Can you use the touchpad without any extra drivers? All the games I've played that support it natively don't seem to use that.
Kinda unrelated to either really, good to see people with agenda's already proclaiming both companies to be at fault though![]()
i already had the double input problem on windows 8.1 with ds4windows so i swapped to inputmapper
aw damnit looks like that's affected too :'(
If it supported Xinput it would already work with all the same games the Xbox controllers work with. Developers could then put in an option to switch between Playstation and Xbox buttons.They also don't because it's not necessary. If most developers aren't supporting it as a dinput device, no way would it pick up more momentum under another api.
Not really, at least not based on my experience. Only one of my games i tried without additional software works natively and that is Assassins Creed Unity, even with Playstation icons. On the other hand, The Crew didn't, Project CARS didn't. Though, these are my newest examples, i suppose most older games have no native support as well, because every other game from my libary i tried worked only with DS4Windows or a different support software.Don't most games and game engines support directinput? Why is that DS4Windows necessary?
Is DS4Windows better than InputMapper?
Symmetric sticks.
Better D-Pad.
Touchpad can be used for some useful macros.
I didn't know that, never had any reason to use anything other than SCP.It should work as well/bad as DS4Windows/Inputmapper, since all three of them are using SCP as a backbone
That still leaves my question of why not simply intercept/replace DINPUT.dllThe option of hiding a controller was using some system routine that got removed in a recent Win10 build. By the looks of things, it doesn't look like it will be coming back to RTM.
So then it is entirely down to preference.
Are there any benefits to using DS4 on PC over Xbox One Controller? Or is it just purely down to preference.
It most certainly does, unless you mean it's not out yet.And it doesn't hurt that the dongle doesn't exist yet.
Preference and not needing some silly proprietary dongle.
And it doesn't hurt that the dongle doesn't exist yet.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only issue is using the "hide ds4" option? When you need that option, the game can support the ds4 natively so you wouldn't even need ds4windows running. I might be confused here though..
Really? That's so fucking inexcusable.
I've been on Windows 10 for months and just played through all of The Talos Principle using my DS4 and InputMapper. I didn't have any problems - I have the controller wired, if that makes a difference.
That sucks if some people are having a problem, but there must be a way around it if I'm not having any difficulties, right?
I didn't know that, never had any reason to use anything other than SCP.
That still leaves my question of why not simply intercept/replace DINPUT.dll
The controller registers in Dark Souls 1 prepare to die edition, but none of the buttons are correctly mapped nor will the camera stop spinning (I also have to replug the controller once the game starts for the controller to work in-game). This is kind of frustrating.
Uh, no it's not irrelevant. I would still like to now which is better, regardless...
Really? That's so fucking inexcusable.
Symmetric sticks.
Better D-Pad.
Touchpad can be used for some useful macros.
Do not upgrade to Windows 10 yet, unless you want to be a test monkey.
Preference. For me there's no comparison. The Xbox One controller (and 360 controller) are simply far superior. And both of those will go in the trash once the Elite comes out in October. I'll be upgrading to Win 10 day 1.
It's possible that MS really wants you to use XBone controller instead of Sony's offering.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZB7W4QU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Unless "exist" in this case means not currently released.
You can choose to use a touchpad on Xbox controllers?So purely down to choice, then.
Literally one step away from people who say 7 is better than 8.1.
December 31st, wow jesus, it took them 3 years to make a fucking dongle.
And then they have a gall the pretend to they care about PC gaming? What a joke.
Do not upgrade to Windows 10 yet, unless you want to be a test monkey.
Literally one step away from people who say 7 is better than 8.1.
Point still stands, a couple months difference or not it's still basically 3 years, for a dongle.
I believe that's a placeholder date. I think its supposed to come out in the Fall.
How has 2016 been? Any hot stock investment tips?
Point still stands, a couple months difference or not it's still basically 3 years, for a dongle.
With the battery life of the DS4 being so horrendous, I am sure most would choose to use it plugged in anyway. Calling this a wash ATM ��
I've never had to plug in my DS4 to play a game. If I had to I'd just use a 360 controller instead of playing wired tbh.
But yeah there is no excuse for its battery life, but it hardly makes it a wash.
Point still stands, a couple months difference or not it's still basically 3 years, for a dongle.
How about not having its functionality broken, due to not actually having official drvier support?![]()
How about not having its functionality broken, due to not actually having official driver support?![]()
Yeah, not to mention not even working properly on the PS3 nevermind the PC, Sony really dropped the ball.
"Official driver support" wouldn't fix this, because an "official driver" would have to do functionally the same thing as InputMapper and DS4Windows.
Native Xinput support for the DS4 would probably require a hardware revision and getting certified by Microsoft to actually use the API.