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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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Shiv47

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Troughton's awesome because he plays the "I'm going to make you think I'm a clown and then punk you" tactic to perfection. And he's funny, and he, Jamie and Zoe were a classic team.
 
Soo hype :D

More excited for these to be found than the 50th

I've seen all but 3 Troughton serials that have been released (Seeds of Doom, The Krotons & The Dominators), I really like what I have seen and I almost want to call him my favourite. Easily in my top 3.

I really hope I get to see his Dalek stories
 

Shiv47

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Soo hype :D

More excited for these to be found than the 50th

I've seen all but 3 Troughton serials that have been released (Seeds of Doom, The Krotons & The Dominators), I really like what I have seen and I almost want to call him my favourite. Easily in my top 3.

I really hope I get to see his Dalek stories

Well, the latter two of those you named are real duds, but Seeds of Doom is quality. The narrated soundtracks to the lost stories that the BBC have released are well worth checking out
unless they've found them all
.
 
Well, the latter two of those you named are real duds, but Seeds of Doom is quality. The narrated soundtracks to the lost stories that the BBC have released are well worth checking out
unless they've found them all
.
Yeah thats kinda why I haven't watched them yet, I do have the DVD's sitting there to be watched, but just not got around to them yet.
 

8bit

Knows the Score
I somehow ended up on Ian Levines twitter, I may need a lava shower. Anyway, he seems to think there's 9 to come tomorrow and more secreted away for later release assuming people don't pirate them and a profit is made.

Also, Gallifrey Base has shut down any conversation about missing episodes until whatever press release is made tomorrow.
 
I somehow ended up on Ian Levines twitter, I may need a lava shower. Anyway, he seems to think there's 9 to come tomorrow and more secreted away for later release assuming people don't pirate them and a profit is made.

Also, Gallifrey Base has shut down any conversation about missing episodes until whatever press release is made tomorrow.

This annoyed me. What's the point of having a niche forum if you can't engage in fanwank speculation?
 
Nah, just the people who own Gallifrey Base are properly smitten with getting attention from the BBC and so they do whatever the BBC tells them to, including operating a police state attitude to spoilers and things the BBC doesn't want out. It's bollocks really.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
I don't really get why they're so adamant on getting people not talking about Who, in the 50th year anniversary no less. So much for this Moffat quote from 2012:

"We've got an awful lot of stuff to announce before [the 50th anniversary]. We don't aim to have one event, over a year in the future - we want to make Doctor Who an event every single week. And we're going to pull that off, so... patience!"
 

gabbo

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I don't really get why they're so adamant on getting people not talking about Who, in the 50th year anniversary no less. So much for this Moffat quote from 2012:

"We've got an awful lot of stuff to announce before [the 50th anniversary]. We don't aim to have one event, over a year in the future - we want to make Doctor Who an event every single week. And we're going to pull that off, so... patience!"

Moffat has shown he writes cheques his Doctor Who can't cash in the past, this is merely another example
 

Raydeen

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I have a man in the know and it's definate, 100% we are in for treats soon...

Frazer Hines and Debbie Watling appearing at the conference is the icing on the cake, there be Troughtoney goodness coming! :)
 

mclem

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Okay, it's a massively overused meme, but nevertheless, this made me chuckle:

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I have little problem with Moffat's off-the-cuff comments in interviews not panning out. I mean... that "all year round" quote was two years ago. Plans change, things fall through. I see very little reason to keep hauling him over the coals for it.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
I have little problem with Moffat's off-the-cuff comments in interviews not panning out. I mean... that "all year round" quote was two years ago. Plans change, things fall through. I see very little reason to keep hauling him over the coals for it.
I agree, I'm not trying to hold it against him. I posted it only to add to my point that they keep going out of their way to make people not talk about the series, like in the Gallifrey Base bit APZone posted about and such. What I have a beef with is the entire "don't talk about Doctor Who until we release something, except we won't release anything lol" (e.g. the 50th trailer). I thought the 50th year of the series was supposed to be a celebration but it's October already and it didn't feel like it imo. I can understand not wanting spoilers out but some of the posturing since Comic Con has been grating to me. Anyway, the Special is next month so we'll finally see how it goes.
 

Petrichor

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I agree, I'm not trying to hold it against him. I posted it only to add to my point that they keep going out of their way to make people not talk about the series, like in the Gallifrey Base bit APZone posted about and such. What I have a beef with is the entire "don't talk about Doctor Who until we release something, except we won't release anything lol". I thought the 50th year of the series was supposed to be a celebration but it's October already and it didn't feel like it imo. I can understand not wanting spoilers out but the some of the posturing since Comic Con has been grating to me. Anyway, the Special is next month so we'll finally see how it goes.

I've heard they're premiering the 50th anniversary trailer on children in need (15/11/2013).

lol - I'm being facetious but actually at this rate it wouldn't surprise me.
 

isny

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I've heard they're premiering the 50th anniversary trailer on children in need (15/11/2013).

lol - I'm being facetious but actually at this rate it wouldn't surprise me.

I believe you Pachter. Everything you says comes true... =p
 

mclem

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Nah, just the people who own Gallifrey Base are properly smitten with getting attention from the BBC and so they do whatever the BBC tells them to, including operating a police state attitude to spoilers and things the BBC doesn't want out. It's bollocks really.

Except the Beeb didn't tell them to.

Steven W. Hill said:
You're wrong, we've had no contact from anyone at the BBC about any of this - not any time since it started, in fact.
 

8bit

Knows the Score
Sounds like there's a screening of something going on around about now, but press is embargoed until midnight.
 

Petrichor

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Sounds like there's a screening of something going on around about now, but press is embargoed until midnight.

I can't imagine they're going to debut the trailer for at least another two weeks now - they'll want whovians focusing on spending money on these recovered classic episodes in lieu of anticipating the 50th.
 

mclem

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Sounds like there's a screening of something going on around about now, but press is embargoed until midnight.

Supposedly - and this is 'heard from a guy on the internet', so take with an appropriately large pinch of salt - the press conference/screening is from 3:30 to 7pm. I've only heard suggestions of a press embargo, not a statement, but there has been mention that they don't want people tweeting from within the streaming.

All is just hearsay, but strikes me as plausible.
 
I can't imagine they're going to debut the trailer for at least another two weeks now - they'll want whovians focusing on spending money on these recovered classic episodes in lieu of anticipating the 50th.
Well as an old school fan, I'm more excited about old episodes than the while 50th trailer :D
 
I can't imagine they're going to debut the trailer for at least another two weeks now - they'll want whovians focusing on spending money on these recovered classic episodes in lieu of anticipating the 50th.

he;s talking about the recovered episodes, there's supposed to be a press conference today.
 

8bit

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Supposedly - and this is 'heard from a guy on the internet', so take with an appropriately large pinch of salt - the press conference/screening is from 3:30 to 7pm. I've only heard suggestions of a press embargo, not a statement, but there has been mention that they don't want people tweeting from within the streaming.

All is just hearsay, but strikes me as plausible.

@Gaytimesmag tweeted about an hour ago : We're at a very, very special screening #missingepisodes

And Benjamin Cook tweeted about the same time : Gonna go watch some #DoctorWho. No reason.

‏@classicdw : We're thrilled to be at VERY special screening event. We'll bring you more info soon... #doctorwho #missingepisodes

‏@fds_gavin 4m The #DoctorWho #MissingEpisodes press conference has begun. Hope someone's filming it. And that they don't then accidentally wipe the tape.

So there seems to be something going on just now.

As to an embargo : @Telegraph_TV Good news. The Doctor Who missing episodes embargo will lift at midnight tonight!
 

Lynd7

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After this buildup I hope they reveal their entire hand. It'd be annoying if they hinted that they had more, or left it without giving a definite number of recovered episodes.
 
Supposedly the announcement today was that the missing episodes of Enemy of the World and 4 from Web of Fear (1 was already in the archive, episode 3 still missing) have been returned with "more to come".
 
Supposedly the episodes hit iTunes and other similar services at midnight, so news sources can say available now and they can get maximum possible impulse buys from people reading the news and going looking right away. That's the point, I believe.
 
This article says web of fear is complete... but later that episode 3 is still missing.

The Web of Fear is one of the most missed serials.

But now all six missing episodes have been found - in a dusty storeroom in Nigeria.

The previously lost nine shows were among 11 traced to a television relay station and the find brings back to life an entire six-episode story, while another is almost complete.

The newly found programmes - which introduce the character of Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart, better known to audiences as The Brigadier - will be available on iTunes from today and will later come out on DVD.

Phillip Morris, the director of Television International Enterprises Archive, unearthed the programmes by looking up the records of overseas shipments of tapes made by the BBC.

The stories, The Enemy Of The World (1967) and The Web Of Fear (1968) and both starring Patrick Troughton as the second Doctor, have now been remastered by BBC Worldwide, the corporation’s commercial arm.


Mr Morris said: ‘‘I remember wiping the dust off the masking tape on the canisters and my heart missed a beat as I saw the words Doctor Who. When I read the story code, I realised I’d found something pretty special.’’ Only one episode of The Enemy Of The World - which featured Deborah Watling as companion Victoria and Frazer Hines, later to find fame in Emmerdale as Jamie - had remained in the archives, so the addition of programmes one, two, four, five and six have completed the story.

Fiona Eastwood, director of consumer products, BBC Worldwide, said: ‘‘We are thrilled with the recent discovery of The Web Of Fear and The Enemy Of The World and we’re very happy to be launching re-mastered versions of these treasured episodes to fans as we celebrate the 50th year of Doctor Who.’’ The BBC still had the first edition in the Web Of Fear story, and the new finds mean only number three is missing. The tale introduced Nicholas Courtney as Lethbridge-Stewart, who began with the rank of Colonel but later became Brigadier.

The missing episode has been recreated using 37 still images which were available and the original audio which survived.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10732000._Lost__Dr_Who_serial_found_gathering_dust_abroad/
 

Shiv47

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So the rumors of Enemy and Web were true, which is awesome. Will be nice to see Troughton playing the double role in Enemy at last, and Web of Fear is historic Who, with the intro of the Brigadier. Aside from the Dalek stories, hard to ask for better Troughton choices. I saw on Twitter that Ian Levine is convinced that the guy who found these found more, so here's hoping. Amazing that after all the work that's gone into searching for eps all these years that someone can dust off (at least) two whole stories in 2013.
 
What the fuck is the point of an embargo on something like this?

There is none.

Might be a way to time the release of information to get the best exposure.

Just to play devil's advocate (I work in media relations) the midnight embargo is an important tool to maxmise publicity.

It means that the daily papers on Friday won't feel 'scooped' by Thursday's TV/Radio news programmes and online news websites and so will give the story a much higher profile in their pages. It also means the story will be higher up the running order for breakfast TV and radio bulletins on Friday morning (breakfast radio, in particular, gets massive listening figures compared to the rest of the day).

So while it is annoying, it will mean the story will get bigger coverage in Friday's papers and be heard by peak radio audiences Friday morning too. So the midnight embargo actually gives the story more gravitas which - in some ways - is a good thing.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=69117210#post69117210
 
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