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[wafflecioccy]

Just trying to help my man. I wasnt aware you'd already played your backlog.

Weird way of helping by shitting on other people's games

 

[clarky]

Weird way of helping by shitting on other people's games

Just offering an opinion of certian titles you have lined up to play.

My apologies if you find that offensive.

 

[wafflecioccy]

Just offering an opinion of certian titles you have lined up to play.

My apologies if you find that offensive.

If you're actually trying to help, maybe don't lead with dismissiveness. There's a way to share opinions without coming off disrespectful.

If your goal really was to help, then leading with "half your backlog is garbage" probably wasn't the best way to go about it.

 

[damidu]

Just trying to help my man. I wasnt aware you'd already played your backlog.

if you are praising TDA, you don't get to talk about mediocre lol, get some self awareness

 

[clarky]

If you're actually trying to help, maybe don't lead with dismissiveness. There's a way to share opinions without coming off disrespectful.

If your goal really was to help, then leading with "half your backlog is garbage" probably wasn't the best way to go about it.

Sorry long day.

Its is though. Doom is much better.

 

[clarky]

if you are praising TDA, you don't get to talk about mediocre lol, get some self awareness

Good one. lol.

 

[wafflecioccy]

Its is though. Doom is much better.

Again, your opinion. Neither right nor wrong.

The only objective truth in that statement are the graphics are better in Doom.

Besides, I also have
System Shock Remake, Thief, Tekken, Guardians of the Galaxy, Halo MCC, Furi, Firewatch etc to play.

Point is - i have a lot to play.

 

[M.W.]

Not worth the performance hit, at all.

 

[clarky]

Not worth the performance hit, at all.

Depends on what card you have. If your struggling for frames then yeah I'd agree. But if you have one of the newer cards why wouldn't you turn it on?

It looked pretty good before, it is a noticeable difference for the first couple of levels replayed earlier.

 

[wafflecioccy]

Not worth the performance hit, at all.

I disagree - I haven't tried it but if I get 60fps with PT on, on my 4080 at 1440p DLSS Q I'd say it's worth it.

 

[damidu]

Depends on what card you have. If your struggling for frames then yeah I'd agree. But if you have one of the newer cards why wouldn't you turn it on?

because its only playable with FG, and FG is artifacts and ghostings galore as usual.

 

[M.W.]

Depends on what card you have. If your struggling for frames then yeah I'd agree. But if you have one of the newer cards why wouldn't you turn it on?

It looked pretty good before, it is a noticeable difference for the first couple of levels replayed earlier.

I assume you would need frame gen to get a stable framerate? The added input lag and artifacting = pass for me.

 

[wafflecioccy]

I assume you would need frame gen to get a stable framerate?

You don't

 

[clarky]

because its only playable with FG, and FG is artifacts and ghostings galore as usual.

Incorrect on both points.

I assume you would need frame gen to get a stable framerate? The added input lag and artifacting = pass for me.

With a 5090/4090 you will get above 60 without. but at that kind of base Input lag is not noticeable at x2 nor can you see any artifacting (in my experience)

 

[Jibran#one]

5 percent graphics improvement 50 percent graphics impact

 

[wafflecioccy]

5 percent graphics improvement 50 percent graphics impact

you mean framerate impact?

 

[damidu]

Incorrect on both points.

nah it is there, you dont even know where to look and try to lecture people on path tracing,
point your gun towards the ground run around and watch it ghost all around.

 

[clarky]

nah it is there, you dont even know where to look and try to lecture people on path tracing,
point your gun towards the ground run around and watch it ghost all around.

You said it was only playable with framegen on, thats incorrect.

You then claimed with framegen on its artifacts and ghosting galore. Again thats simply not true.

Quit with the bullshit.

 

[yamaci17]

It's actually similar. RT Overdrive at 4K native in Cyberpunk nets you 30-35fps on a 5090. Same performance in DOOM The Dark Ages at the same resolution.

yeah i can confirm

default nightmare difficulty, 1440p dlss performance with dlss 4 ray reconstruction (quite heavy on older GPUs). reflex is also enabled of course (which reduces GPU performance a bit as well)


i was getting similar performance at 1440p dlss performance in cyberpunk 2077. performance is almost identical. however this one has more stable frametimes. then again dogtown is more dense and detailed so there's that



(obviously recording takes around 10% performance)

it was a fun experiment but yeah, for most it will be unplayable. i will probably do a replay at 1080p dlss quality when and if they add DLCs (gets 36+ fps consistently). it looks fine on my 1080p screen but not on 1440p/4K screens so there's that. you can also imagine if i had a GPU with a multi frame generation I'd probably enjoy using it even at 40 FPS lol

as a final bonus, more challenging last chapter with similar low framerates

 

[MikeM]

Tried it on my 9070xt. Lol… 30fps or so at 1440p native.

 

[wafflecioccy]

Tried it on my 9070xt. Lol… 30fps or so at 1440p native.

DLSS/FSR is obligatory for path tracing

 

[Shane89]

standard RT looks garbage.

 

[yogaflame]

May I ask what is the difference between RTGI and path-tracing?

 

[marjo]

because its only playable with FG, and FG is artifacts and ghostings galore as usual.

That's factually incorrect. I was getting over 70 fps with my 5070ti @ 1440p with DLSS at balanced and everything cranked all the way up. Any card better than a 4070 can play with path tracing without framegen @ >6t0fps with the right settings.

Also, FG doesn't produce any visible artifacts with a high enough base frame rate.

 

[Bojji]

I just read the Gamegpu benchmark, and damn! This is easily the most demanding PT game right now. To get 80 fps on the RTX 4080, I would need to run 1440p with DLSS Q and FGx2 on top of that. For comparison, Cyberpunk with similar settings runs at 120 fps. I might experiment with PT just to see how significant the difference is, but I will most likely turn it off.

Game has some inflated results for Blackwell (like HL2 remix) - clearly Nvidia sponsored. 5070 better than 4070ti super?

Looks like a waste of time and performance given how it looks compared to vanilla RT...

 

[The Cockatrice]

You think Microsoft told id to move their engine forward the way they had planned to do so after the development of Doom Eternal while they were NOT owned by Microsoft?




Is it weekend GAF already?

Reading is hard. Where did I say Microsoft had anything to do with their tech? That was a jab at the fact that the game sold poorly, and its priced at 80 euros while being an inferior short product. I guess you do live in the weekend, but most of your replies are abysmal so can't really expect much.

 

[MikeM]

DLSS/FSR is obligatory for path tracing

FSR4 would be an option. Too bad its not there yet.

 

[manfestival]

Tried this on my 4090 and immediately turned this trash off.

 

[OverHeat]

Tried this on my 4090 and immediately turned this trash off.

Trash? Your supposed to have the best and latest to fully enjoy this. Upgrade if you want future tech now

 

[yamaci17]

i made a mistake in comparisons. i will do them again later

 

[damidu]

That's factually incorrect. I was getting over 70 fps with my 5070ti @ 1440p with DLSS at balanced and everything cranked all the way up. Any card better than a 4070 can play with path tracing without framegen @ >6t0fps with the right settings.

1440p dlss balanced is like 800p base res already, i didnt buy a 5070ti to play at that.
4070 upwards playing PT at 60fps without framegen sounds like factual BS, lets see some receipts for that.

Also, FG doesn't produce any visible artifacts with a high enough base frame rate.

define high enough base frame rate, FG from 50 clearly produces ghosting, just focus on the dot in the middle of the screen and see it multiply with movement.
any higher than and i'd turn that shit right off anyways.

 

[analog_future]

FG from 50 clearly produces ghosting, just focus on the dot in the middle of the screen and see it multiply with movement.
any higher than and i'd turn that shit right off anyways.

That's an interesting choice. I'd choose 100+ fps w/ FG over 60fps every time unless it was a competitive online shooter or something.

 

[manfestival]

Trash? Your supposed to have the best and latest to fully enjoy this. Upgrade if you want future tech now

I mean I bought a 9800x3d to upgrade my cpu from a 13900k that will be arriving tomorrow but the performance is still meh. Rather have the higher framerate. Trade off isn't worth it. This aint no cyberpunk

 

[marjo]

1440p dlss balanced is like 800p base res already, i didnt buy a 5070ti to play at that.
4070 upwards playing PT at 60fps without framegen sounds like factual BS, lets see some receipts for that.


define high enough base frame rate, FG from 50 clearly produces ghosting, just focus on the dot in the middle of the screen and see it multiply with movement.
any higher than and i'd turn that shit right off anyways.

What difference does the base res make if the final output looks good? IMO DLSS 4 looks absolutely fine at 1440p balanced. I'd gladly play it at that resolution with path tracing, than native 1440p without.

High enough for Frame Gen is subjective. I usually don't turn it on unless I've got at least 80 fps. At that point, I don't see any artifacts at all, and the increased motion resolution is worth that slight increase in latency.

 

[clarky]

1440p dlss balanced is like 800p base res already, i didnt buy a 5070ti to play at that.
4070 upwards playing PT at 60fps without framegen sounds like factual BS, lets see some receipts for that.


define high enough base frame rate, FG from 50 clearly produces ghosting, just focus on the dot in the middle of the screen and see it multiply with movement.
any higher than and i'd turn that shit right off anyways.

Wait, you are on a 5070ti? Turn some settings down. If you don't want to use DLSS and frame gen with pathtracing on then I'm afraid you bought the wrong card.

 

[amigastar]

I get 109 fps with path tracing on my 4070 in 1080p. Looking good.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Can not wait to jump into this. It might go in my queue ahead of stellar blade now.

 

[mrMUR_96]

This is probably the worst looking game that uses raytracing and pathtracing.

Asset quality and texture quality can't be fixed by RT/PT. But yeah even the actual RT implementation is very basic and PT while better is still disappointing. Can't wait to see DF give it graphics of the year.

 

[wafflecioccy]

Asset quality and texture quality can't be fixed by RT/PT. But yeah even the actual RT implementation is very basic and PT while better is still disappointing. Can't wait to see DF give it graphics of the year.

Didn't they have some new layered textures in Doom? The textures can't be that bad.

 

[mrMUR_96]

Didn't they have some new layered textures in Doom? The textures can't be that bad.

Yeah I think they had some new tech for the shaders or something, but the actual resolution seems kinda mid and the assets are a bit hit and miss imo. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they built the textures and assets to target series s.

 

[M.W.]

F1 path tracing is amazing. This ehhh

 

[clarky]

F1 path tracing is amazing. This ehhh

I can't get that game to boot on the setup I'm on currently, very frustrating.

 

[Thebonehead]

If you're actually trying to help, maybe don't lead with dismissiveness. There's a way to share opinions without coming off disrespectful.

If your goal really was to help, then leading with "half your backlog is garbage" probably wasn't the best way to go about it.

I think the original intention was just a humorous take.

Made me laugh, but obviously fell flat for you.