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DmC |OT| No, F*ck You!

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Sargerus

Banned
Dahbomb said:
I want Vergil to act like this pic:

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Stone cold bad ass. None of this "I loved you" bull shit.
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Where does this pic comes from?
 
Acquiescence

Acquiescence

Member
Got the game today, played through the first 3 missions on Nephilim and had an absolute blast. Already far far more enjoyable than all of my time spent with the first game all those years back (my only exposure to the series until now). Just need to get the plat for Dishonored out of the way and I'll dive back in for some full-time demon slaying.

That first mission was so Alice: Madness Returns.
 
C

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Dahbomb said:
OG Vergil stabbed Dante in the stomach first with his sword, then with Dante's own sword to keep him down like a dog. And not a single fuck was given.
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IT'S NOT THE SAME VERGIL. IT'S NOT THE SAME CONTENT.

I appreciate the attempt at making Vergil more than the stock evil twin brother even though it wasn't executed as well it should have been.
 
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Chamber

love on your sleeve
Dahbomb said:
You can make Vergil bad ass without copying the source material. Like for example I liked the rendition of Mundus, it was different yet he was still a bad ass and someone you loved to hate.
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He wasn't supposed to be badass though, that's Dante's shtick. They never even tried to present him that way so I have to imagine badass Vergil was never the intention.
 
P

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
dan2026 said:
I admire your confidence.
I'm not sure I'd dare play that mode without the threat of hurling my controller.
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Heaven or Hell is always pretty easy. Hell or Hell might be a different story, but I didn't have any issue in 4, though that was after DMD and the enemies were a difficulty below that IIRC. Not sure how it is here.
 
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Luminous_Reaver

Neo Member
Dragonzord said:
Also the characters in Enslaved are terrible. I'm sorry to tell you this, but if you think Trip is anything other than a disgusting, selfish human being, you might have some psychological problems.
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If you think disgusting, selfish human beings aren't good characters in a literary sense you ought to broaden your horizons.
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
Never understand the obsession with main character having to be "likable". Such a narrow box to put stories in. As long as they're interesting or compelling, mission accomplished.
 
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ezekial45

Banned
ViewtifulJC said:
Never understand the obsession with main character having to be "likable". Such a narrow box to put stories in. As long as they're interesting or compelling, mission accomplished.
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Yeah, exactly. Walter White from Breaking Bad is one of the most morally reprehensible characters on TV and is in no way likeable (now, anyway), but I still love the character because he's so interesting.
 
D

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
ViewtifulJC said:
Never understand the obsession with main character having to be "likable". Such a narrow box to put stories in. As long as they're interesting or compelling, mission accomplished.
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They have to be likable for what is essentially an escort, or they have to be important enough that they know you need them. Trip is neither. I'm supposed to like a character who forced someone into bondage under threat of death?
 
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Dahbomb

Member
Griffith is one of my favorite characters of all time but he is morally reprehensible. I want to strangle his pretty face myself. Love to hate him.
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
Dragonzord said:
I'm supposed to like a character who forced someone into bondage under threat of death?
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It's not unheard of. People who do crappy things are still people like us, and a good writer can show it's not all black-and-white. Trip doesn't enslave Monkey out of malice or hatred, she does it out of fear and survival. Is that fucked-up? Yeah, but it comes from a basic human need that's relatable or at least understandable. Over the course of the game the antagonistic relationship mellows out, builds and grows with peaks and valleys, and it becomes more a partnership. It got to the point that I pushed myself through the mediocre gameplay just to see out the adventure, I was invested in these characters(til that SHITTY ending). That's why I'm actually kinda surprised DmC's narrative ended up so weak. Nobody in this game gives the same level of performance Andy Serkis and Lindsey Shaw, both vocally and mo-cap-wise.
 
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Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
ViewtifulJC said:
It's not unheard of. People who do crappy things are still people like us, and a good writer can show it's not all black-and-white. Trip doesn't enslave Monkey out of malice or hatred, she does it out of fear and survival. Is that fucked-up? Yeah, but it comes from a basic human need that's relatable or at least understandable. Over the course of the game the antagonistic relationship mellows out, builds and grows with peaks and valleys, and it becomes more a partnership. It got to the point that I pushed myself through the mediocre gameplay just to see out the adventure, I was invested in these characters(til that SHITTY ending). That's why I'm actually kinda surprised DmC's narrative ended up so weak. Nobody in this game gives the same level of performance Andy Serkis and Lindsey Shaw, both vocally and mo-cap-wise.
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This honestly has to be my biggest suprise to come out of DmC. That when all is said and done people are pretty ok with the combat but universally kind of think that NT dropped the ball on the story and performance capture. Seriously... I feel like i'm on crazy pills.
 
D

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I thought Dante's performance capture was fine. Some of the facial expressions are real good.

But everyone else was blech, especially Vergil and Mundus.
 
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Mokudin

Neo Member
ViewtifulJC said:
It's not unheard of. People who do crappy things are still people like us, and a good writer can show it's not all black-and-white. Trip doesn't enslave Monkey out of malice or hatred, she does it out of fear and survival. Is that fucked-up? Yeah, but it comes from a basic human need that's relatable or at least understandable. Over the course of the game the antagonistic relationship mellows out, builds and grows with peaks and valleys, and it becomes more a partnership. It got to the point that I pushed myself through the mediocre gameplay just to see out the adventure, I was invested in these characters(til that SHITTY ending). That's why I'm actually kinda surprised DmC's narrative ended up so weak. Nobody in this game gives the same level of performance Andy Serkis and Lindsey Shaw, both vocally and mo-cap-wise.
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Considering they were brought in for their story telling it is rather odd they couldn't write a better story than the regular DMC team.
 
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jett

D-Member
Asked them if Vergil would be playable on Bloody Palace or on Dante's campaign.

Since the guy isn't really from NT I doubt he would know much to be honest.
 
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Dahbomb

Member
jett said:
Asked them if Vergil would be playable on Bloody Palace or on Dante's campaign.

Since the guy isn't really at NT I doubt he would know much to be honest.
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Gregaman already confirmed that Vergil is NOT playable in Bloody Palace.

That would make sense because he can't really do anything about the Demon/Angel weapons anyway.
 
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ezekial45

Banned
jett said:
Asked them if Vergil would be playable on Bloody Palace or on Dante's campaign.

Since the guy isn't really from NT I doubt he would know much to be honest.
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He's a producer on the game, he of all people would know.

FUCK, the stream is running at 30fps.

:(
 
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jett

D-Member
Dahbomb said:
Gregaman already confirmed that Vergil is NOT playable in Bloody Palace.

That would make sense because he can't really do anything about the Demon/Angel weapons anyway.
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I hadn't thought about that, I guess you're right...or I guess you could make it so Vergil's weapons affect all colored enemies the same. :p

ezekial45 said:
He's a producer on the game, he of all people would know.

FUCK, the stream is running at 30fps.

:(
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Yeah on the stream the game looks exactly the same as on the consoles. :p I guess they haven't really messed with the lighting quality or assets much if at all.
 
K

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
jett said:
I hadn't thought about that, I guess you're right...or I guess you could make it so Vergil's weapons affect all colored enemies the same. :p
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This is assuming that there is no way of tweaking what enemy combinations appear for Vergil in BP or that Vergil possesses no alternate weapons to allow for attacking colored enemies.
 
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Stephen_drewz

Member
Do I need to beat the previous games to play this? The only one I own is DMC4 but I don't think I will get the time before this comes out for PC.

Im a sucker for new release games.
 
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