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SecretMoblin

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as long as OP megagarbage cancer hero Elder Titan (now available on Google Play and Spotify) gets nerfed I'll be fine with it.

I'm here for a return to the void/silencer/necro meta, the complaints in here should be a joy to read (bike)
 
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Gentle Rodriguez

Member
godelsmetric said:
no i mean

how plausible is it that we wont see nerfs to storm, bh, etc.
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I don't even remember the last hero that everyone (justifiably) wanted a nerf for that didn't get one. The most dominating heroes almost always get nerfed.

You could argue that QoP should've gotten nerfed in 6.84 but she ended up being reasonably balanced, definitely not dominating the meta.

What he's less consistent in is buffs for weak characters, some get big buffs, some only get minor tweaks. I can understand this though, as very minor changes can mean a lot for a hero.
 
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rac

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shira said:
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shira please help
 
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Hylian7

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godelsmetric said:
no i mean

how plausible is it that we wont see nerfs to storm, bh, etc.
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I'd say 0.00000000005% chance those heroes won't get nerfed.

If I understand what he said correctly, basically this patch is going to be mainly number and maybe some changes on effects of certain spells, but nothing crazy. In other words we won't see things that require a lot of work on their end to implement, such as something like Alch Aghs, or Tree Aghs, or something of that nature. This patch will nerf Storm, BH, Lina, WW, Earthshaker, etc. Maybe throw out some buffs, change stuff on some items. There won't be new items or heroes, or anything crazy.

6.86 will probably be Pit Lord and Arc Warden and maybe even Sun Wukong if we're lucky, along with stuff like new items, new Aghs, abilities, things like that. I would say 6.85 is more like 6.83, and 6.86 is more like 6.84.
 
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Dreams-Visions

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Hylian7 said:
I'd say 0.00000000005% chance those heroes won't get nerfed.

If I understand what he said correctly, basically this patch is going to be mainly number and maybe some changes on effects of certain spells, but nothing crazy. In other words we won't see things that require a lot of work on their end to implement, such as something like Alch Aghs, or Tree Aghs, or something of that nature. This patch will nerf Storm, BH, Lina, WW, Earthshaker, etc. Maybe throw out some buffs, change stuff on some items. There won't be new items or heroes, or anything crazy.

6.86 will probably be Pit Lord and Arc Warden and maybe even Sun Wukong if we're lucky, along with stuff like new items, new Aghs, abilities, things like that. I would say 6.85 is more like 6.83, and 6.86 is more like 6.84.
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6.85? so like 6 months from now.
 
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Hylian7

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Dreams-Visions said:
6.85? so like 6 months from now.
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Well this time *should* be different, but I would expect based on what IceFrog said in that post that 6.85 should be a shorter patch with 6.86 after the first Major.

Artanisix said:
extremely popular pub heroes will always get nerfed, even if they don't excel in pro play

see: sb, ursa
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I think Ursa will get a buff somewhere, I can't even remember the last time I saw him in a pub game since the original 6.84 (not the letter incarnations).

SB has been picked in pro games a good number of times. I expect he will get some kind of nerf, and not just a "lol this hero wrecks pubs" nerf either.
 
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Artanisix

Member
i didn't mean that sb and ursa are getting nerfed in 6.85

i was just saying they were very popular pub heroes in the past and they were nerfed solely off of pub exploitation
 
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twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
i don't think storm will ever be out of pro play unless they change something drastic about him like not making him invulnerable during zip
 
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Gentle Rodriguez

Member
Storm isn't inherently broken, increase mana cost on a spell or two and it'll become way harder to make him work, he's extremely reliant on mana to be any kind of a threat.
 
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Hylian7

Member
Gentle Rodriguez said:
Storm isn't inherently broken, increase mana cost on a spell or two and it'll become way harder to make him work, he's extremely reliant on mana to be any kind of a threat.
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I think that's likely, but I also think they're going to do something with stacking which will be an inadvertent nerf to him.
 
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twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Hylian7 said:
That would completely deflate the purpose of the hero. IceFrog isn't about that nerfing life.
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it just means that he could be captured by extremely clutch bkb-piercing ults

why should storm be the only one who scales with hero skill?
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SecretMoblin

Member
meepo was nerfed something fierce and he's never played in pro games :(


buff meepo :(




and no storm is not inherently broken lol, neither is ember or PL or puck

a few tweaks and he will be abandoned the way every hero (even bat) was

the cycle continues
 
Emerson

Emerson

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Hylian7 said:
I'd say 0.00000000005% chance those heroes won't get nerfed.

If I understand what he said correctly, basically this patch is going to be mainly number and maybe some changes on effects of certain spells, but nothing crazy. In other words we won't see things that require a lot of work on their end to implement, such as something like Alch Aghs, or Tree Aghs, or something of that nature. This patch will nerf Storm, BH, Lina, WW, Earthshaker, etc. Maybe throw out some buffs, change stuff on some items. There won't be new items or heroes, or anything crazy.

6.86 will probably be Pit Lord and Arc Warden and maybe even Sun Wukong if we're lucky, along with stuff like new items, new Aghs, abilities, things like that. I would say 6.85 is more like 6.83, and 6.86 is more like 6.84.
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I doubt Sun Wukong even exists anymore. Also I would be shocked if we ever get more than one hero in a patch again. Seems extremely unlikely to me.
 
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Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
I'd personally like to see Storm vulnerable during his ult. Make it so he can't just zap away from Pugna Ward, Rupture, and AoE spells unscathed.
 
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Cyborgmatt

Member
Who needs Sun Wukong when you have Phantom Lancer.

Also with the engine switch you can pretty much see that Reborn's client has super high priority (daily bug fixes etc), got to get the client in a decent shape before the majors so I wouldn't expect to see multiple new heroes/events etc in the near future.
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
He would just revert one of the turn speed changes and then Storm will go back down to the dumpster.
 
shira

shira

Member
Cyborgmatt said:
Also with the engine switch you can pretty much see that Reborn's client has super high priority (daily bug fixes etc), got to get the client in a decent shape before the majors so I wouldn't expect to see multiple new heroes
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Damn I was hoping it would be Axe introducing Pitlord in the Immortal comic thing like they've been doing lately with WW and Urkel.

Cyborgmatt said:
events etc in the near future.
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Gentle Rodriguez

Member
Honestly I just played a shitload of custom games in AoM, that community was so great. I also used cheat codes for the story mode, I used to be really bad at RTS games.
 
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