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Doctor Who 50th Anniversary |OT| Splendid Chap, All Of Them
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I don't even like his Doctor all that much, it's just his glaring absence - and his blanket refusal to do anything with the show, even in its golden anniversary year - really rubs me the wrong way.
Exterminieren
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The Day of the Doctor got awarded a Guinness World Record for largest simulcast of a drama.
DiipuSurotu
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If 10 is the one who regrets and 11 is the one who forgets, I wonder what 9 is.
Deleted Scene!
10: The shoes bring the cool
11: The cool?
10: You wouldn't understand the cool
11: You couldn't handle the cool
WAR: Not since Richmond. They haven't drawn breath since Richmond!
11: The cool?
10: You wouldn't understand the cool
11: You couldn't handle the cool
WAR: Not since Richmond. They haven't drawn breath since Richmond!
DrForester
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And amazingly, Billie Piper kept up with him better than Smith and Tennant.
Future Foundation
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What is "Richmond"? Is that a Classic Who nod?
infiniteloop
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I think he's just saying they've been marching to the Tower of London and they haven't stopped talking since Richmond:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_London
MesserWolf
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Wow it gave me goose bumps this special !
Amazing !
Amazing !
Future Foundation
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Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!
acheron_xl
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Probably why it was cut. Who outside of England would've understood?
Reflecting on the special
Did anyone else expect John Hurts Doctor to be a bit more, i dont know. Darker? After the build up and this reveal
And yet yesterdays special, he seemed a bit more of a Nicer doctor really, more than i anticipated
What i was expecting him to be like was kinda like how Eccleston was, kinda aggressive, Remember in the Dalek episode where he's having his great rant at the Dalek, and like ace in remeberance of the daleks where she smashed the dalek with the baseball bat. Just a bit more agressive for this doctor who was part of the great time war. Not quite as pyschotic as the master, but no pushover either.
Then i wouldve been like man no wonder he wanted to keep the war doctor a secret, he was nuts, instead he was more worn doctor than war doctor. Maybe thats how he was at first, but eventually got older, tireder and worn out
Maybe they could make a big movie set during the Time war one day, showing the true side of the war doctor
Anyway it was still a very good episode, no complaints here really it truly was different to my expectationand yet didnt let me down.
Did anyone else expect John Hurts Doctor to be a bit more, i dont know. Darker? After the build up and this reveal
And yet yesterdays special, he seemed a bit more of a Nicer doctor really, more than i anticipated
What i was expecting him to be like was kinda like how Eccleston was, kinda aggressive, Remember in the Dalek episode where he's having his great rant at the Dalek, and like ace in remeberance of the daleks where she smashed the dalek with the baseball bat. Just a bit more agressive for this doctor who was part of the great time war. Not quite as pyschotic as the master, but no pushover either.
Then i wouldve been like man no wonder he wanted to keep the war doctor a secret, he was nuts, instead he was more worn doctor than war doctor. Maybe thats how he was at first, but eventually got older, tireder and worn out
Maybe they could make a big movie set during the Time war one day, showing the true side of the war doctor
Anyway it was still a very good episode, no complaints here really it truly was different to my expectationand yet didnt let me down.
Not many in England would have got it either, bit too London focused.
Reflecting on the special
Did anyone else expect John Hurts Doctor to be a bit more, i dont know. Darker? After the build up and this reveal
And yet yesterdays special, he seemed a bit more of a Nicer doctor really, more than i anticipated
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That too was a little disappointing for me but they did make clear that this was before he turned destroyer. So he hasn't lost everything yet but still he should have been a bit more 'man on the edge'.
Smelly Tramp
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i'm not really a fan of moffat's who, and i hated it personally.
HassanJamal
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Just watched the 50th Anniversary....twas brilliant IMO!
The Doctors, the plot, the...everything! Loved it.
Really upset that Christopher Eccleston didnt do a 'surprise im back moment', understandable though but still :L Oh well, at least we got John Hurt who did a very believable secret Doctor AND Capaldi looking pissed.
Seeing as the Eleventh(12th?) Doctor didnt regenerate, imma be happy that we're getting one more Matt Smith Doctor ep. Cant wait for the Christmas Special
The Doctors, the plot, the...everything! Loved it.
Really upset that Christopher Eccleston didnt do a 'surprise im back moment', understandable though but still :L Oh well, at least we got John Hurt who did a very believable secret Doctor AND Capaldi looking pissed.
Seeing as the Eleventh(12th?) Doctor didnt regenerate, imma be happy that we're getting one more Matt Smith Doctor ep. Cant wait for the Christmas Special
Baleoce
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9 is the one who is upset.
KuwabaraTheMan
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As someone who also thinks that, you probably shouldn't bother. It's one of Moffat's worst scripts, really.
peanutbutterlatte
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So that was great. Too much screentime given to UNIT faffery, but it is the show's history I suppose.
paradox121
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That was partly the point though no?
The Doctor's supposedly been hiding this deep, dark side of himself because he hates facing what he did in order to end the Time War, when in fact the War Doctor is just like the other incarnations.
It's kinda like what you do when you regret something you did right? You villainise your younger self as being totally out of his/her mind and reason that, given the choice, you'd probably chose a different option, when in fact, as proved by all three Doctors choosing to press the button, he probably made the same decision he ever would. It was only Clara that stopped him from repeating the same mistake.
I don't think War Doctor was ever meant to be an evil Doctor so much as a massive personification of regret.
I know I'm a few pages late, but quick reality check w/r/t Eccleston:
When Eccleston signed up for Doctor Who he signed a contract for one series and promotion, which he fulfilled. It probably amounted to six months' to one year's work for him, about eight years ago. He did not sign anything that obliged him to be available at fans' beck and call to appear in whatever they wanted him to.
He did consider appearing in the special and met with Moffat over it. For whatever reasons, he chose not to be involved. I.e. he chose not to take time out of his life to dedicate to doing something he didn't enjoy, as is his right to do.
Basically, to paraphrase Neil Gaiman, Christopher Eccleston is not your bitch. And is it any wonder he doesn't want to be involved with a property where one minute people are praising his performance and then the next they're calling him a bastard for having different priorities than them? The sense of entitlement of some fans is ludicrous.
When Eccleston signed up for Doctor Who he signed a contract for one series and promotion, which he fulfilled. It probably amounted to six months' to one year's work for him, about eight years ago. He did not sign anything that obliged him to be available at fans' beck and call to appear in whatever they wanted him to.
He did consider appearing in the special and met with Moffat over it. For whatever reasons, he chose not to be involved. I.e. he chose not to take time out of his life to dedicate to doing something he didn't enjoy, as is his right to do.
Basically, to paraphrase Neil Gaiman, Christopher Eccleston is not your bitch. And is it any wonder he doesn't want to be involved with a property where one minute people are praising his performance and then the next they're calling him a bastard for having different priorities than them? The sense of entitlement of some fans is ludicrous.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Just watched the Five(ish) Doctors reboot.
EXCELLENT. Laughed a lot with it, and I loved the surprise at the end.
EXCELLENT. Laughed a lot with it, and I loved the surprise at the end.
I agree that Eccleston has the right to do as he pleases, though it does seem a bit stand-offish to not take part in something that - at least in the special we got - would have amounted to a very minor effort on his part but would have make many people very happy.
Oh well. It was good anyway.
Oh well. It was good anyway.
DrForester
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Reflecting on the special
Did anyone else expect John Hurts Doctor to be a bit more, i dont know. Darker? After the build up and this reveal
And yet yesterdays special, he seemed a bit more of a Nicer doctor really, more than i anticipated
What i was expecting him to be like was kinda like how Eccleston was, kinda aggressive, Remember in the Dalek episode where he's having his great rant at the Dalek, and like ace in remeberance of the daleks where she smashed the dalek with the baseball bat. Just a bit more agressive for this doctor who was part of the great time war. Not quite as pyschotic as the master, but no pushover either.
Then i wouldve been like man no wonder he wanted to keep the war doctor a secret, he was nuts, instead he was more worn doctor than war doctor. Maybe thats how he was at first, but eventually got older, tireder and worn out
Maybe they could make a big movie set during the Time war one day, showing the true side of the war doctor
Anyway it was still a very good episode, no complaints here really it truly was different to my expectationand yet didnt let me down.
I expected him to be darker, and was thrilled he wasn't. In the end, he was The Doctor, faced with a terrible decision. He was always The Doctor. 9-11 unfairly blamed him for that to try and make themselves feel better.
Exterminieren
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No one's denigrating Eccleston's work on the series, but when literally everyone else is getting involved, his refusal to get involved does, in fact, make him seem like a bit of a sour bastard. Surprising but true!
He does, of course, have the right not to get involved in the birthday party, but we also have the right to think less of him as a result.
He does, of course, have the right not to get involved in the birthday party, but we also have the right to think less of him as a result.
He does plenty of truly awful shit for a paycheck that he could have been arsed to at least pop on set for a few hours or even just show up at one of the anniversary events going on. It's hard not to read this full stop refusal as an outright nose thumb at the show and its fans, particularly when every other actor involved was chomping at the bit to be a part of it. The fact that he joked about how he'd love to do the 100th anniversary is like salt in the wounds.
The Technomancer
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Huh, I disagree. I'm hugely critical of Moffat as well and I thought this one worked out alright. Some stuff was handled pass then stellar (the Queen Elizabeth stuff could have used another pass maybe) but compared to stuff like the absolute mess that was the S7 finale or the general slog that has been anything Moffat has tried to do with larger more character driven storylines I feel this turned out pretty good.
DiipuSurotu
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One can easily have these two opinions at the same time. It's not contradictory.
Fair enough. I guess I just have different standards about what makes people worthy of being designated a bastard, scumbag, fucker, etc.
I don't think its a sense of entitlement as much as it is given his career choices he has done worse shit for a paycheck. So if he is a pay to play actor that really does not care, why not do something that required minimal effort from him and probably would have had a bigger paycheck.
Nobody is taking away his rights, it just seems that this could be in his best interest as an actor and his refusal does not really mesh with every other job choice he has ever made. Like we get it, your time on who almost a decade ago sucked with different people at the helm....move on.
I thought it was ok. Never got an ending to the whole Im going to blow London up because you sucking creatures arent having it.
The guy in the high council said their were 13 Doctors but with Capaldi being their wouldnt that mean 14? Especially after the War Doctor introduced himself as The Doctor.
The guy in the high council said their were 13 Doctors but with Capaldi being their wouldnt that mean 14? Especially after the War Doctor introduced himself as The Doctor.
The Technomancer
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DiipuSurotu
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I thought the subtle resolution was really nice. The Zygon version of scarf girl handled the inhalator to the real scarf girl when she was coughing and then the two of them smiled, implying the two species will manage to set their differences aside and come up with a peace treaty.
1-11 Doctors + Hurt + Capaldi = 13 Doctors.
Quick Mustard
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I fucking love how the chanting comes on when you see 13's eyes.
And for what its worth, the Council would only know there's 13 as they wont be aware of the one from Journeys End thats in another Universe.
And for what its worth, the Council would only know there's 13 as they wont be aware of the one from Journeys End thats in another Universe.
I'm guessing we'll also be dealing with that in the Christmas special.
Also, who thinks they'll give the Valeyard a shot? I wouldn't mind an evil Capaldi running around haha
Box of Bunnies
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The Meta-crisis Doctor wouldn't be there given he's in an alternate universe, doesn't have a TARDIS, and isn't actually part of the line of Doctors (remember the whole point is having an earlier Doctor start the calculations so they're done ready for the later ones)
Quick Mustard
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Exactly.
The Meta-Crisis Doctor is just a "wasted" regeneration to save Tens Vanity.
I see no reason why the War Council would ever know about him, given he's in another Universe.
I'm sure, as most have speculated, we will see the Regenreations dealt with, or atleast starting to be dealt with in the Christmas episode.
MesserWolf
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Damn she is so sexy ....
KuwabaraTheMan
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While I don't think it was as mired in Moffat's usual excesses in the same way as The Name of the Doctor or A Good Man Goes to War were, it still felt pretty bad to me. The plotting was really all over the place, especially with regard to the Zygon stuff (which never actually went anywhere, and wound up just feeling like a sidestory), and the Queen Elizabeth stuff was especially terrible. Aside from that, a lot of it just felt like the typical Moffat move of a bunch of movie trailer moments strung together without anything actually holding them together, and I hated how he basically took a massive shit on the entire RTD era and revealed 'oh, the Time Lords never actually died and the Doctor had no real reason to feel guilt or anguish'. That's really going to make it more difficult for me when I watch those episodes again. And of course, Moffat even managed to turn the resolution of the Time War into an 'everybody lives' moment, because nothing bad can ever happen to anyone as long as he's in charge.
And that scene with the Doctors running and making that big entrance with the bombastic music was just awful. I hate how Moffat has turned that into what the Doctor is. The Doctor should never be cool or badass. Moffat has just made him into another action hero.
JehutyRunner
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Call me very idiotic and silly in asking this, but has anyone done a fan video yet where they add Capaldi saying 'fuckity bye' from TTOI at the end of that monologue from Smith, Tennant and Hart as they storm towards Gallifrey?
It didn't hit every note, but I thoroughly enjoyed it and it's some of the finest television I've watched this year.
On a similar note, Night of the Doctor, Adventures in Time and Space and The 5-ish Doctors were all fantastic and perfectly complimented the actual episode. Especially AITAS, which I didn't expect to get so emotional. Very good stuff.
On a similar note, Night of the Doctor, Adventures in Time and Space and The 5-ish Doctors were all fantastic and perfectly complimented the actual episode. Especially AITAS, which I didn't expect to get so emotional. Very good stuff.
The Technomancer
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Yeah, I'm pretty well sick of that as well. It started happening around series 3 and its bugged me ever since, especially because it seems like as the "fanbase" grows the amount of it increases. Its pure indulgence.
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