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Dishonored |OT| The belle of the ball

GorillaJu

Member
I'm having a hard time deciding whether to kill
Daud
or not. Decisions, decisions.

What should I do?

The Heart's giving me nothing. No new information which is weird

Edit: oh never mind! Heart's got plenty to say.

I didn't kill him because
I felt like since my character was a good guy and he's a similar "tool" to Daud, Daud would also deserve a chance.
 

vazel

Banned
I didn't kill him because
I felt like since my character was a good guy and he's a similar "tool" to Daud, Daud would also deserve a chance.
If you sit back and listen as he's recording his diary audiograph he expresses remorse at the things he set in motion.
Ehh...I uhh...ummmm. Yeah
Confirmed for bad taste.
I wonder if the people that dislike Dishonored were ever exposed to classic PC games or if they're the sort of people that think FFVII and CoD are the height of gaming. I can see how people that have historically been console only would expect a more guided experience from games. Dishonored is one game that rewards a player's creativity and initiative.
 

Duffyside

Banned
To get the trophy for using all nonlethal means, do I have to replay the whole game, or is Arkane smart enough to let me now go to Mission Select, do that one mission again, and get the trophy?

I think I can confirm you have to replay the whole game. I'm very confident the only mission I didn't go nonlethal was the first, and I then went and replayed it via Mission Select, and did not get the trophy.

... Booo.
 
Anyone on the PC version know how to fix the crash that happens when you try to exit Galvani's office during the golden cat mission? This is getting ridiculous.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
You guys should check out Minerva's Den if you haven't. DLC done right.

I fucking bought this fucking DLC on fucking Windows Live Store and it didn't fucking work until I hacked the fucking system and made it properly install on my fucking account to which I couldn't access because fucking Windows Live doesn't let me for some obscure fucking reason.

fuck Microsoft, fuck Take Two, fuck everone who didn't give a fuck setting up fucking Windows Store and this DLC in particular.

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Sanctuary

Member
I wonder if the people that dislike Dishonored were ever exposed to classic PC games or if they're the sort of people that think FFVII and CoD are the height of gaming. I can see how people that have historically been console only would expect a more guided experience from games. Dishonored is one game that rewards a player's creativity and initiative.

I can't speak for anyone else, but Thief, Tenchu, Deus Ex as well as the first three Splinter Cell games were some of my favorite games when they were released. I just can't get into this game at all. Playing on normal is sleep inducing, and playing on Hard or Very Hard seems entirely too random. There's no middleground. The game encourages stealth gameplay, yet that too is boring compared to the games that came before it if you're not liberally blinking everywhere. The game also punishes you for actually using any of the interesting powers--which already punish you by being so cost-prohibitive. I also shut off the objective markers, so it has nothing at all to do with needing to be ushered anywhere.
 
This isn't meant to be a smart ass comment but after playing the very first MGS and trying to get through the whole game with no alerts I realized the best way to play any game is on the hardest difficultly. I haven't played a game since on anything but that and I think I get more satisfaction out of it. Even then Very Hard wasn't all that difficult. I can't imagine what a breeze normal is.
 
Alright, still got Dishonored steam for $42.
I was holding it for someone but they bailed out.


PM me.

Oh, and thanks a lot to all of those who helped me with my Dishonored PC problem.
Glad we have Gaffers who don't assume I'm some weird rip off artist.
 

DocSeuss

Member
I don't know how people don't fucking love this game. I haven't been blown away by a game since my first playthrough of System Shock 2 in 2008. That said, hearing how people are abusing Blink makes me think that a lot of people are just ruining it for themselves.

So I'm just going to keep messing around, soaking up the atmosphere, playing whatever strikes my whimsy from moment to moment, reading all the lore, and solving all the puzzles of how to get from X to Y while killing or rendering Z useless, and I'm going to keep having fun. You optimalist players keep on ruining the fun for yourselves, I guess.

You can beat System Shock 2 on the hardest difficulties by smacking things around with an upgraded wrench for basically the whole game; it in fact becomes the most efficient way to play through it, and by the time the wrench starts to be less powerful in late game, you have access to the juggernaut that is the assault rifle. Like Blink-only runs here, wrench-only runs in SS2 are a common thing as both are powerful enough to rely on getting through the game with.

Rigid effectiveness should matter only up to a point. In all of these 'emergent'-style games, it becomes largely up to you to mix things up and create your own fun; there is always going to be an optimal way to play through it if all you care about is beating the game. I view Blink as a synergistic tool to create combinations with the other abilities you have at your disposal, and I experiment with play styles and combat encounters. That is the draw of these games to me.

I did not know you could do that in System Shock 2, and I have been better off for it. So much of the game's appeal comes from the moments of manic tension where you're scrambling for ammo while listening to enemies hunt you down.

I can't imagine playing in a min-max way that rigidly adheres to some method of ideal game completion. The very concept is repulsive to me.
 

Riposte

Member
I wonder if the people that dislike Dishonored were ever exposed to classic PC games or if they're the sort of people that think FFVII and CoD are the height of gaming. I can see how people that have historically been console only would expect a more guided experience from games. Dishonored is one game that rewards a player's creativity and initiative.

I could just as easily wonder the opposite, if I had a chip on my shoulder. Dishonored is unimpressive to me partly because the games it takes inspiration from, although aged now, have better game design.

Your last sentence amuses me a bit. You could also say Dishonored rewards a player's lack of creativity just as much or more. Maybe that's the problem.
 
Your last sentence amuses me a bit. You could also say Dishonored rewards a player's lack of creativity just as much or more. Maybe that's the problem.

But how so? Blink itself is a way to make the player look around and explore the areas. Windblast is damn effective, and Bend Time is simply amazing. Didn't really care for Possession and never tried the rats one, but those three power alone, along with the tools you already have, really reward players's creativity.
 

Carbonox

Member
But how so? Blink itself is a way to make the player look around and explore the areas. Windblast is damn effective, and Bend Time is simply amazing. Didn't really care for Possession and never tried the rats one, but those three power alone, along with the tools you already have, really reward players's creativity.

There is an achievement in the game that asks you to cause 5 unintentional enemy suicides. Requires Possession II and while there are easy/cheap ways to do this, there are otherwise incredibly fun ways to cause suicides and have the enemy colleagues kill the guy you're possessing (another trophy relates to this). Trust me, Possession is the tits.
 

glaurung

Member
Right during the first mission:

How do you get to take down/eliminate the two thugs guarding the planked doorway where they are keeping the shopkeep? I am going for a non-lethal, no detection approach and I feel that I simply cannot get both of them knocked out before the other notices me.

I suppose stopping time and hitting both with sleep darts at the same time would give this result, but I don't have stop time yet.

Is there a secret way?
 

GorillaJu

Member
Right during the first mission:

How do you get to take down/eliminate the two thugs guarding the planked doorway where they are keeping the shopkeep? I am going for a non-lethal, no detection approach and I feel that I simply cannot get both of them knocked out before the other notices me.

I suppose stopping time and hitting both with sleep darts at the same time would give this result, but I don't have stop time yet.

Is there a secret way?

I think I threw a glass bottle to distract their attention, jumped behind and choked one, dragging him away from the other guy to hide him from view, then the second guy was free to toy with as I please.
 

glaurung

Member
I think I threw a glass bottle to distract their attention, jumped behind and choked one, dragging him away from the other guy to hide him from view, then the second guy was free to toy with as I please.
Hmm. A simple distraction, sounds plausible.

I haven't done distractions a lot since I am on the very highest difficulty setting. Screwing things up does not mean escaping and licking wounds, it means dying.
 
why do you have a cd key site in your profile?

might want to look at this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451542

I took down the site. But the rule talks about Russian and Asian key resellers, and I would not peddle that to GAF users. That's violating Steam's TOS and will likely get me ban on GAF and their account banned.

EU or NA or the highway. That and it's basically me buying one box of games for a little above wholesale from Gameplay mom and pop store in Long Beach. I have taken pictures for Gaffers.

If only more games were this fucking polished. Loving it.

Are you sure you're playing the same game as us?
 

iNvid02

Member
I took down the site. But the rule talks about Russian and Asian key resellers, and I would not peddle that to GAF users. That's violating Steam's TOS and will likely get me ban on GAF and their account banned.

EU or NA or the highway. That and it's basically me buying one box of games for a little above wholesale from Gameplay mom and pop store in Long Beach. I have taken pictures for Gaffers.

ok then
 

Enco

Member
The last Thief game came out almost 8 years ago and Deus Ex almost 12. That makes DX:HR the only one remotely close and even then they are very different games.
This.

You named 3 games spanning roughly 10 years. How can anyone say Dishonored lacks ambition? Even if you're not a fan of the game.
 

Pezking

Member
Right during the first mission:

How do you get to take down/eliminate the two thugs guarding the planked doorway where they are keeping the shopkeep? I am going for a non-lethal, no detection approach and I feel that I simply cannot get both of them knocked out before the other notices me.

I suppose stopping time and hitting both with sleep darts at the same time would give this result, but I don't have stop time yet.

Is there a secret way?

I started playing the game yesterday, and I used two sleep darts from above in that scene. Of course, the second thug noticed me doing that, but fell asleep before reaching me. Does that count as a detection?
 

glaurung

Member
Nah, I like the game.

He just said it was polished, I and other people in this thread experience quite a few bugs.
Especially side quest ones.
Oh, OK. I have encountered very few glitches. There have been some twitching bodies here and there and a rat ran through a wall once. Nothing game-breaking so far.

I started playing the game yesterday, and I used two sleep darts from above in that scene. Of course, the second thug noticed me doing that, but fell asleep before reaching me. Does that count as a detection?
I think so, yes.
 

Kevtones

Member
Nah, I like the game.

He just said it was polished, I and other people in this thread experience quite a few bugs.
Especially side quest ones.

Gameplay mechanics are sound as fuck. Only complaint might be the imprecision with climbing - otherwise, game plays beautifully. Guess I needed to specify the polish comment.

Also, what/where is there a good mom/pop store in Long Beach? There's one on Spring and Los Diagonal i think?
 
Gameplay mechanics are sound as fuck. Only complaint might be the imprecision with climbing - otherwise, game plays beautifully. Guess I needed to specify the polish comment.

Also, what/where is there a good mom/pop store in Long Beach? There's one on Spring and Los Diagonal i think?

That's the one I'm talking about. It's called GAMEPLAY, and they pretty much take anything and sell anything. Cash value for things are pretty good here too, and the pre-orders are only $1.

And yeah, if you're talking about powers like Blink, Possession, and so on this game makes them fun as heck. This is where Dishonored beats Bioshock. The power has a kind of weight to them, and they feel useful.
 

ecierif

Member
- At the end of the first level when you
blow up the door to escape from prison
that alert doesn't count against you does it?
I don't think the alarm going off counts (I think alarms can be raised and you will still get Ghost as long as no guards; I think alerts only refers to when you're seen and the lines around their heads flash red and they begin chasing you). However, I think there may be a couple of guards standing outside of the door (maybe across the rising bridge)
after you blow it up
. Did you quickly run under the bridge and jump into the water?

I wish the game featured a stats screen that you could see at any time. There were several times when I thought I may have triggered an alert but I could not confirm it until completing the mission. That was one of those times.
 

GlamFM

Banned
3rd mission was so bad that I almost stopped playing.

Glad I didn´t because mission 4 feels great again.

Good game overall, just not as awesome as I thought it would be after playing the first 2 hours or so.
 

kamorra

Fuck Cancer
There is a part in the very first mission where as soon as the music starts playing my PS3 will lock up. I managed to find another way to tackle this part but I hope that this was the last hard reset I had to do. ;(
 
Do they use the song in the game? Would be disappointing if not.

But thanks a lot for the link! Didn't know they released the full version.

I don't think they did, which is a real waste. It's whistled by guards and the lyrics are referenced in some logs, but I never heard this particular version in game.

There is a free MP3 download on the Bethesda blog.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
It's a great feature to have in the game IMO, have the player search out the backstory etc
It's one concept I really wouldn't mind being aped by lots of future games.

Imagine the same sort of "dialogue-tree boss fights" as in DX: HR, except you have a certain item on you that lets you
read your target's mind
beforehand.

Bonus points if it could give you different, more secretive/buried info if you used it from a hidden position before they notice you.
 

Hindle

Banned
I've hardly used any of the other powers yet, wind blast or posess a human. I'm going to do a playthrough specialising in them I think. People who say this is short really don't get what it's about
 
I don't think the alarm going off counts (I think alarms can be raised and you will still get Ghost as long as no guards; I think alerts only refers to when you're seen and the lines around their heads flash red and they begin chasing you). However, I think there may be a couple of guards standing outside of the door (maybe across the rising bridge)
after you blow it up
. Did you quickly run under the bridge and jump into the water?

I wish the game featured a stats screen that you could see at any time. There were several times when I thought I may have triggered an alert but I could not confirm it until completing the mission. That was one of those times.

Yeah I just start booking it the second the explosion goes off but I must be messing something up. Maybe I should stay in stealth crouch when I go out.

I like stabbing a guy so he falls over a ledge, freezing time and putting a spring razor on him so that when he lands he kills the guy below me.

And people don't like this game because....
 
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