Do not upgrade to Windows 10 (yet) if you are using DualShock 4
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MillionStabs
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Yay! Thank you!
Nabs
Member
I made a fancy gif. Just use the connect button before turning on or connecting your controller. You may have to do it twice if you end up with red text at the bottom of the program. Oh, and make sure Steam is closed.
The Windows update that fixes this will hopefully come out next month.
drotahorror
Member
Finally upgraded. I like it.
I do have a problem though. When I open my task manager it says my cpu is @ 100% usage. It's lying and it's not. I've looked up some fixes but I'm leery of updating my bios, as I seen a post from someone with the same board as me and he jacked his up.
*Alright so I fixed it.
Was legit getting worried, but I updated the bios, and then when the computer restarted it said it couldn't start 'inaccessible boot device'. So I figured the boot device in the bios was incorrect. It wasn't. I dunno but after trying a few things, I unplugged my second hdd, changed sata mode from ide to ahci (I think that was a part) in the bios, and disabled my br drive from being a boot device and I got into safe mode (still was getting inaccessible boot device, got there from advanced options - was one of the two choices it gave me). Then restarted and all is good.
back to 0% usage. Also it was actually affecting the cpu even though it wasn't being used 100%. It was keeping it clocked at a higher rate than idle, like turbo speed or whatever they do now. So it was running warmer and using more power than right now, or when at idle.
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I do have a problem though. When I open my task manager it says my cpu is @ 100% usage. It's lying and it's not. I've looked up some fixes but I'm leery of updating my bios, as I seen a post from someone with the same board as me and he jacked his up.
*Alright so I fixed it.
Was legit getting worried, but I updated the bios, and then when the computer restarted it said it couldn't start 'inaccessible boot device'. So I figured the boot device in the bios was incorrect. It wasn't. I dunno but after trying a few things, I unplugged my second hdd, changed sata mode from ide to ahci (I think that was a part) in the bios, and disabled my br drive from being a boot device and I got into safe mode (still was getting inaccessible boot device, got there from advanced options - was one of the two choices it gave me). Then restarted and all is good.
back to 0% usage. Also it was actually affecting the cpu even though it wasn't being used 100%. It was keeping it clocked at a higher rate than idle, like turbo speed or whatever they do now. So it was running warmer and using more power than right now, or when at idle.
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SlipperyFishes
Banned
Yeah. I'm pretty sure this isn't the case. They're just implementing their standards.
Leatherface
Member
It is simpler. DS4 is a really nice, easy piece of software. You should have zero issues.
I made a fancy gif. Just use the connect button before turning on or connecting your controller. You may have to do it twice if you end up with red text at the bottom of the program. Oh, and make sure Steam is closed.
The Windows update that fixes this will hopefully come out next month.
this is great news :O
I was actually thinking of getting a XBO controller but yay!
Still biding my time before I upgrade...
On another note, I saw that Microsoft finally got with the times and implemented multiple taskbars between monitors. But how customizable are things compared to DisplayFusion, for example? That's what I'm using for windows 7 at the moment.
On another note, I saw that Microsoft finally got with the times and implemented multiple taskbars between monitors. But how customizable are things compared to DisplayFusion, for example? That's what I'm using for windows 7 at the moment.
chekhonte
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Steam Link is being reported to recognizing both ps3 and ps4 controllers. I saw on imgur yesterday that it even recognized the Wii U gamepad but the inputs didn't work.
I preordered one just to have a single solution for 4 controllers I own all with strengths and weaknesses. It'll be nice to have the the ps3/4 dpad for platformers and the xbone and 360 controller for games like dark souls or non competitive shooters.
I preordered one just to have a single solution for 4 controllers I own all with strengths and weaknesses. It'll be nice to have the the ps3/4 dpad for platformers and the xbone and 360 controller for games like dark souls or non competitive shooters.
onken
Member
How does that work? via USB I'm guessing? Does the Link even support stuff like Bluetooth?
Dsyndrome
Member
Windows 10 should be updating today with Build 10586.3, should fix the underlying issue with using the DS4 exclusivity on Windows 10.
Windows 10 November Update Features Fixes and Enterprise Readiness
Windows 10 November Update Features Fixes and Enterprise Readiness
That's good. Is there a specific KB link for the fix? I didn't see it mentioned in the article.
The article doesn't mention anything about connectivity.
How do you know it fixes issues with the DS4? Are you using the latest insider build? I need answers ;p
So far my DS4 works alright with the current Windows 10 but Exclusive mode doesn't seem to work properly.
The first one is a big con, and the second one can't be used because it itsn't utilized. Though the second point you have is agreeable.
Dsyndrome
Member
The issue was fixed in Build 10532, so unless they regressed, it should be included.
Haven't seen one yet unfortunately.
ok cool 👍
I had to leave the insider program because the Xbox controller was playing up. Should probably jump back in now since I got my DS4 back
yeah, new update fixed it for me too.
If you can't get it from Windows update, you can use the media upgrade tool.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
How can I update already? Do I have to wait for Windows Update?
If you can't get it from Windows update, you can use the media upgrade tool.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
I already have Windows 10. I'm talking about the new update.
The new media upgrade will install the latest update if you select upgrade (the update is a new build of windows). Or just wait it out; eventually you'll get the download in WU.
Oh cool. I'll try that out since I want to play Fallout 4 with my DS4.
boclfon479
Member
I have been playing binding of Isaac afterbirth with the DS4, at first I was looking for some sort of software to use either that or my Wii u pro controller, but on a whim I decided to just plug the DS4 in and, without any firmware or anything, it works 100% perfectly as a wired controller.
It doesn't even unsync it from the ps4 and it makes it not turn my ps4 on, so I can still use it back and forth between my PC and PS4.
It doesn't even unsync it from the ps4 and it makes it not turn my ps4 on, so I can still use it back and forth between my PC and PS4.
jediyoshi
Member
Many games just natively support the DS4 regardless of Windows version. Ironically, these are the exact games that cause the specific issue this thread was started for.
Soodanim
Member
Isn't it games that half-support it that are the problem? Weird mappings, dodgy sticks etc
onken
Member
Got the update and YES it is finally fixed, though you still need to run the app as administrator for it to detect in exclusive mode. I'm still using the original DS4 to Xinput Mapper 1.2.1 (most reliable imo) and now nothing special to do, just launch as admin and away I go. Finally!
jediyoshi
Member
Nope, all games that specifically account for it like Ubisoft's newer games and seemingly a lot of newer Unity games (not including ones that just detect generic input devices, in which case aren't an issue).
How does a game detect that a DirectInput controller is a DS4 specifically, is it just relying on the name when it enumerates when connected? Would be nice if there was a list somewhere of native DS4 supporting games - might have to start just setting up profiles to fire DS4Windows when it's needed (or do it manually).
Nabs
Member
I don't get where you're getting that from, it's not true at all. Both programs use the same drivers, so they should both have the same input latency (I've used both and noticed no difference). I use DS4windows because it has a nicer UI, it's much easier to use, and I don't have to deal with banner ads. It also has the touchpad (touch) shift modifier that I can't live without.
Wonko_C
Member
I went with ds4windows because I saw inputmapper has ads. Is the lag present when plugged in via USB?
I have tried both and found INputMappers Macro system much easier. Also it's $2 to get rid of the ads and for how good the program is, it's well worth it.
At this point I have so many games I have custom setups for, it would be a pain to switch. I also found InputMappers UI better too. Totally subjective of course.
InputMapper is also getting support for other controllers. Which will be very nice. I love the DS4 but I don't want all my custom mappings to be tied to it forever if a better controller does come out, like the Xbox Elite for instance. I think the paddles will make up for the loss of touchpad.
I am pretty sure InputMapper fully supports touchpad shift modifier too. Unless you mean something different to what I am thinking.
At this point I have so many games I have custom setups for, it would be a pain to switch. I also found InputMappers UI better too. Totally subjective of course.
InputMapper is also getting support for other controllers. Which will be very nice. I love the DS4 but I don't want all my custom mappings to be tied to it forever if a better controller does come out, like the Xbox Elite for instance. I think the paddles will make up for the loss of touchpad.
I am pretty sure InputMapper fully supports touchpad shift modifier too. Unless you mean something different to what I am thinking.
Nabs
Member
Yeah, I think you're right about the touchpad thing, it's just presented differently. Still, both programs are fine, it's just up to personal preference.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I'm on the new Windows build (10586) and the "hide DS4 controller" option now works perfectly.
I can finally upgrade to windows 10 now, let me download it.
Grinchy
Banned
I'm on build 10240 and it says I'm up to date every time I look for an update.
I'm glad I can get the DS4 working after a few tries, but the process of killing explorer multiple times whenever I want to play a game has become incredibly annoying. Hopefully I can get this update soon.
I'm glad I can get the DS4 working after a few tries, but the process of killing explorer multiple times whenever I want to play a game has become incredibly annoying. Hopefully I can get this update soon.
great, thanks for confirming
DylanTackoor
Member
Is the home button working for anyone else on the new Windows 10 update? Exclusive mode is fine now, but I can't bring up the steam overlay or launch big picture with the home button now.
Wonko_C
Member
The same thing is happening to me. There is something probably going on with the new version of Windows since you can actually partially control the start menu and some apps (mail, photos) with the controller now.
jediyoshi
Member
They already always worked, the only issue was needing a quick work around for a specific function that applies to certain games. You still need a work around for it to work under certain conditions regardless of your version of Windows.
First time reading this, any citation outside of anecdotal evidence?
Where are people getting this elusive update? It is neither on the official page nor in the update settings and certainly NOT in the media creation updater. I understand it was (still is?) an insider update that should be included in a public update sometime if ever?
For reference, the latest public update is KB3106932 published 11/13/2015 which did not fix the issue. Nothing else since and therefore DS4 does not open in exclusive mode with input mapper.
For reference, the latest public update is KB3106932 published 11/13/2015 which did not fix the issue. Nothing else since and therefore DS4 does not open in exclusive mode with input mapper.
Nabs
Member
Where are people getting this elusive update? It is neither on the official page nor in the update settings and certainly NOT in the media creation updater. I understand it was (still is?) an insider update that should be included in a public update sometime if ever?
For reference, the latest public update is KB3106932 published 11/13/2015 which did not fix the issue. Nothing else since and therefore DS4 does not open in exclusive mode with input mapper.
I think KB3106932 was the patch before the patch. The Media Creation Tool does have the new patch, that's how I got it.
Weird...I tried that 2h ago and instead of updating, it reverted me to an earlier version that had to download a lot of updates during install. Maybe Germany is on a different upgrade path from everyone else due to the legal restrictions that apply here? Will try again tomorrow.
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