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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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DrForester

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Found this over on the Rifftrax forums.

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If not Cumberbatch, I do like the idea someone posted of Jason Isaacs as The Master. A coworker was telling me that Kenneth Branagh wanted to do it at some point. That would be cool too.
 

Mariolee

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If not Cumberbatch, I do like the idea someone posted of Jason Isaacs as The Master. A coworker was telling me that Kenneth Branagh wanted to do it at some point. That would be cool too.

Ooh, that'd be a good choice. But I think with Smith's youthful age Isaacs would look way too old and out of place.
 
If not Cumberbatch, I do like the idea someone posted of Jason Isaacs as The Master. A coworker was telling me that Kenneth Branagh wanted to do it at some point. That would be cool too.

I think Jason Isaacs is a great actor and would nail it as The Master, but I selfishly wouldn't want him to play the role because I hate how often he's cast as a villain.

Kenneth Branagh would probably be a great Master, as well, but for dream casting I'm going to continue picturing Martin Freeman in the role, simmering with uncontrollable rage and aggression just beneath the surface of his quiet, disdainful manner.
 
It never is stated, but one could assume if they had it, they would use it.

It's been implied in the past that this and one's ability to read any language is as much a part of the TARDIS as anything else, and if you stop travelling the ability to do so fades and then goes entirely. So maybe she has a call or two in it, but then it'll stop working due to being seperated from its intergalactic power source for too long.

This is never explicitly stated in the show, but implied and then confirmed through other mediums. A decent example is on Earth - Amy, Rory and Mels all hear English when they land in Germany in Lets Kill Hitler, but in Journey's End Martha lands in Germany and hears German or German-accented people speaking English naturally because she's travelling without the TARDIS and hasn't been doing so for months. This whole thing is explained in some detail in that kid-friendly Who encyclopaedia they put out every year or two if I remember right, and it's there they say the phones are the same situation.

It works for Christopher Nolan.

It technically worked for RTD too - Ecclestone, Tennant - but a ton of others - Skye in Midnight, Harriet Jones, Jackie Tyler, blah blah - tons and tons of the people cast in his era are people from his old shows. Half of the cast of Queer as Folk and Bob & Rose are in New Who. There's a simialr cross-polination across all his shows. Ianto and Owen from Torchwood were in other shows of his.

Moffat doesn't seem like he does this really, as in three years he hasn't cast one person from Sherlock or Jekyll or Coupling or whatever, even though there's plenty of fantastic and familiar talent to draw from. I don't think it'll be Cumberbatch. I'm sure there's a role for him in Who one day, but not while Sherlock is an ongoing concern.
 
We did get Rupert Graves in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, but you're right, it's not a big habit of Moffat's. Unfortunate, because he's worked with some great actors.
 
One person! I forgot about Graves, really. He plays a very different sort of character. His character in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship reminded me of the Thatcherite businessman he played in Ashes to Ashes more than Lestrade!

There's probably a good reason behind it as well - in The Writer's Tale, RTD notes the major difference between he and Moffat in their scripts is that RTD keeps his straightforward, while Moffat's are always full of jokes and nods and references to the cast/crew. He said he couldn't do that, as when he writes Rose, or Donna, or whoever, he sees the character as originally envisioned before casting - he doesn't think "I'm writing this for Catherine", just "I'm writing Donna." I think if he's injecting the in-jokes and stuff, Moffat's probably doing the opposite style, right? Which means if he did write Cumberbatch, perhaps too much of Sherlock would sneak in. Maybe that's why he's staying away.

I was one of the 'Paterson Joseph for 11th Doctor' people after Jekyll and when the rumours showed up. He'd make an amazing Master too, I reckon.
 
Mark Gatiss, who played Dr. Lazarus in S3 of Who, also plays Mycroft Holmes in Sherlock. He also seems to have done some minor work for Moffat-run Who.
 
Mark Gatiss, who played Dr. Lazarus in S3 of Who, also plays Mycroft Holmes in Sherlock. He also seems to have done some minor work for Moffat-run Who.

Minor work? He's one of the biggest creative forces driving Sherlock, and is one of Moffat's most trusted deputies on Who. He primarily works for the shows as a writer; he wrote The Unquiet Dead, The Idiot's Lantern, Victory of the Daleks, Night Terrors, two episodes for series 7b and is writing the Road to Doctor Who drama for BBC2 next year, and is co-creator of Sherlock as well as writer of The Great Game and The Hounds of Baskerville.

I think he was also that Viking member of the Silence in The Wedding of River Song.
 
I meant as an actor on the show. I probably could've mentioned that he was a regular Moffat collaborator, in which case yeah, "minor" has no place in his role on team Moffat.
 

gabbo

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I wasn't kidding when i quoted "the Alec Trevelyan concept" to imply I think Sean Bean could do an excellent Master.
 
Mark Gatiss, who played Dr. Lazarus in S3 of Who, also plays Mycroft Holmes in Sherlock. He also seems to have done some minor work for Moffat-run Who.

He's arguably very different. Sherlock is 50% his and he's the most likely heir to the Who throne when Moffat goes; he's written episodes in several series' and appeared in three of them in some form or another, and like Moffat and RTD was involved in the expanded Who universe when the show was off the air. He and Moffat do have a history - he's in Jekyll as well, briefly - but most of his roles are only cameos - in Jekyll, the 'Live Chess' guy and Danny Boy in Moffat's Who... he's never really in a 'proper' role. Sherlock is a larger role but, again... Gatiss kind of wrote it for himself.
 
You'd be surprised at how many people involved in New Who did Expanded Universe material during the Wilderness Years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_New_Adventures#List_of_Virgin_New_Adventures Just check the authors.

I didn't know Paul Cornell wrote so extensively for the series before his stuff got on TV (Father's Day and Human Nature/Family of Blood). That's pretty awesome.

Also, I didn't know the Bernice Summerfield series was still going on. Also awesome.
 

CorvoSol

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It's a split Time-Line, guys! That's the answer! When Amy sent Eleven back in time to talk to her child-self, Eleven warned her about the trip with the Angels in Manhattan, and she never went, and it triggered THREE SEPARATE TIME LINES!

1.)The one Amy sent the Doctor from, hereafter called the ADULT TIMELINE.
2.)The one where the Doctor warned Amy and prevented the Manhattan episode, called THE BEST TIMELINE.
3.)The one where Rory died in the Manhattan episode that was destroyed by the paradox called THE WHO DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING TIMELINE?

But don't worry guys! Twelve will zig-zag between time and space and knit all three timelines together after getting how terrible humans are to the environment hammered into his head like a million times!

Then, as Thirteen, he'll go back in time and bang his mom on a hoverboard!
 

The Technomancer

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It's a split Time-Line, guys! That's the answer! When Amy sent Eleven back in time to talk to her child-self, Eleven warned her about the trip with the Angels in Manhattan, and she never went, and it triggered THREE SEPARATE TIME LINES!

1.)The one Amy sent the Doctor from, hereafter called the ADULT TIMELINE.
2.)The one where the Doctor warned Amy and prevented the Manhattan episode, called THE BEST TIMELINE.
3.)The one where Rory died in the Manhattan episode that was destroyed by the paradox called THE WHO DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING TIMELINE?

But don't worry guys! Twelve will zig-zag between time and space and knit all three timelines together after getting how terrible humans are to the environment hammered into his head like a million times!

Then, as Thirteen, he'll go back in time and bang his mom on a hoverboard!

What abotu the timeline where the Doctor dies, forcing them to establish some kind of tunnel in time, a...a link to the past, if you will.
 

EndcatOmega

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Shearman's audio 'Jubilee' is actually better than 'Dalek' from 2005, though the latter's only a pretty loose adaption. Still better than the Age of Steel two parter which had nothing in common with its inspiration except 'Cybermen', which hasn't exactly been a recipe for success in TV stories before or since.
 

RetroMG

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Shearman's audio 'Jubilee' is actually better than 'Dalek' from 2005, though the latter's only a pretty loose adaption. Still better than the Age of Steel two parter which had nothing in common with its inspiration except 'Cybermen', which hasn't exactly been a recipe for success in TV stories before or since.

I'll second that Jubilee is awesome, But the one thing that Dalek has over it IMO is that Dalek's characters all have understandable motivations. The only understandable motivation for half of the characters in Jubilee is Insanity.

That being said, the opening to Jubilee with the movie about the Doctor as a badass action hero is possibly one of my favorite things in all of Who.
 

EndcatOmega

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I'll second that Jubilee is awesome, But the one thing that Dalek has over it IMO is that Dalek's characters all have understandable motivations. The only understandable motivation for half of the characters in Jubilee is Insanity.

Ah, well, insanity's not a the worst motivation! But yeah, Dalek has its improvements and is still one of the best episodes of the relaunch and probably before. Though in Dalek, it's the ending that has the Doctor acting like an action hero!
 

Quick

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It's been easy so far. I have a few shows lined up to watch, including a run through Doctor Who (Eccleston to Smith), so I should be okay for now.
 

Htown

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But when the Silence tell you something it's supposed to be a suggestion that your mind takes as a command.

But their nature makes you forget them after you see them.

So if a Silent commands you to remember him, do you forget because you always forget Silents or do you remember because you always follow their suggestions?
 
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