DIRT 5 | PlayStation 5 Special Look | Gameplay and Next-Gen Details
Stuart360
Member
I envy you.Lol, nope.
Really can't.
bitbydeath
Member
I do notice sub-30 though.
And in movies when they pan the camera (which I suppose is also sub-30 though)
Valued Gamer
Banned
Both consoles will stream enough data in to the RAM. On top of this we have much better efficiencies such as SFS and whatever Sony have in this department.
All the pop in and LOD we have seen on both XSX and PS5 is due to GPU and RAM, not the SSD speeds.
Valued Gamer
Banned
Same. I would rather the extra polish than the extra frames.
Stuart360
Member
Dont get me wrong, i can play at 30fps, if its locked with good framepacing, but when you see a side by side video like that, 30fps just looks bad.
supernova8
Banned
I also got very strong "eh" vibes from the start too.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
no that video is showing the 30 fps mode against the XsX standard 60. there is a 60 fps mode on both PS4 PRO and XoX and the differences ar ethings like lower quality shadows and less trackside detail .
Stuart360
Member
Ah right, i didnt realize there were 2 modes on current gen. Its not a very 'fair' video then really, they should of done the 60fps mode. It would of been nice to see actually, see what extra detail the next gen version has over current gen.
Senua
Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
its already fixed. it was bad on last gen consoles but the new patch fixed it completely as well as the frame rate issues at the start of the races.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is what I mean.
It won't let me select higher than 720p, where's other videos I've watched today will. Not sure why it's happening.
4k60 on my phone
Hawk269
Member
Did that fix already get deployed? I heard it was still coming. Glad that it is fixed though because from the footage it was really bad.
bitbydeath
Member
Lol, nah my eyesight is excellent. No problem reading text from the other side of a large room nor reading up close. I can just see 30FPS perfectly too.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Senua
Member
30fps to 60fps is such a huge difference, especially in racing games. DOUBLE the fluidity and apparently people can't even notice, nuts i tells ye!
bitbydeath
Member
Senua
Member
You'll notice the input latency, you can't escape!I'm not complaining.
Kagero
Member
Still looks like dirt.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah I know what you're talking about, and it's not funny to feel ABS in our wet season as you might get fucked.
That's why I pay for full insurance + offroad insurance. If I feel the slightest danger, would simply jump off the car.
Yooooo, them PS5 graphics is dope!
I guess they cut corners with the N64 foggy draw distance however.
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Kagero
Member
I actually agree with you. When I first saw the video I was analyzing the graphics and lighting. It wasn't until I started looking for frame rate was when I noticed the difference. Karen and little Bobby which account for probably 80% of console sales certainly won't notice it.Lol, nope.
Really can't.
alabtrosMyster
Member
I had to look pretty hard, but on the last screen where they are on the starting line you can see the lower quality texture on the first flag on the right side on the PRO side, same for the advert on the wall on the right side... not very convincing if you are trying to sell an upgrade.
Senua
Member
That hill looks pretty silent bro
Stuart360
Member
Actually there are a few things you can notice after watching a couple of times, like the higher geomatry of the hillside on the left at 1:17, and the cliff on the left at 1:23. But yeah nothing huge, but they should of used the 60fps mode on the Pro, not the 'quality' mode. Next gen's normal mode is matching, and slightly exceeding, the quality mode on the Pro, and at double the framerate.
FlyyGOD
Member
Framerate is all about responsiveness and feel and animations not looks. Even it can make a game look better by smoothness.
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bitbydeath
Member
In online games sure but not in 30FPS games unless coded badly.
bitbydeath
Member
There are dozens of us!
bitbydeath
Member
Doesn't Naughty Dog have some of the best animations around and they're primarily 30FPS?
drotahorror
Member
made an OT
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DIRT 5 |OT| DirtStormClub
Developer: Codemasters (and ex-Evolution Studio devs) Publisher: Codemasters Platforms: Current/Next Gen and PC About the game: DIRT 5 is the boldest off-road racing experience created by Codemasters. Blaze a trail on routes across the world, covering gravel, ice, snow and sand, with a...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bruh!
OutRun88
Member
Have you played a racing game at 120Hz?
OutRun88
Member
Use chrome.This is what I mean.
It won't let me select higher than 720p, where's other videos I've watched today will. Not sure why it's happening.
Truespeed
Member
Yeah I know what you're talking about, and it's not funny to feel ABS in our wet season as you might get fucked.
That's why I pay for full insurance + offroad insurance. If I feel the slightest danger, would simply jump off the car.
For a second there I thought that was a screenshot.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Well you guys need to go out more, too much artificial reality is no good.
Speaking of fog, it can get extremely intense here exactly like Silent Hill because most of these are actually monsoon low clouds:
Fly it like 100-500m altitude from this spot and you get something like this, a sea of clouds:
Would love if Naughty Dog would consider a fantasy story here.
rnlval
Member
Tempest Engine is outside of the GPU, but it's also based on AMD's CU tech with compute power comparable to the entire PS4/PS4 pro's CPU.If it's implemented, it's HRTF-based, it's a massive step over 7.1 surround. Dolby Atmos on PC has HRTF-based 3D audio version and 7.1 version, but uses 32 sources max vs hundreds of sources on The Tempest 3D as Mark Cerny stated. It should work with any good 2.0 stereo, no need for 7.1 channel.
It must be done on a GPU level like the Tempest that's GPU-based compute unit. Not too long and we'll experience it by ourselves.
For the audiophiles out there, it's worth knowing that Bluepoint and Sony have "remade thousands of thousands of new sound effects to add into" levels. Then using 3D audio on PS5 brought that to life. Moore said you'll be able to hear arrows fly past your head creatures crawl out of the slime in the Valley of Defilement.
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AMD's TrueAudio Next runs on Polaris/Vega GCN.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yes. I think The tempest is synced with the main GPU clock speeds, and might do sound ray tracing internally or via the intersection engines inside the main GPU, nothing clear but this graph suggests that:
But convolution reverb is calculated within the tempest as Cerny said as one of the many other calculations that The Tempest would handle.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
If it's not a compatible wireless headset, you can use nearly any headset via DualSense controller, which already has RealTek audio chip onboard.
Well, it's optional, but you can adjust it or turn it off. Competitive online gamers on PC usually have settings on low so they have the edge without fog or dust blocking them like on ultra. But they don't represent the whole gaming community.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Man, this is something strange to me. But I personally would notice even 120fps or probably more. Not saying that I can't enjoy 30fps like some are treating it like some kind of blasphemy. If I have better graphics at 30fps, I always go for 30fps unless it's unstable 30fps or a shooter.
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rnlval
Member
Yes. I think The tempest is synced with the main GPU clock speeds, and might do sound ray tracing internally or via the intersection engines inside the main GPU, nothing clear but this graph suggests that:
But convolution reverb is calculated within the tempest as Cerny said as one of the many other calculations that The Tempest would handle.
TrueAudio Next
AMD TrueAudio Next is a software development kit for GPU accelerated and multi-core high-performance audio signal processing.
gpuopen.com
AMD TrueAudio - Wikipedia
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
The TAN library may be used in conjunction with Radeon Rays as foundational accelerated algorithms for a complete physics-based audio solutionTrueAudio Next
AMD TrueAudio Next is a software development kit for GPU accelerated and multi-core high-performance audio signal processing.
It also clarified that TrueAudio Next uses the GPU's ray-casting technology to do the audio computation, and can also reserve GCN compute units for lower latencyAMD TrueAudio - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Thanks for the details!
Bo_Hazem
Banned
30fps does a good job in hiding the artificiality of games. 60fps+ exposes them as gamey.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Xperia 1 II
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I had one of these in silver in the 90's
Was getting that one until Sony showed Sony a7S III camera! I'll keep an eye for Xperia 5 II thoughBoth are beasts! Been a Sony phone user since 2005.
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