Good Lord that is amazing.
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Good Lord that is amazing.
sonikokaruto
Banned
well the big bang was an awful finale.
eccleston i learned to like.
tennant i learned to like and felt super sad at the end. also rose tyler and donna noble.
matt smith and amy pond and rory: meh
something about matt doesn't work, sadly
That's not saying much.
equippedwithtowel
Member
The Big Bang > NotD
Deadly serious.
Deadly serious.
Exterminieren
Banned
If the first half an hour of The Big Bang didn't exist, I might agree.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
It is, and it isn't even close. The Big Bang at least occasionally attempts at having a dramatic structure and some semblance of characters and emotions. It marked the beginning of Moffat really getting up his own ass in terms of plotting and the constant death cheats, but it's not as egregiously terrible as The Name of the Doctor is.
Series 5's finale did have a solid emotional core, if nothing else. There was a bit too much bluster to the preceding for my liking, and too much time paradox bullshit, but I can at least appreciate it on some level.
Girl in the Fireplace: Poignantly characterized the Doctor and all his relationships with humans with a multilayered conclusion. I counted three levels of meaning to it. First, the explicit, where the Doctor loses someone he grew to care about. Second, the implicit, where Reinette is really a metaphor for every human the Doctor has ever loved. From his point of view, we humans are so fragile and fade so fast that he can't bear to part with us, and yet he keeps trying anyway. That desperation for a companion that could live in the same world as he is a driving force behind his character. Third, the prophetic, which is that because of the dangers and unreliability of time travel, the Doctor can easily and inadvertently "leave" his companions behind. A single simple mistake and his companions will suffer unimaginably for it, something that comes up again and again with his future companions.
The Empty Child: This one was more ambiance than anything else. Really written like a true horror story while other "horror" episodes seem more like B sci-fi thrillers.
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead: I liked the implications of River's character (this was before I found out she was recurring) and it was something really new in the series. The Doctor says "that's impossible!" a lot and pretends to be all caught off guard but with River he was really out of his element for once, all the way through to the end.
Compared to S5 and S6E1/S6E2:
The Eleventh Hour: First half with kid Amy was really good, but it fell off in the second half. Kind of dragged down by the fact that it was a "Doctor Who introductory episode" and that Amy and Rory are Rose and Micky 2.0.
The Beast Below: Very good ideas and imagery. Shoddy execution.
The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone: I will forever hate these two epsiodes for ruining the beauty of the angels by adding all kinds of bullshit abilities and ignoring established canon.
The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang: This was a good finale at least, I liked the idea of history happening "all at once".
The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon: The Silence are like the Weeping Angels and this episode was a lot like Blink so Moffat gets points for that. Also good cinematography. Probably the closest to what I think is his best work.
equippedwithtowel
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If ghost River Song + The Whispermen and another fucking repeat of the same stakes hadn't happened I could endorse NotD.
The Big Bang's biggest flaw is the lack of anything but a handwave towards the TARDIS exploding in the first place, and that's on S6.
21st century cowboy
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I don't know if this has been mentioned but it seems amazon has a series 1-7 blu ray box set for doctor who
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EZ6VZGS/
I'll be pretty annoyed if there isn't also a series 1-4 blu ray box set as I'm sure like most of you on here. I have series 5 and 6 on blu ray already. Plus they are the special editions.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EZ6VZGS/
I'll be pretty annoyed if there isn't also a series 1-4 blu ray box set as I'm sure like most of you on here. I have series 5 and 6 on blu ray already. Plus they are the special editions.
Someone posted it a few pages back.
I'm curious to see how much work they put into series 1-4, considering those weren't filmed natively in HD.
If it's anything like The Next Doctor on blu-ray, I might pass on an individual series set.
+ the great intelligence was probably the most anodyne and uninteresting main villain I can remember.
You gotta cut him some slack in that department, Davies already used all the cool enemies.
With you 100%. Name of the Doctor did nothing for me, personally.
My favourite Moffat finales go in order of broadcast; Big Bang favourite, Wedding second place, Name in third.
Even if they're just 480i transfers to blu, the expanded bitrate would make for a huge image quality improvement. DVD video is such a horrifically lossy format thanks to its small file capacity.
21st century cowboy
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I'd probably buy a 1 -4 blu ray boxset for £30, even if it was of great quality.
Exterminieren
Banned
Matt's on location, and the wig looks fine.
killer_clank
Member
any pics?
killer_clank
Member
yup, panic over, it looks fine.
I think I said at the time that that episode, more than perhaps any other, really really felt like Old Who.
[The Beast Below]
But Keith Boak had nothing to do with it!
MisterNegative
Banned
Omega/Sutek. Or he could make some up..?
Spot on (unfortunately). I feel like Davis was absolutely the better showrunner (something I had a bad feeling about going into the switch). Moffat always seems like one of those types that can be absolutely amazing in short bursts. Season 5 was spectacular and the decline since then has been noticeable.
It makes me sad to see Matt Smith go, because he's a damn good Doctor Who and the problems certainly aren't with their lead.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Rings is an episode that skates by for me on almost purely aesthetic reasons, but its so excellent at it that I'm satisfied. It feels not just like Old Who but also like some of the RTD era episodes like The End of the World or New Earth
Its the one thing that I really feel the last three seasons have lacked: they have dropped off on the "look at human civilization in the future" episodes hard. Hell, I'm hard pressed to think of even one. The closest we get might be the Rebel Flesh episodes. But the show has very decidedly turned away from looking at the future, focusing instead on present day, famous past, or vague indeterminate space location (The Girl Who Waited, The God Complex)
Outside of The Beast Below that is, which, as we've established, sucks
You guys did not estabilish shit 
Beast Below is great. It has a good twist, it taps into the usual human bullshit that we assume that everything around us is hostile to us the same way that we are hostile to anything around us, it has angry Doctor, it shows an active Amy, and it manages to be creepy in the first few minutes as well.
Beast Below is great. It has a good twist, it taps into the usual human bullshit that we assume that everything around us is hostile to us the same way that we are hostile to anything around us, it has angry Doctor, it shows an active Amy, and it manages to be creepy in the first few minutes as well.BrokenFiction
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You guys did not estabilish shit
Thank you! Count me in as a Beast Below fan as well. It's definitely a solid "introduce the companion to the universe story".
Exterminieren
Banned
The slate for the Fiftieth has been announced.
The Day of the Doctor- 75 minute special w. Matt Smith, David Tennant and John Hurt, BBC One
An Adventure in Time and Space, BBC Two
Brian Cox lecture on the science of Who, BBC Two
Culture Show special, BBC Two
Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
Who is the Doctor: 90-minute Radio 2 documentary
Rerun of An Unearthly Child, BBC Four
Not a bad little lineup.
The Day of the Doctor- 75 minute special w. Matt Smith, David Tennant and John Hurt, BBC One
An Adventure in Time and Space, BBC Two
Brian Cox lecture on the science of Who, BBC Two
Culture Show special, BBC Two
Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
Who is the Doctor: 90-minute Radio 2 documentary
Rerun of An Unearthly Child, BBC Four
Not a bad little lineup.
MisterNegative
Banned
are there any trailers ?
Hot Coldman
Banned
The Day of the Doctor? Pretty good name. 75 minutes though, thought it was gonna be 90... ah well, good enough!
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Yeah, I liked The Beast Below. I haven't watched it since it first aired, but I think I had some slight problems with the resolution but otherwise enjoyed it.
Oh, excellent. 75 minutes is fantastic.
Oh, excellent. 75 minutes is fantastic.
infiniteloop
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Hopefully this is just Cox laughing for 60 minutes.
You're not. I thought it was cringeworthy.
And I ordinarily dig Matt going epic. But it probably would've worked better given a context that wasn't so awful in the first place - I think its impact was dragged down by that ghastly episode.
King of the Potato People
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'Day of the Doctor' I guess it's not referring to just any day... the day HurtDoctor did it?
APZonerunner
Member
75 minutes, "movie length" indeed. I'm fine with 75 minutes, for the record, and it's 15 more than we otherwise might have got but I just think it's bollocks Moffat has been throwing around the word movie repeatedly about a 75-minuter.
Brian Cox thing should be fun. He's a fan.
Brian Cox thing should be fun. He's a fan.
King of the Potato People
Member
Mmm, closing all Z-neutrino relay loops using an internalised synchronous feedback reversal loop
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
The Elite
BOSS
That's some good hair.
Hot Coldman
Banned
what is that face
It is called real life. People do stuff with their faces!
Hot Coldman
Banned
Oh, really? Boy, thank you for enlightening me!
I thought it was a cute picture. That's all.
Actually, it confirmed for me that she is physically incapable of ever looking bad. Ever. :O
Hot Coldman
Banned
I was thinking she'll be welcome next to Capaldi. (Not that Capaldi looks bad, but... you know. Older guy and all.)
Worthintendo
Member
I like how her top looks like it has little bowties on it
peanutbutterlatte
Member
So by "movie length" they meant "animated Disney movie length"? Crazy that End of Time got almost double that, and this is intended to be the biggest Who celebration since the reboot. Ah well. 75 minutes of Tennant, Smith and Hurt awesome isn't bad. I'm not expecting the actual plot to be that solid by the way, I do think they're going to focus on the characters instead. The Time War isn't even Moffat's bag. Ideal situation is that the Christmas special follows on directly from it.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Sorry, we're fresh out of that. How would you like a steaming hot dish of the BBC's entire yearly budget poured into CGI footage of the Daleks fucking up London.. again?
If it's done right, it could be brilliant. The CGI has improved greatly since Nine and Ten departed, no doubt because of the part involvement of BBC America. I daresay BBC America are involved again, to some degree, as the 50th is a pretty damn important event.
peanutbutterlatte
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Just hope they get that balance right! And to be honest, I'm being unfair. The last time Daleks invaded Earth, they invaded... a suburb in outer London. Oh and a forest in Germany.
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