
Member
I like how it looks 
Coloress_Kafka
Member
It looks beautiful in handheld mode, im glad they went with native 720p instead of going lower and adding a bunch of unnecessary effects and detail.
People really need to get off GameFreak's dick and get on Nintendo's. The Switch is garbage off the shelf hardware, I don't blame GameFreak for not dedicating a bunch of resources trying to push it to the limit.
People really need to get off GameFreak's dick and get on Nintendo's. The Switch is garbage off the shelf hardware, I don't blame GameFreak for not dedicating a bunch of resources trying to push it to the limit.
GymWolf
Member
The game really deserving the crap it gets for being shitty looking was ever a question?? Of course they deserve the criticism lol...
There is no argument here, pokemon is nintendo biggest brand, the game should be the tlou2 of switch console in terms of graphic and production values, so yeah...
The title let you think that they have any sort of excuse or redeeming point, but it is not the case here dude.
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Hugare
Member
Dont agree with the bold at all
Maybe because English is not my native language, but I didnt interpret the video title as that at all
They are just not tearing it a new butthole right at the title, and that's fine.
Putting "HORRIBLE SHOWCASE" as the title would be much more clickbaity, imo.
Anyway, that's one ugly game, jesus
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I like how it looks
I actually dont hate it either lol. Like its not visually pleasing in terms of technical direction but I gave up that dream awhile ago.
GymWolf
Member
But everyone knows that this game is a horrible showcase, there is no curiosity in that...but asking to gamers if the game really deserve the criticism, that is gonna spark curiosity.
Well anyway, it is not important really
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Kenpachii
Member
It is the hardware, the game has great art and looks good in a emulator. All the poppins and other shit is because the hardware simple doesn't hold up and its easily visible when u see the switch footage or play it on the switch versus a emulator.
This game also has a lot more faster traveling then witcher 3 for example, in the witcher 3 u don't fly through the world at fast pace for example. The game needs to hold up then.
Also the game has a lot of detail into the models, and the way they interact. They really did a ace job on that front.
This game also has a lot more faster traveling then witcher 3 for example, in the witcher 3 u don't fly through the world at fast pace for example. The game needs to hold up then.
Also the game has a lot of detail into the models, and the way they interact. They really did a ace job on that front.
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FingerBang
Member
Yeah, it has its flaws, but I like the art direction in general. Only playing it in handheld mode though.
I actually dont hate it either lol. Like its not visually pleasing in terms of technical direction but I gave up that dream awhile ago.
Portugeezer
Member
I wasn't bothered too much (handheld mode native 720p looked nice and crisp), but that Monster Hunter comparison was eye opening.
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