Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten |OT| - Defend The Prinnies, Define Your Netherworld.
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Android18a
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Any impressions on the game yet? I know its early, but I was wondering about how people felt about the new systems so far.
Owensboro said:
Keep in mind, most of what I said boils down to "You don't have to do it." If you'd rather use Reincarnating, Item Leveling, and so-on and so-forth throughout the main game, by all means do it. It's just one of those things that you'll spend more time trying to utilize it earlier but with a smaller reward than if you had just put it off.
I will note, though, that any early game reincarnating should basically wait for the Mana to do it at Genius level. The losses you sustain from the other forms is just so not worth it. Exceptions being if it's some throwaway character just to unlock higher tiers or something.
Dedication Through Light said:
Doesn't look like there's one yet; I can't imagine the Item Perfecting being _that_ different though and Item Duping is still around, though not as reliable as D3s. If nothing has surfaced in the near future, I can try to get something out I guess?
BobTheFork
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I feel like I made huge mistakes with reincarnation. Hopefully I won't stat kill my strong characters this time. I made it in the end but I had to put in extra effort to make up for it.
BobTheFork said:
Yeah, the most general advice I can give on that is basically just try not to ever deal with negative stat penalties on character creation/reincarnating. If you can, Genius-level only. It's never truly permanent, sure, but it can be a hassle that you'd rather not deal with.
As far as I know, the stat gain formula has yet to really change so every level up means you gain some percentage (close to half; ~46% on average) of your naked Level 1 stats. So if you remove some points in a stat, those few points can snowball into a pretty big loss down the road.
Though, naked stats kind of get overshadowed by equipment eventually so it almost becomes a non-issue. But, early-to-mid game where you may have better naked stats than what equipment gives, it can be quite relevant.
sotodefonk
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Dammit I registered for NIS newsletter, and I didnt receive any info about when the preorder started :S I just preorder it at nis store.
Nice OT I hope I get the game soon to start playing
Nice OT I hope I get the game soon to start playing
Loto said:
yeah, because by then you have way more than the required mana. I think genius level was 5000 mana (depending on the class and tier) and 5000 mana is not easy early in the game. That's what he ment.
edit: thx nearly missed the release. Ordered mine on videogames plus and is already shipped.
Wondering if I should pick up Fenrich now or wait until more pop up.Dedication Through Light
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Oh yes, I love those easy trophies...
that one for just finishing the opening anime.
Negator said:
It was the first 5 (+25%), though I don't remember if it was from reincarnation in general or if it was from a Genius-level reincarnation. This bonus was separate from the normal +100% Aptitude cap via Class World. I'm not sure on the Disgaea 4 mechanic yet (T.T no copy yet) but I imagine it's similar still, though a higher cap (300%).
Also, about the Magichange Weapons (for Disgaea 3, anyway), I forgot there's some shenanigans to be done with Puppy Paw Stick killing MCW-wielding enemies to get a weapon with obscene stats in the Land of Carnage. Kind of a post-game only thing, sure, but there's that. They were better than Level 200 R40 Weapons but had the whole issue with reverting when a stage was finished with it unequipped :/
Dunno if the same will be the case in Disgaea 4 with the Level 300 equipment. They did add more to Magichange with the Giant Monsters, though, to increase AoE sizes and such.
Dedication Through Light
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I miss Extreme Outlaw Overlord playing in the base area. The song for D4, it seems rather toned down and not catchy. I like Valtorez a bit more than Adell thus far, even if he sounds like Excalibur from Soul Eater.
TheChillyAcademic
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Volcynika said:
RETRIBUTION!!
At least it looks that way from the translated wiki.Dedication Through Light
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Wow I hope there isnt a bad ending for killing an ally teammate. I totally dozed for a moment and realized I killed one of my prinny dudes.
The team up attacks look amazing.
It netted me a trophy though
The team up attacks look amazing.
Just snagged a copy of the guide. First impression: this thing is fucking tiny. I'm pretty sure the last few Brady guides I've bought were all 300+ pages, this one's just over 190.
At a glance it seems to have the basics covered (story mission maps, character class info, weapon/armor/item lists, trophy list!, etc). I'm not sure how much it will be helpful in the post game though.
At a glance it seems to have the basics covered (story mission maps, character class info, weapon/armor/item lists, trophy list!, etc). I'm not sure how much it will be helpful in the post game though.
Dedication Through Light said:
Doesn't look like that affects any of the endings
cj_iwakura
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TheExodu5 said:
I expected a non-DJ Disgaea guide being a waste of time. Sad, really.
PataHikari
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Hey, is there something like the Robber Shop clubs in this game? That made it so easy to give Mana to my healer.
So, map creation is made available at episode 4. Im not sure what the extent of the changes are from the Japanese to english version. I dont think I was earning any experience from the battle I fought. I won CP. Im not sure what CP is for except for buying more items to build battle stages with.
Kinda pointless but fun, it lets you set a... description of sorts for the level from a huge list of somewhat random phrases. Other good news was that the editor is actually pretty easy to use. I was restricted to using my party as enemies though, and you have to be able to beat your own map before it allows you to upload it. Im still confused to the purpose of the thing at all if you cant exploit it. Maybe Im missing something.... The manual doesnt explain it very well. =/
Kinda pointless but fun, it lets you set a... description of sorts for the level from a huge list of somewhat random phrases. Other good news was that the editor is actually pretty easy to use. I was restricted to using my party as enemies though, and you have to be able to beat your own map before it allows you to upload it. Im still confused to the purpose of the thing at all if you cant exploit it. Maybe Im missing something.... The manual doesnt explain it very well. =/
Dedication Through Light
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Im surprised they retained the Rosen Queen Co music for the shops. I hope this means Modern Times from Disgaea 3 returns.
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Wow finished episode 1 after four hours. In my opinion the slowest start to a Disgaea however, Axel and Emizel made it a blast.
When does Axel become recruitable?
Just got it! Holy shit am I excited. The artbook could be better, and the US VA is kind of shitty, in comparison to other Disgaeas, but damn if I don't love the new HD look. It's what I always envisioned Disgaea to look like; and those specials. Damn son.
I'm still on chapter 1 and switched over to JPN VA (Which is alot better) but I'm just so excited I wanted to save the rest for tonight. Damn, if this isn't an awesome day. Especially when I though NISA botched my order.
I'm still on chapter 1 and switched over to JPN VA (Which is alot better) but I'm just so excited I wanted to save the rest for tonight. Damn, if this isn't an awesome day. Especially when I though NISA botched my order.
If anyone didn't get the figure set because they thought it was too pricey... The figurines are on sale at AmiAmi for essentially 30 bucks! Although shipping will probably add another 10 or so.
always loved the series. I need to jump back into the PSP releases also
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