Pureauthor
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The thing is that Ghost Scepter in this scenario is reactive based to when Slark ults, whereas Slark has a lot more leeway ti be selective about when he decides to pop it, so he still has a measure of control in that situation.
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The thing is that Ghost Scepter in this scenario is reactive based to when Slark ults, whereas Slark has a lot more leeway ti be selective about when he decides to pop it, so he still has a measure of control in that situation.
People complained it was too loud :/
I bet teams will try to pick AA to counter slark.
shira
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User 85168
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I think DK is being a little too stubborn/confident about their skill. They're not really trying anything new with the patch, and it seems like they thought they could just win off their skill.
I really like Slark's new ulti. I've seen a lot of people complain about it, saying it's a total downgrade, but I'm not so sure. It's a lot stronger now in mid game, where before a gem would surface and ruin your fun. I know I'll definitely be playing him more.
The Technomancer
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Increased ward count on Shadow Shaman is excellent. Seriously helps with his early game
CarbonatedFalcon
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It's not like you were going to be fighting so often that you'd need Shadow Dance more than once a minute anyway. And if you're getting BKB on Slark like you should be, he's a beast.
Rookje
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Is this one of the biggest patches in DOTA history?
I think they made a huge mistake with how big this patch is. Its so many changes its hard to say what the outcome is. There's a reason why Blizzard tries to only do small iterative changes lately instead of a huge list of changes.
I think they made a huge mistake with how big this patch is. Its so many changes its hard to say what the outcome is. There's a reason why Blizzard tries to only do small iterative changes lately instead of a huge list of changes.
Not entirely sure many people are happy with Blizzard's balancing efforts, tbh, SC2 in particular. Takes eons for them to come to the point of saying, "oh right, nobody uses these units or these strategies, we'll fix them".
Pureauthor
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The reason being that if something is OP in dota 2 it can be banned out quickly whereas in starcraft you're up shit creek without a paddle.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
And instead of toning down the volume, they just replace it with what may as well be a mouse's quiet fart.
CarbonatedFalcon
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It's the most significant patch in the last 2 years, if not longer. Lots of huge core mechanic changed besides all the hero stuff which is pretty meaty here as well.
Dota seems to be a game that happily embraces chaos and flux. Sure there will be small balance patches here and there, but there always seems to be 1 or 2 big ones throughout the year. It's a very risky approach to a game this big, but it's also a very refreshing one.
It's intentional, Icefrog doesn't want to know what the outcome is ahead of time, but shake things up and let players figure it out. It's one of the things that keeps DOTA from stagnating.
And he can always hotfix if something is problematic, and potential problematic heroes are kept out of CM, the competitive mode, so everyone's happy.
Not to mention his testers are pretty extensive seeing as how they have a half a year to a year to iron out the worst offenders. While Blizzard and Riot prefer to make small changes and see how the community responds to each patch, Icefrog probably makes a lot of small changes over a long time internally, and then releases all of it at once.
Instead of comparing it to Blizzard or Riot, think of it like Magic the Gathering and how every year one set rotates in while another set rotates out and everyone gets to "figure out the meta" all over again. Except with DOTA2, Icefrog can still fine tune if it's absolutely necessary.
Rookje
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IDK, maybe for the higher end player. But for the guy who doesn't read the patch notes, or queues a few games every week its annoying seeing someone say "Lol noob why'd you pick X, he sucks now." It becomes a roller coaster of change. I'm not even sure the best way to play right now. Some heroes may have changed from being offlaners to strong mids.
You either get use to it or drop the game.
After so many years of this, I expect patch to shake up things. If they started to do 2-6 hero patches it would be really really disappointing to me
Sure, if you queued like, one game every 6 months.
It'd be strange, however, for most regular players to completely miss out on this patch considering how little has changed in DOTA2 since the last hero was released (Abbadon?). The hype was palpable.
I mean shit, when I quit League for 6 months and went back the whole game changed and I just took a few days to refamiliarize myself with it.
And people are going to flame you anyway, this patch is just one excuse of many.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
If you play a few games a week you should prolly read patch notes.
Technosteve
Banned
new creep set up makes chen's rotation so easy on dire, would bloodstone axe work?
There is no middle ground. Its either noob or pro. So you gotta do that research
I'm not so sure that's the issue. I think it's more in line of complaining that Dota is too complex.
Dota is a complicated beast, you have to learn it. The most important thing is that you are never finished learning things.
skillshot
Mirana arrow is easier to land
Not at all, you just have to aim at the outer edge of the skill's range and not the inner.
Sgt.Pepper
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Those things are so wrong all the time.
Sigismundo
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CarbonatedFalcon
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Yeah the new game ready sound effect is weak sauce compared to the old one. Can barely hear it in comparison.
Captain Fish
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Maybe if Sniper fixed his left lens he'd have a better time.
Sigismundo
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Should've seen him playing Brood earlier (I think it was him)
Actually I have no idea but he'd be one of them.
we should play together
Cyborgmatt
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My new SMS message alert tone: http://www.cyborgmatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/match_ready.mp3
Well, that was pretty fun. In my defense, I almost killed pudge like 3 times. I haven't played mirana in forever, and her base damage is super low. Umm lets see... we didn't have any wards, there was no communication on our team, two of our players were russian, Lich KS me like every time
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and also I am horribly bad
It's like Dota is taking goodness from the heritage of my people and putting it into their game. I like!
http://youtu.be/9a_V-FKyfuc
All I know is the boots heal you crazy fast. I wonder it may actually be viable to buy a pair on top of anther set of boots for any hero who is spending a large amount of time roaming. Its twice as good as ring of Heath when active, and only 100 gold more, but they break oh so easily.
Sigismundo
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Monochromaticx
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Treant. Poor little treant.
Meepo (?)
... That's all I got
Side note: THANKS FOR FIXING THE THREAD TITLE BASED MOD! Yes, it was driving me nuts!
Wok
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When you are mid, you cannot use the boots as free tango anymore, but maybe I need to adapt and check the higher health regeneration rate.
About Lich, I think there are new animation cancellings for the ultimate spell and this would explain why I have missed some of them.
Guys i called in sick this morning. Gonna play all day fuck all and this shitty weather 
Sad i missed an IH yesterday, damn time zones, i would've liked to net some ez wins.
EDIT: Tranquils are ridicolously good. CM feel even stronger now, i wouldn't be surprised if she were top WR% in pubs after Zeus this version.
EDIT2: actually Zeus winrate fell in pubs wow. Now necro's 1st i think, with 57.3% or smth ridicolous like that.
EDIT3: Lmao 58.5% win rate death prophet. She see the nerf in her future.
Sad i missed an IH yesterday, damn time zones, i would've liked to net some ez wins.
EDIT: Tranquils are ridicolously good. CM feel even stronger now, i wouldn't be surprised if she were top WR% in pubs after Zeus this version.
EDIT2: actually Zeus winrate fell in pubs wow. Now necro's 1st i think, with 57.3% or smth ridicolous like that.
EDIT3: Lmao 58.5% win rate death prophet. She see the nerf in her future.
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