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Doctor Who Series 2011 |OT| Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Stuff
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killer_clank
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infiniteloop said:
Wow.
It has to be a half truth though.
RepairmanJack
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infiniteloop said:
Speculation spoilers.
Can't it be assumed who it will be? River, Doctor, and Amy we all know will show up again? Unless it's like Rory last season.
The Elite
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HolyCheck said:
It's going to be hard to avoid considering it's on the cover of a magazine. Also, it gives away a plot point but not the plot itself or any detail behind
The person who is going to die.
Considering Amy, Rory and River have all "died" at some point over the past few years, I have to think it will be The Doctor "dying" in this episode. Of course, he will probably come back by episodes end. The only other person I can see "dying" is "River" but that will be very complicated in terms of continuity. I'm curious to see how they work it out.
RepairmanJack said:
Spoilers for later in the season:
Have we not seen Rory shooting some later season episodes?
Spotless Mind
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What a dumb spoiler to post on a cover.
Not that i really believe a death of any of them would be a long lasting development.
They look so much more menacing than the new Who version. Moffat needs to bring those designs back.infiniteloop said:
RepairmanJack
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DoctorWho said:
That's what I am not sure of. I think the only times in the previews I have seen Rory is when Amy is wearing the red checkered shirt. We already know how River dies, and Amy is mentioned in some of the other episodes synopsis isn't she? Unless, like you said, it will be the Doctor and he will come back in some way.
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RepairmanJack said:
All I know is that they can't do Rory or Amy so soon after killing them off once. At a certain point you completely lose the dramatic effect if you keep killing people off. So I think those two are safe. River's death would make sense since the universe has been rebooted and things may be different now. But that's still a long shot. And, it's The Doctor's show. He's died a bunch of times throughout the decades and always comes back so he's a safe bet since he could also be "the good man" who River kills.
RepairmanJack
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DoctorWho said:
Could be this. This has always been my thought as to what she did.
infiniteloop
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Quotes from Moffat (Big Spoilers for episode 1):
"We're not lying, we're not cheating: one of those four people is going to die!" Doctor Who showrunner @steven_moffat tells DWM.
"When I came up with this heart-wrenching twist, I thought 'We'll kill off one of the leads in the season opener.' It lures you in."
"When I came up with this heart-wrenching twist, I thought 'We'll kill off one of the leads in the season opener.' It lures you in."
StealthGoblin
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Really looking forward to this series.
If the Brilliant Book - teaser lines are anything to go by. . .awesome.
There are of course spoilers in there.
If the Brilliant Book - teaser lines are anything to go by. . .awesome.
There are of course spoilers in there.
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infiniteloop said:
I'm banking on
***RIVER***
From a financial and time aspect, she's someone who may be difficult to book around considering she gets work on a regular basis in the states. Also, like I said, killing Rory or Amy now wouldn't look right so soon after bringing both of them back. With River, they've gained some time and it would be a huge swerve that would setup the rest of the season if they killed her off right now. Don't forget "Time Can Be Re-Written" has been a huge plot point and it was also used for the upcoming season. I'm positive it's River.
RepairmanJack
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infiniteloop said:
Well I'm back to thinking it's Rory. I think all of what they went through last season for her to get him back and marry him to then lose him this quickly would be a heart-wrenching twist.
DoctorWho said:
But have we really gotten attached enough to River for it to be heart-wrenching? I mean I like her character, but I already know how she dies, I am more interesting and would have more of a response to finding out her past more than if she just dies.
Hot Coldman
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Well, who have we seen appear in the pirate ship episode? I've spotted the Doctor and Amy, but no-one else
The Elite
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RepairmanJack said:
I'd throw my Fez at the screen if it's Rory.
EDIT: Looking at the shooting schedule for later episodes:
Alex Kingston was seen on the set for episode seven. It's Rory. 
Then again:
Arthur Darvill isn't mentioned simply because he's considered a regular cast member now. So he could be in it too. Kingston could be a swerve. MY BRAIN HURTS!!
This is going to be awesome.
StealthGoblin
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I can't wait for the reveal of the big villain.
I'm going to be grinning like a motherfucker.
I'm going to be grinning like a motherfucker.
infiniteloop
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DoctorWho said:
I haven't seen
Rory NOT be in an episode for the all the upcoming episodes. he's definitely in Gattis' episode which is in the second half. Who ever it is there's got to be some timey wimey-ness involved.
infiniteloop
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true
Also, they're doing some screenings of the first episode today so if you read a spoiler review, please tag it properly.
Also, they're doing some screenings of the first episode today so if you read a spoiler review, please tag it properly.
From the discussion I've seen, and based upon the trailers,
the "Death" is Rory and Amy watching Ten regen into 11, which would still be true to the DWM cover and Moffat's quote.
And Rory Pond? WTF? What happened to Rory Williams? Is this a red herring, or did DWM make a typo?
Hot Coldman
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isny said:
HOLY SHIT IF TRUE
isny said:
If I were Rory I'd let her call me what she wants as long as I got to smang that
Gamer @ Heart
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Let's be honest. She is the man in the relationship.isny said:
Also, great theory and makes sense based on that scene in the trailer.
The Elite
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isny said:
Your first point:
I guess there would have to be a twist to the regeneration. I know Amy and Rory aren't familiar with the concept yet, but they'd have to throw the audience a swerve too. We need some reason to go back to it. I'd be excited to see what that is.
Moffat makes it sound like they aren't throwing a curve ball with this. What you described sounds like a cheat, a "curve ball".
As for your second point:
That's just a joke from The Big Bang.
infiniteloop
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I don't think the trailer clip with 9/10's TARDIS has anything to do with 10's regeneration. Doesn't look anything like it. Doctor Who fans have a crazy imagination.
StealthGoblin
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isny said:
Entirely believable because
we've already seen the older interior of the TARDIS
I've also heard about
some other interesting jumps in the doctors timeline regarding past assistants etc. Those are probably guff though
Hot Coldman
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Moffat may say they're playing it straight, but I'll come out and say it: he's probably lying.
infiniteloop said:
You should probably spoiler that.
It's clearly the old TARDIS, so it makes perfect sense that they "pop" in and see it just as he's full of light and changing, that way they can avoid using Ten, or they can even digitally matte his face in if need be. In regards to it not looking like the regen, we clearly didn't see the whole thing, as he blows up the TARDIS during part of it and it cuts away.
infiniteloop
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isny said:
It is the old TARDIS, but
that clip is from Gaiman's episode which was originally scheduled for S5, Tennant didn't burst into a big glowly sphere and the layout is different (the chairs aren't there).
It's like when Eccleston was in Series 3 because people "saw" him in the trailer.
Gamer @ Heart
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Whoa. That's some heavy sci fi.ultron87 said:
Gamer @ Heart
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I think that's it's typical tardis malfunctioning except that instead of going back in time, it's going
back in itself which leads up to gaimans episode where the doctors wife is the human manifestation of the tardis. That's who river learns to pilot the tardis so well from.
StealthGoblin
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ultron87 said:
I always felt that line was a peculiar line, but amazing for different reasons.
Firstly, Tennant had a very broad appeal and drew in a larger female audience. Hell, it got my mother watching Who again after it was cancelled many moons ago. That line basically tugged at the heart strings of all of the viewers as if it Tennant himself saying 'I don't want to go'. She was weeping, my sister was weeping and my brother and I were welling up.
Secondly, Tennant was the one to call time on his Who experience so it was essentially The Tenth Doctor saying he loved that particular incarnation. There was a lot of anguish in the delivery of that line.
Was really good. I think Matt Smith is the best Doctor in a very very long time though. He can pull of the wit, the randomness, the eccentricity and he really pulls it off as if this guy has been around for a very long time. Its simply great.
Gamer @ Heart
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I understand too. Give a happy ending to rose. But it was still creepy.DoctorWho said:
Gamer @ Heart
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Indeed. So many Deus ex machinas soured my impression of RTD despite all he acomished with Who.Nickiepoo said:
wind_steaker
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There are going to be spoilers all over the shop tonight as there is a press screening in a couple of hours so be warned!
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DoctorWho said:
I'm okay with this.
ultron87 said:
That was in a Doctor Who comic or something.
Until it was revealed it was actually an alien fucking up with the Doctor's mind. That was bullshit.
infiniteloop
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must ...resist.. spoilers
King of the Potato People
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Itll be interesting if
This would be timey wimey enough for Moffat. Of course, this is only mindless conjecture.
Amy was shooting a future version of herself and thats who dies.
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