RDR does not have even close to the scale, enviroment variety, intricate lanscapes, amount of enemies and characters on screen, has far more loading, etc. The only thing RDR has really is the dynamic lightning and that is the basis of your whole argument. The dynamic lighting.
Digital Foundry vs Xenoblade Chronicles X: "A Wii U Technological Master Class?"
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RDR does not have even close to the scale, enviroment variety, intricate lanscapes, amount of enemies and characters on screen, has far more loading, etc. The only thing RDR has really is the dynamic lightning and that is the basis of your whole argument. The dynamic lighting.
AmaterasuOkami076
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That's exactly how I feel about this. As a Brit who stands by Zenno, I've only heard Zeeno by those from the states. I've got nothing to back this up, but opting for a long vowel sound instead of a short vowel sound has struck me as a North American thing in general.
More on topic. Fuckin' hyped for this game!
ninjablade
Banned
On ps3 red dead looks bad imo, just compare the 360/ps3 version in pics, it has that blurry on screen that destroys image quality, kind if the samething going on in X, BASED ON THE DIRECT FEED PICS.
IronicSonic
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LMAO
LordOcidax
Member
That's how I read it too. I know the Wii U is weaker than the PS4 and XB1 but to suggest its a "last gen system" when the current consoles struggle with performance in almost every game (especially open world titles) is just silly. Either way it once again shows how lowering the resolution can still deliver a beautiful game that runs great. I'm all for eye-candy but not at the expense of a game that "targets 30fps" as this gen is going to be known for.
ninjablade
Banned
dude it has much better AA on 360 then X, it has tons of alpha textures everywhere, dynamic shadows, much better character models, and textures.
That you're talking to ninjablade.
I remember him beating this drum in the reveal thread, lol.
Why do we have ignore lists around here if every second post there is a quote from him? Really, he never admits he is wrong or blind or both, so the discussion is pointless with someone like him. What more proof do you want beside the fact that he is using as an example a game that is objectively less ambitious and worse in terms of the balance between graphics and performance?
Where do you see this discussion going forward? Stop quoting him. It's a pity for the nice write-up from dark to polute this thread with ninjablind.
Where do you see this discussion going forward? Stop quoting him. It's a pity for the nice write-up from dark to polute this thread with ninjablind.
The Wraith
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Is this game running at 720p or 1080p? I'm assuming 720p...
DownGrader
Member
The article have stated it's 720p, just like most of Wii U games (with the exception of Smash Bros and The Wind Waker HD).
potatohead
Member
Last-gen could've been so much more badass if the PS3/360 were as powerful as WiiU.
Would've been awesome.
Would've been awesome.
ninjablade
Banned
dude it's not EVEN arguable, read dead on 360 has better AA that's a fact.
Those are the comparable platforms. Always have been.
Good assumption lol. 1080p is really unusual on Wii U. Even Captain Toad runs at 720p, and in a game like this? Hell naw.
DeuceGamer
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All I know is the world they created looks amazingly beautiful and I love the scale. Monolith continues to impress me. Can't wait to get my hands on this and start playing.
StarStabbedMoon
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zeno bureido
FunkyDealer
Banned
Capitan Todd runs at 60FPS though, and has really polished visuals so it's understandable. I'm guessing bandwidth makes 1080p hard to do, and considering the processing power it's better to make something really pretty at 720p than something rough at 1080p.
I'd play a Casinoblade, gambling with Reyn would be so much fun.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
And X is a lot bigger yadayada. Point is very few games on Wii U run at 1080p.
Personally I would've liked Smash to be 720p if it upped the graphics in other areas.
Nah, I would sacrifice 8 player for upped the graphics in other areas tho.
*Gets ready to play roulette*
"Now it's Reyn time!"
*Wins*
"Let's not lose our heads, though."
I'm Swedish, that may be why
It feels weird that people pronounces it like Zee/Ze, but others probably thinks the same of me.
Don't waste your time. You'll get the same responses:
"lol, Nintendo"
"But but but RDR/GTA V"
"something something shadows..."
DownGrader
Member
I'm Swedish, that may be why
It feels weird that people pronounces it like Zee/Ze, but others probably thinks the same of me.
I'm Russian, and I understand you. "Ksilofon", "ksenofobia", "kseroks"... that's how X is pronounced in Russian, so it's not really surprising to see people referring to Xenoblade as "Ksenoblade".
Hovewer, in past years, most people in Russia have finally started to pronounce it with [z] sound.
LordOcidax
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O.O Dammnnn
CaptainLoveline
Member
I applaud Monolith Soft for their effort with the scale of the world, but this very ambition was honestly a bit too much for the Wii U, and it really shows the console's shortcomings with all the cutbacks they've had to make to hit 30FPS. It looks okay is how I'd describe it, mainly because the art style is an uncanny valley-level mess. With that said, looking forward to playing it regardless.
ninjablade
Banned
these actually look very nice, thanks. post some from a regular gameplay perspective showing off the more detailed part of the world.
Wowfunhappy
Member
I really appreciate the fact that objects "fade" into view instead of suddenly appearing in front of the player. It makes a big difference IMO. Sudden pops draw my attention, but fades I can ignore.
Prevolition
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Mew is a Danish band who sings "zeenophobia" in their song "She Spider".
The first two were taken in the middle of my gameplay. I like to fight with the camera up close in my skell sometimes and explore with the camera zoomed out pretty far.
I'm sure people will share some nice screens in the Wii U screenshot thread soon enough. Sadly I don't have anymore time since last week to play it, so I won't be making more screens anytime soon
lukeskymac
Member
I've never played any Xenoblade ever and I think it looks good for a PS3/360/Wii U game. But not punching above its weight.
CaptainLoveline
Member
The first two were taken in the middle of my gameplay. I like to fight with the camera up close in my skell sometimes and explore with the camera zoomed out pretty far.
I'm sure people will share some nice screens in the Wii U screenshot thread soon enough. Sadly I don't have anymore time since last week to play it, so I won't be making more screens anytime soon
You made me chuckle, good one xD
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
No. Apples and oranges. Zelda won't have the scope but it will be a looker and likely have way better gameplay. Open world Zelda isn't going to be open worldy like the games that define that genre. At least that's my hunch.
FunkyDealer
Banned
Really nice screenshots! I'm loving the colour-schemes.
I suspect you'd want higher res for when the camera zooms out, but I suppose that mostly happens with larger player count?
I think the things that really make this game special from a graphical point of view is the beautiful art and the great design of the open world. It's not the scale of it, but what is shown within that scale, the verticality, the diversity and the accessibility of this open world.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
And the driver sticking his head out the window yelling "watch where the fuck you are going, asscave!!!".
Having a seamless open world is something they can learn from X and in the Zelda presentation many times they said, "you see that mountain over there? We can go there" That was echoed everytime in X.