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[strange headache]

Just watched it with a couple of friends and, my god, what a load of absolute wank.
Not even a few beers can make this entertaining to watch.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Me and my wife finally watched it last night and we both came to the realization these movies aren't for us anymore. It's not so much that they've changed, it's just they're so fucking empty, brain dead and by the numbers its always predictable, and while they felt fresh in the beginning and built up to a decent climax its no longer entertaining, it's simply absurd.

You can just replace whichever superhero is on screen with a different one and you essentially have the sequel for whichever character is next in line. When it was over we immediately went back to playing Monster Hunter Rise, which we then regretted we had lost 2 1/2 hours of playing time due to the movie.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Me and my wife finally watched it last night and we both came to the realization these movies aren't for us anymore. It's not so much that they've changed, it's just they're so fucking empty, brain dead and by the numbers its always predictable, and while they felt fresh in the beginning and built up to a decent climax its no longer entertaining, it's simply absurd.

You can just replace whichever superhero is on screen with a different one and you essentially have the sequel for whichever character is next in line. When it was over we immediately went back to playing Monster Hunter Rise, which we then regretted we had lost 2 1/2 hours of playing time due to the movie.

Eh, I'm sure you'll change your tune if MCU movies reach Infinity War levels of quality again. Watching a couple of clunker sci-fi movies wouldn't turn me off the entire sci-fi genre per say.

 

[Lady Jane]

Me and my wife finally watched it last night and we both came to the realization these movies aren't for us anymore. It's not so much that they've changed, it's just they're so fucking empty, brain dead and by the numbers its always predictable, and while they felt fresh in the beginning and built up to a decent climax its no longer entertaining, it's simply absurd.

You can just replace whichever superhero is on screen with a different one and you essentially have the sequel for whichever character is next in line. When it was over we immediately went back to playing Monster Hunter Rise, which we then regretted we had lost 2 1/2 hours of playing time due to the movie.

They used to be good enough to go to the movies for. Now they're only good enough to wait for it to be on Disney+

 

[Jaybe]

Me and my wife finally watched it last night and we both came to the realization these movies aren't for us anymore. It's not so much that they've changed, it's just they're so fucking empty, brain dead and by the numbers its always predictable, and while they felt fresh in the beginning and built up to a decent climax its no longer entertaining, it's simply absurd.

You can just replace whichever superhero is on screen with a different one and you essentially have the sequel for whichever character is next in line. When it was over we immediately went back to playing Monster Hunter Rise, which we then regretted we had lost 2 1/2 hours of playing time due to the movie.

I find multiverse concept so boring. Feels like no real stakes. I Always hated the ole let’s travel time to solve a situation trope and MCU has amplified that and made it seemingly the core of this phase.

 

[Interfectum]

Watched this movie the other night. Predictable, boring and was basically a retelling of Wandavision. Narratively I'm not sure why this movie exists. The Dr Strange character is getting severely watered down.

 

[AJUMP23]

Watched this movie the other night. Predictable, boring and was basically a retelling of Wandavision. Narratively I'm not sure why this movie exists. The Dr Strange character is getting severely watered down.

Introduce America. She is apparently key to phase 4.

 

[Lady Jane]

Introduce America. She is apparently key to phase 4.

You're telling me that actress is going to be in more films? She was so dry that she brought down every scene she was in. I refuse to believe that she went through the traditional auditions to get that part.

 

[AJUMP23]

Lady Jane Apparently so. Ol Kevin said she was key. Maybe that was promotion to get people in seats. But Dimensional portals are apparently important now.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Just watched it. Dialogue was pretty banal the whole way through. What little jokes were there seemed forced.

Also the entire plot of the movie is moot. Why would Wanda think kids from another universe wouldn't be terrified by a red eyed, flying witch and would want her as their mum?

Just dumb. CGI was really good though

 

[Alter_Fridge]

I haven't watched any other fan stuff about this movie, but this is what drove me nuts:

- They consistently try to "ground" Doctor Strange to the real world and real problems by having girl issues by bringing in Kristine as "the girl who got away". But Strange has the world on his shoulders, he's in the Avengers and has saved the galaxy from Thanos. Am I supposed to believe he struggles with "not being happy" because he isn't together with a fling he had when he was a young doctor? he was pretty much over here in the first movie towards the end, here, he can't go 15 seconds without getting depressed he ain't with Kristine. It's such a trite nonsensical side-story.

- The Witch got trapped behind a blast door, Strange and Amerika looked into the darkness for a while, and then the Witch popped up in front of the blast door? huh? even if she popped past the blast door, why did she just stand in the darkness for so long?

- Strange, Amerika and Kristine jumps into a weird dimensional to find a book. They unlock a magic door and walk inside. But they don't close the magic door and the Witch just walks in after them, huh? why let her in?

- Picard leading "the illuminati" with the worst alternate superheroes I have ever seen. The Fantastic Four guy from the office looked like a cooked shrimp in that suit.

- At the end, the Witch was sitting inside the room with those kids, but when Amerika closed the portal, she was sitting in the throne room? huh? she never went through the portal.

- The Witch wants to travel to another dimension to be a house mom? and she wants Amerika's power so she could find medicine in different universes in case the kids get sick? who writes this?

- That terrible zombie costume when Strange dream walked his dead alternate body, and how the zombie walked and talked like he was hand-animated. It was like it turned into a Charlie Chaplin movie.

- The small evil spirits that "attacked Doctor Strange" but all they did was nip at his clothes. They did nothing.

- There was this weird scene where that guy tried to squirt mustard on Strange's face for no reason, and Strange them mind-fucking him so he bashes his own head in for 3 weeks straight. What a hell was that? Amerika laughed at the thought of this guy murdering himself.

- Doctor Strange not just annihilating that octopus thing in the beginning but instead being clumsy and dumb, stretching the fight out.

- Wong gives the Witch the magical book even though he's a guardian? isn't his entire reason to live to guard this stuff?

- At some point, Strange and Amerika step out of a portal and walk onto a button that shows Strange and Kristine (conveniently) in the past, and then Amerika's backstory shows her parents smiling as Amerika picks flowers, then she freaks out and her mom's fly into another universe. It was like a 20 seconds backstory. That scene with Amerika picking flowers was unbelievably corny.

- Amerika leaping from the stone throne towards the Witch with a superman punch while screaming.

- In the end of the movie, there are these rushed sequences, Strange tells Amerika that he trusts she can use her powers, and she IMMEDIATELY starts to use them, the witch sees her fantasy kids, and IMMEDIATELY becomes good. This ultra-conveniently personality switches right at the end don't work.

Hahaha all of this

 

[sol_bad]

Just watched it. Dialogue was pretty banal the whole way through. What little jokes were there seemed forced.

Also the entire plot of the movie is moot. Why would Wanda think kids from another universe wouldn't be terrified by a red eyed, flying witch and would want her as their mum?

Just dumb. CGI was really good though

She didn't think kids from another universe wouldn't be terrified by a red eyed flying witch. Wanda's plan was to murder the real mum and take her place. Things just got out of hand because Wanda was corrupted by the Darkhold and she was nutso.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

She didn't think kids from another universe wouldn't be terrified by a red eyed flying witch. Wanda's plan was to murder the real mum and take her place. Things just got out of hand because Wanda was corrupted by the Darkhold and she was nutso.

Ok fair enough

Here's a question. The Christine that Strange leaves at the end was in a different dimension from her original right, but the movie never says she needs to get back, only Steven?

 

[sol_bad]

Ok fair enough

Here's a question. The Christine that Strange leaves at the end was in a different dimension from her original right, but the movie never says she needs to get back, only Steven?

It's implied that America will return both Strange and Christine back to their respective realities.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

It's implied that America will return both Strange and Christine back to their respective realities.

Implied how?

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Sam Raimi has been unleashed. General audiences have no idea what they are in for lmao

A much less enjoyable movie than the first one?

 

[sol_bad]

Implied how?

Why would Strange and America leave her stranded in a destroyed reality when they know it's not her reality.
You don't see America return Strange or Christine back to their rightful realities. Strange and Christine have their moment and America and Wong appear ready to take them home.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Why would Strange and America leave her stranded in a destroyed reality when they know it's not her reality.
You don't see America return Strange or Christine back to their rightful realities. Strange and Christine have their moment and America and Wong appear ready to take them home.

The movie goes out of the way to explicitly say Strange was being returned. I felt the omission of any mention of getting Christine back implied she was getting abandoned, for lack of a better term

 

[sol_bad]

The movie goes out of the way to explicitly say Strange was being returned. I felt the omission of any mention of getting Christine back implied she was getting abandoned, for lack of a better term

I just watched the scene again.
America leaves zombie strange and says to him "I'll find you".
Wanda makes the temple collapse.
Then you see Strange and Christine together and he tells her that America is on her way to get them.
So the movie more than implies that Christine will return her to her proper reality.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

I just watched the scene again.
America leaves zombie strange and says to him "I'll find you".
Wanda makes the temple collapse.
Then you see Strange and Christine together and he tells her that America is on her way to get them.
So the movie more than implies that Christine will return her to her proper reality.

Ok thanks for clearing all this up. 1 more question

Do all (infinite) Strange's have the same childhood? Surely there's some of him out there who grew up without a sister.

 

[sol_bad]

Ok thanks for clearing all this up. 1 more question

Do all (infinite) Strange's have the same childhood? Surely there's some of him out there who grew up without a sister.

There are no rules to the multiverse. Strange could look the same in some realities, look like a completely different person in other realities, might be an animal in various realities, he could be a cartoon in some realities, he may or may not have a sister in various realities.

 

[Ulysses 31]

There are no rules to the multiverse. Strange could look the same in some realities, look like a completely different person in other realities, might be an animal in various realities, he could be a cartoon in some realities, he may or may not have a sister in various realities.

So it seems like an oversight in the writing(sloppy) that insane Strange assumes our Strange would have the same secrets/things he doesn't talk about as he would. Both of them should know that with the nature of the multiverse, people can have different pasts.

Ok thanks for clearing all this up. 1 more question

Do all (infinite) Strange's have the same childhood? Surely there's some of him out there who grew up without a sister.

You have no questions why Defender Strange in the beginning didn't use his sling ring that the dead version uses later on in the movie?

 

[sol_bad]

So it seems like an oversight in the writing(sloppy) that insane Strange assumes our Strange would have the same secrets/things he doesn't talk about as he would. Both of them should know that with the nature of the multiverse, people can have different pasts.

You have no questions why Defender Strange in the beginning didn't use his sling ring that the dead version uses later on in the movie?

I'm someone who reads comics and has seen the multiverse a hundred times. I can't imagine that Strange would around reading comics in his spare time so he is free to assume whatever he wants about the multiverse, it's all new to him in a manner of speaking.

 

[Ulysses 31]

I'm someone who reads comics and has seen the multiverse a hundred times. I can't imagine that Strange would around reading comics in his spare time so he is free to assume whatever he wants about the multiverse, it's all new to him in a manner of speaking.

He looked into millions of alternate realities to defeat Thanos, he caused big problems that could've destroyed multiverses in No Way Home. Dr. Strange should be familiar with the multiverse concept, or at least have some grasp on it, by the time Multiverse of Madness happens, shouldn't he?

 

[SJRB]

That Wanda though

She can dreamwalk me any time.

 

[Bragr]

She didn't think kids from another universe wouldn't be terrified by a red eyed flying witch. Wanda's plan was to murder the real mum and take her place. Things just got out of hand because Wanda was corrupted by the Darkhold and she was nutso.

She didn't think the kids wouldn't be terrified by killing their mom in front of the kids?

She tried to murder their parent and become their new mom IN FRONT OF THEM.

Don't try to defend this absolute complete horseshit of a movie. It's absolutely undefendable.

 

[sol_bad]

He looked into millions of alternate realities to defeat Thanos, he caused big problems that could've destroyed multiverses in No Way Home. Dr. Strange should be familiar with the multiverse concept, or at least have some grasp on it, by the time Multiverse of Madness happens, shouldn't he?

I don't know.
People in real life have watched Infinity War, No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness. They should have some grasp on how the multiverse works shouldn't they?

She didn't think the kids wouldn't be terrified by killing their mom in front of the kids?

She tried to murder their parent and become their new mom IN FRONT OF THEM.

Don't try to defend this absolute complete horseshit of a movie. It's absolutely undefendable.

Read my post again.

She wasn't intending for anything bad to happen in front of the kids, she would have killed their mum when they weren't around and she would have been their mum going forward.
But America intervened and everything went sideways. Of course she knows the kids would be scared shitless if they saw her go crazy witch red eyes in front of them.
Almost instantly she realised she was a monster in front of them and broke free of the Darkholds ... hold on her.

 

[Ulysses 31]

I don't know.
People in real life have watched Infinity War, No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness. They should have some grasp on how the multiverse works shouldn't they?

It's called an alternate reality for a reason, as in different things have happened and from that one can infer that the past can be different in varying degrees. I'm sure Dr. Strange is smart enough to understand that at least, but maybe the Loki writer doesn't for some reason. He had Defender Strange not use his sling ring after all.

 

[Bragr]

I don't know.
People in real life have watched Infinity War, No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness. They should have some grasp on how the multiverse works shouldn't they?



Read my post again.

She wasn't intending for anything bad to happen in front of the kids, she would have killed their mum when they weren't around and she would have been their mum going forward.
But America intervened and everything went sideways. Of course she knows the kids would be scared shitless if they saw her go crazy witch red eyes in front of them.
Almost instantly she realised she was a monster in front of them and broke free of the Darkholds ... hold on her.

First off, this idea that the darkhold corrupts her enough to murder people across dimensions and is this super powerful artifact but instantly breaks when the kids cry is ABSURD.

The acting in that final scene is also unbearable, the kids can't act, the Amerika kid can't act, it's so cringe it might cause nerve damage.

There is a point where the witch gets teleported into the kids living room, and she throws the mom across the room, and the kids start to throw toys at the witch, and she was like "STOP" and the kids become scared.

They weren't scared when A WITCH COMES THROUGH A PORTAL AND THROWS THEIR MOM ACROSS THE ROOM, no, that was fine, but when she said stop, that was the breaking point. Man fuck this movie.

She then commits multi-dimensional seppuku.

 

[DeafTourette]

He looked into millions of alternate realities to defeat Thanos, he caused big problems that could've destroyed multiverses in No Way Home. Dr. Strange should be familiar with the multiverse concept, or at least have some grasp on it, by the time Multiverse of Madness happens, shouldn't he?

He looked into 14 million possible OUTCOMES of the war with Thanos. He didn't go traipsing into all of them like a tourist. They were possibilities in the main MCU universe... That's it. No dimensional hopping.

That's not the same as crossing universes because that introduces too much variance.

 

[sol_bad]

First off, this idea that the darkhold corrupts her enough to murder people across dimensions and is this super powerful artifact but instantly breaks when the kids cry is ABSURD.

The acting in that final scene is also unbearable, the kids can't act, the Amerika kid can't act, it's so cringe it might cause nerve damage.

There is a point where the witch gets teleported into the kids living room, and she throws the mom across the room, and the kids start to throw toys at the witch, and she was like "STOP" and the kids become scared.

They weren't scared when A WITCH COMES THROUGH A PORTAL AND THROWS THEIR MOM ACROSS THE ROOM, no, that was fine, but when she said stop, that was the breaking point. Man fuck this movie.

She then commits multi-dimensional seppuku.

I agree the kids weren't the best actors in that scene. They were better in the TV show.

 

[Ulysses 31]

He looked into 14 million possible OUTCOMES of the war with Thanos. He didn't go traipsing into all of them like a tourist. They were possibilities in the main MCU universe... That's it. No dimensional hopping.

That's not the same as crossing universes because that introduces too much variance.

You don't need to visit other realities to grasp that those universes are shaped by different events and thus one's past will likely have differences, assuming an alternate version of you even exists there.

 

[Sub_Level]

A much less enjoyable movie than the first one?

I personally enjoyed it a lot more. Sorry that you didn’t have the same experience with this goofy comic book movie (of which we only get 10 a year). But hey, good talk, thanks for the witty reply 3 months later. Can skip coffee today since my neurons are already stimulated.

 

[SJRB]

 

[Alter_Fridge]

So it seems like an oversight in the writing(sloppy) that insane Strange assumes our Strange would have the same secrets/things he doesn't talk about as he would. Both of them should know that with the nature of the multiverse, people can have different pasts.

You have no questions why Defender Strange in the beginning didn't use his sling ring that the dead version uses later on in the movie?

Haha true

 

[Xenon]

The whole premise of this move seems kinda fucked. Wanda originally invented the kids in a fantasy of her own creation with vision. Vision isn't a real person and couldn't have kids. So how could she have kids like them in alternate timelines.

It wasn't a bad movie. Just more pointless phase 3 dribble. Dora wasn't as annoying as I thought she was going to be. But once again, she goes from zero to hero without training. "You had the power in you child all along"

The Dr strange bits are lacking as well. The emotional parts didn't hit me as hard as they should have. This is very disappointing because Remi is great at that shit. But I have a feeling this has more to do with Disney.

 

[DeafTourette]

The whole premise of this move seems kinda fucked. Wanda originally invented the kids in a fantasy of her own creation with vision. Vision isn't a real person and couldn't have kids. So how could she have kids like them in alternate timelines.

It wasn't a bad movie. Just more pointless phase 3 dribble. Dora wasn't as annoying as I thought she was going to be. But once again, she goes from zero to hero without training. "You had the power in you child all along"

The Dr strange bits are lacking as well. The emotional parts didn't hit me as hard as they should have. This is very disappointing because Remi is great at that shit. But I have a feeling this has more to do with Disney.

America Chavez explained it.. your dreams are yous seeing your alternate universe self. She dreamed of them before or during WandaVision. She even dreamed of them in the beginning of the movie.

 

[Oddinary]

Wanda originally invented the kids in a fantasy of her own creation with vision. Vision isn't a real person and couldn't have kids. So how could she have kids like them in alternate timelines.

Not to defend the film here, but it's a different universe and we don't know who that version of Wanda has the kids with in that universe, much less whether Vision is the same being in that universe. I don't believe the father is ever stated or even implied in the film. Moreover, in the fantasy where she invented the kids, Vision is just a human, not synthetic being. In a different universe (particularly that one), Vision could also be a human. As someone else stated, the multiverse has no rules.

 

[Doom85]

As someone else stated, the multiverse has no rules.

Hell, in Loki:

Spoiler

One of the variant Lokis is an alligator!

 

[Bragr]

B-movie doesn't even cover it.

 

[lifa-cobex]

I find multiverse concept so boring. Feels like no real stakes. I Always hated the ole let’s travel time to solve a situation trope and MCU has amplified that and made it seemingly the core of this phase.

The series and films have watered down their own product.
I'm not a fan of the time travel thing either as it takes away consequence of action. They were smart enough to do it for the last important film and in a way where things can't technically change.

It was bad enough in Loki when they dismissed the stones as just some comical side thing.
Now with this multiverse thing. Characters can be replaced and death is inconsequential. I guarantee they will bring back RDJ for a film at some point. Probably not until the point where Disney is worried about its money boat franchise.

 

[DeafTourette]

The series and films have watered down their own product.
I'm not a fan of the time travel thing either as it takes away consequence of action. They were smart enough to do it for the last important film and in a way where things can't technically change.

It was bad enough in Loki when they dismissed the stones as just some comical side thing.
Now with this multiverse thing. Characters can be replaced and death is inconsequential. I guarantee they will bring back RDJ for a film at some point. Probably not until the point where Disney is worried about its money boat franchise.

Why do y'all bring up stuff that hasn't happened?

(Now they can bring in a new Tony Stark, a new Natasha, a new everyone and death is inconsequential)

And in the Loki show, they were outside of time... Of course the stones won't work there. The joke (that we all found out in the end) was that the TVA agents were basically taught dogma about the sacred timeline, the "people" in power over the TVA and the TVA itself.

 

[Doom85]

Why do y'all bring up stuff that hasn't happened?

(Now they can bring in a new Tony Stark, a new Natasha, a new everyone and death is inconsequential)

And in the Loki show, they were outside of time... Of course the stones won't work there. The joke (that we all found out in the end) was that the TVA agents were basically taught dogma about the sacred timeline, the "people" in power over the TVA and the TVA itself.

Not to mention it doesn’t truly bring back those who were lost.

The 2014 Gamora, for example, is NOT the Gamora we saw grow through Guardians 1 and 2. That character is (presumably) dead (though this is the one IW/Endgame death I want them to resurrect, I just found it unsatisfying and IIRC Adam Warlock can revive souls…). Same with Loki, the one in the show now only had his character arc of Thor 1 and Avengers 1. Thus his character evolution was different from the main Loki since the new one can’t interact with Thor or his parents.

For those of us truly invested in these characters, this is significant. Peter Quill will most likely never see HIS Gamora again. Likewise Thor will most likely never see Loki again. The losses DID matter.

And I do find it odd people are claiming the multiverse and time travel make death meaningless yet none bitch how we currently have THREE types of afterlife confirmed so far: the one seen in Black Panther 1, the one in Moon Knight, and yet another one in Thor 4. So guess what, presumably everyone will see each other again someday……but it doesn’t ease the pain of a character losing someone they love. Even in real life, people who strongly believe in some form of afterlife still get emotional over a death of a loved one. That’s not illogical because it still hurts to be separated from them even if it is possibly only temporarily.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Anyone notice how Scarlett Witch killed off all the Male Illuminati before the Female members?

#Wokeakanda Forever
#Agenda
#M-She-U

 

[Ulysses 31]

Anyone notice how Scarlett Witch killed off all the Male Illuminati before the Female members?

#Wokeakanda Forever
#Agenda
#M-She-U

Yeah, the action music started once those 2 were out of the way. And the other 2 did nothing but watch...

Turning Reed Richards in spaghetti was Feige's idea...

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Yeah, the action music started once those 2 were out of the way. And the other 2 did nothing but watch...

Turning Reed Richards in spaghetti was Feige's idea...

Not to mention the consumate ease with which Reed and Black Bolt were dispatched (and Xavier for that matter).

Compared with the formidable battle that Captain's Carter and Marvel put up.

Feige must be stopped

He's like the anti-Weinstein at this point. Gone way too far the other way

 

[Ulysses 31]

Not to mention the consumate ease with which Reed and Black Bolt were dispatched (and Xavier for that matter).

Compared with the formidable battle that Captain's Carter and Marvel put up.

Feige must be stopped

Nah, just dial back the ridiculing of men to prop up the women.

They could've shown the Illuminate working better as a team and still have Wanda ultimately win.

 

[Pagusas]

Me and my wife finally watched it last night and we both came to the realization these movies aren't for us anymore. It's not so much that they've changed, it's just they're so fucking empty, brain dead and by the numbers its always predictable, and while they felt fresh in the beginning and built up to a decent climax its no longer entertaining, it's simply absurd.

You can just replace whichever superhero is on screen with a different one and you essentially have the sequel for whichever character is next in line. When it was over we immediately went back to playing Monster Hunter Rise, which we then regretted we had lost 2 1/2 hours of playing time due to the movie.

Wife and I had the same opinion (we hated the film, so maybe a little worse than yours) but overall came out realizing these films werent for us anymore.... and then we went back on a whim and watched Iron Man 1. Still as great as ever and feels completely different, grounded, fun to watch, and has substance. Basically I think your argument that "its not so much that they've changed" is wrong, I think thats exactly what the problem is, they have changed and went too far away from anything grounded or relatable. It was bound to happen, but its a been an esspecially obvious problem in this entire phase, its just gotten to out of hand and lacks any connection anymore to the world we are in.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Nah, just dial back the ridiculing of men to prop up the women.

They could've shown the Illuminate working better as a team and still have Wanda ultimately win.

The whole script was finalised in three weeks, wasn't it? This is a telling excerpt from Wikipedia:

Waldron had three weeks to write a new script draft based on the work done by Derrickson and Bartlett. He said this was "almost impossible",[79] and Raimi felt "very rushed and panicked" trying to meet the May 2020 production start date

Pretty eye opening. 3 weeks

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Wife and I had the same opinion (we hated the film, so maybe a little worse than yours) but overall came out realizing these films werent for us anymore.... and then we went back on a whim and watched Iron Man 1. Still as great as ever and feels completely different, grounded, fun to watch, and has substance. Basically I think your argument that "its not so much that they've changed" is wrong, I think thats exactly what the problem is, they have changed and went too far away from anything grounded or relatable. It was bound to happen, but its a been an esspecially obvious problem in this entire phase, its just gotten to out of hand and lacks any connection anymore to the world we are in.

Go and watch Ragnarok again. It's just fun the whole way through. Especially Thor in Steven Strange's place, absolute riot