Hot Coldman
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Holy shit that whole thing is amazing. "I can't control my friend here much longer." :lol
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Holy shit that whole thing is amazing. "I can't control my friend here much longer." :lol
KuwabaraTheMan
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Hartnell is great. He has a real edge to him that only a few other Doctors since have really had. He was a great anti-hero, compared to most of the later Doctors being more heroic characters.
I would say the biggest problem is more that you have too many different main characters working in disharmony, and none of them being well written.
The main problem with multi-Doctor stories in the past has generally been that the past Doctors wind up coming off like parodies of themselves at points. I think Troughton might use his recorder more times in The Three Doctors than he ever did in his entire original run, and Pertwee has many similar moments in the Five Doctors of going on about reversing the polarity and what not.
The Two Doctors is the only multi-Doctor story that ever really worked because it didn't try to cram too many Doctors in and actually treated Troughton's Doctor as being a real character rather than just a walking reference to past times of the show.
Hot Coldman
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Moffat has written for the last two Doctors (even if only 10 shows up) so at least one of the other Doctors should be handled correctly. Tennant also doesn't have too many quirks which helps, although I'd expect an "allons-y!".
Doesn't have a lot of quirks?
The Elite
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I don't necessarily want a "Time War" season but if they decided to end 11's run on a cliffhanger and then do a Season with 8 instead of jumping into 12, I'd be all for that.
You could tie the plot behind fall of the 11th into whatever the 8th is up to in the next season. It would be time wimey and fun!
What about the ninth Doctor?
An alternate universe version where the Doctor is played by women is speculated here.
http://www.scifind.com/features/the-other-11-doctors/
Some interesting choices, but Sue Perkins as the Doctor would have been wonderful.
http://www.scifind.com/features/the-other-11-doctors/
Some interesting choices, but Sue Perkins as the Doctor would have been wonderful.
Justice League Unlimited is a pretty cool show, and that was a super fun two-parter
The Elite
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I have the biggest crush on Sue Perkins.
And Suranne Jones.
I'm convinced Suranne can pull it off.
Hot Coldman
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None that seemed to get repeated constantly. Allons-y and "I'm so sorry" are all I can remember. Oh, and wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey.
...The point is, Moffat knows how to write Tennant
...The point is, Moffat knows how to write Tennant
I will give you that. He knew how to get the best of all three NuWho Doctors it seems.
How has nobody made 0:19-0:21 into a "deal with it" gif?
phisheep
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There's scope, I think (and hope), for a really good Tennant/Smith scene that gets deep into the what-it-feels-like-to-be-regenerated stuff. Tennant does regret well, Smith does "Wow, interesting" well. Some messing around with the difference between memory (sustained across regenerations) and character (not). And Tennant seeing for the first time what he regenerated into.
It would need to be short, and snappy, and deep, and maybe poignant - but I hope it can be pulled off.
Of course, it makes no fucking sense at all, but it could still be good.
I still miss Hartnell though. My first and best Doctor, because he did mysteriousness to perfection.
It would need to be short, and snappy, and deep, and maybe poignant - but I hope it can be pulled off.
Of course, it makes no fucking sense at all, but it could still be good.
I still miss Hartnell though. My first and best Doctor, because he did mysteriousness to perfection.
I'd say Sylv goes a bit further.
It takes the parallels a little too far - Julia Roberts being cast as the Mistress in the 8th Doctor's movie is a bit too implausible even for this, but then maybe in this universe Eric Roberts is the famous one!
I'm trying to work out if "Helen Baxendale working with Will Mellor on audio" is a reference to McGann working with Sheridan Smith (also from Two Pints, like Mellor) on recent audios, but that sort of gets confused when Sheridan herself appears later on.
GameplayWhore
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I had just resumed my marathon (after a few weeks ago watching the pilot) mere seconds before clicking at your url. Did I just spoil an episode by watching that, or was it a relatively minor point?
I just finished marathoning the entirety of Batman Beyond. That JLU episode was amazing the first time I saw it, but now that I know the characters it's so good.
I have this notion that early on in Who, especially with the First Doctor, the main characters were really the companions and the Doctor was a person of mystery that the stories revolved around. Now (especially with that last episode) it feels more like the main character is the Doctor, and the Companion is a person of mystery that the stories are revolving around. I rather liked it a little more the other way around.
Somehow, when I quasi-marathonned Classic Who a couple years ago (in the four months preceding the Pandorica, I think it was, using an episode list posted by some worldly GAFfer who has since regenerated into a new username), I managed to miss (or forgot) every single scene of Troughton playing a recorder. I honestly had no idea why he was doing it when I got to "The Five Doctors".
User 100115
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It's just one line in a fairly relevant plot point, hopefully it wasn't too spoilery >.< I'll label before I link from now one, please forgive.
Troughton's run in available form is so short. Maybe he used it more in the lost episodes.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Even in the missing episodes, I only remember Troughton taking out the recorder a couple of times. Almost every usage of it was in the return appearances later on.
GameplayWhore
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Hah, I'm not pointing blame. I generally know not to click on obfuscated links like that.
You know, I wish that they'd tie together real life quandries, like this "suddenly this was always his long-time habit" thing as well as the shifting "I.M. Forman" name, directly into canon (much like that fanwank I posted a few pages back). You know, the Doctor's past being changed, entire adventures being deleted from existence by some malevolent force. Americans capture him while he's visiting the Earth in the year 1996 and try to use alien DNA techniques to make him half human… >_>
peanutbutterlatte
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Hattie Jaques and Miriam Margoyles? Hell yes! Miranda Hart? Absolutely not. If we're going to have Marmite sitcom characters with no place being the Doctor chosen, then this;
APZonerunner
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I've been making a bit of a point of following the Blogtor Who top 50 Who stories - they're announcing their favourite 50, one a week until the 50th, and have been going for a bit now.
I haven't seen a lot of the old series, so I'm either rewatching episodes as they're announced or experiencing them for the first time. Recommended! It appears to be a very solid list.
Here's the link: http://blogtorwho.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-blogtor-who-top-50.html
So far:
50. The Ark
49. The Unicorn & The Wasp
48. The Dæmons
47. The War Games
46. The Keeper Of Traken
45. Spearhead From Space
44. Carnival of Monsters
43. The Android Invasion
42. The Fires of Pompeii
Minor potential monster spoiler for 7b, based on some newly announced toys:
They're releasing some stress balls (I know...) in the shape of various monster heads. The monsters featured on them are the Daleks, Cybermen, Silurians and
I haven't seen a lot of the old series, so I'm either rewatching episodes as they're announced or experiencing them for the first time. Recommended! It appears to be a very solid list.
Here's the link: http://blogtorwho.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/the-blogtor-who-top-50.html
So far:
50. The Ark
49. The Unicorn & The Wasp
48. The Dæmons
47. The War Games
46. The Keeper Of Traken
45. Spearhead From Space
44. Carnival of Monsters
43. The Android Invasion
42. The Fires of Pompeii
Minor potential monster spoiler for 7b, based on some newly announced toys:
They're releasing some stress balls (I know...) in the shape of various monster heads. The monsters featured on them are the Daleks, Cybermen, Silurians and
the Ice Warriors. The Ice Warrior head looks remarkably close to the old series design, but does feature elements that the old series prosthetic never had, like sharp teeth... so while this could well be a 'classic series' toy, this is probably a very conservative (RTD era Dalek conservative) redesign of them for 7b. People had speculated one of the shots in the trailer (Clara up against a wall with an scaled alien hand moving to grab her) was an Ice Warrior and... lookin' likely!
peanutbutterlatte
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How much of the old stuff is on Netflix (UK)? All of it?
APZonerunner
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A good chunk of the first and second Doctors for now, but they have updated it 3 or 4 times; it seems slowly but surely the back catalogue is going up. Netflix USA has a lot more, if you want to proxy in.
It is now my life's mission to kill you for birthing this idea into the universe.
peanutbutterlatte
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I'm using a friends Netflix account at the moment, is it still pretty easy to do? The fact US Netflix has more Doctor Who than us is beyond laughable.
Ahhh ye feckin' eejit.
APZonerunner
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Just one of these weird BBC things. Netflix USA had Series 5 before we even had the Tennant specials, and now we have those and Series 5 they have series 6.
Doing the Netflix thing the easiest way means paying a little for a VPN, but if you google about you can get a VPN for $5 a month or less. Netflix accounts are universal - if you went on holiday to the US the same login would work, for instance, but would bring up the US library - so all you're doing is tricking Netflix into thinking you're logging in from the US to see that region's content.
The eye-opener for me was during E3 last year, when I logged in on my iPad one evening in the hotel and had my mind blown at the difference in content. I keep a VPN and switch between US and UK Netflix just because the USA gets much newer stuff and more variety but the UK netflix has more UK shows (like Life on Mars, Peep Show etc), so it's worth trying for at least a month.
http://vpnfreedom.com/netflix/how-to-watch-us-netflix-in-the-uk/
Isn't that a man in drag?
Exterminieren
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Interesting rumours going round Gallifrey Base at the moment.
A Doctor Who display has been commissioned for the Blackpool Illuminations, featuring each incarnation of the Doctor and a companion each in their own TARDIS. The bulk of the display will be put up in August.
However, there have been twelve distinct TARDIS shells commissioned. Eleven are being put up in August, but the mysterious twelfth TARDIS is due to be rigged up in October. The GB poster who took the commission for the TARDIS shells has said that the interiors are being handled elsewhere, so he doesn't know exactly what each TARDIS will contain.
Interesting, no?
A Doctor Who display has been commissioned for the Blackpool Illuminations, featuring each incarnation of the Doctor and a companion each in their own TARDIS. The bulk of the display will be put up in August.
However, there have been twelve distinct TARDIS shells commissioned. Eleven are being put up in August, but the mysterious twelfth TARDIS is due to be rigged up in October. The GB poster who took the commission for the TARDIS shells has said that the interiors are being handled elsewhere, so he doesn't know exactly what each TARDIS will contain.
Interesting, no?
davidcotton
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Wouldn't that last one just be for the one from the recent christmas special? Can't see them doing ANOTHER one so soon.
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Exterminieren
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One TARDIS for each Doctor, not for each interior. For example, Eccleston and Tennant would have different TARDISes, even though they both used the same design.
APZonerunner
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Technically there's subtle differences anyway; if they were showing the insides, Tennant's TARDIS is lit much more brightly, with less greens and blues and more yellows and oranges, so that'd be relevant anyway.
That said, that is exciting! I doubt the twelfth is just the new one from The Snowmen, as if they're doing one TARDIS per Doctor it doesn't make sense for Matt to have two, and there's plenty of Doctors who have had more than one interior in the past... hmmm!
There was a lovely fan idea - not a spoiler but just some dude spitballing - that I sort of loved - the idea of the Doctor 'degenerating' throughout the special, going backwards through his regenerations, the process ageing them, too, adding the extra years onto each until he manages to 'fix' it and snaps back to 11. Would sort of be cool.
There's another rumour going around - that Patrick Troughton will appear in 'An Adventure in Space and Time' played by Reece Sheersmith. Sheersmith appeared at the BFI screening of Tomb of the Cybermen - a Troughton story - sitting next to Mark Gatiss, the writer of the docudrama. Those two are mates from their time on The League of Gentlemen, but it all does slot together fairly well. If true, this means they've recast two of the three Doctors no longer with us... they could easily be used elsewhere, hm?
infiniteloop
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Recasting would be a insult to the original actors, as Hurndall was. I can't see them doing it.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Agreed. Hurndall's role in The Five Doctors was pretty disgusting, and I think the BBC learned their lesson from that. Recasting the Doctors would be very shameful. Honor their memory and the role they had in the show, don't recast them.
but what if one of the actor were to die?
Hot Coldman
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I am willing to bet HARD FUCKING CASH the 12th Doctor makes his debut in the 50th Anniversary special, with Matt regenerating into 12 in the New Year.
it's pretty obvious.
That'd suck. I still haven't had enough Matt Smith episodes, and he JUST got a new companion.
HammerOfThor
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I kinda hope he regenerates back into Tennant.
Hot Coldman
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Yeah, too many signs pointing to it now. Also we know Moffat loves introducing major characters "earlier than they are supposed to show up".
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Isn't Matt signed through next year?
EleventhDoctor
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See?
Hot Coldman
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Yeah. I didn't say he'd leave during the Anniversary.
Speaking of previous Doctors coming back, I wouldn't mind seeing previous Doctors as a hologram or something, like this.
User 100115
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Hee.
No, we can't lose Matt yet
If he regenerates, we better get an awesome final line.
None of this "I don't want to go" bullshit.
Hot Coldman
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Can't wait for him to say "GERONIMO" and regenerate into Steve McFadden
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