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Dota 2 |OT4| The saga of Vade and ReRixo: the Boat Anchors continues.
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Terrible farm on my FV, but at least we won. Had a close call here and there pudge and bloodseeker ganking but I finally got my gear up.
edit: How do I solo lane better against Sniper/Disruptor combo? I did ok but by myself but those mini stuns are a PITA. Lucky I guess that Time Walk doesn't care about Kinetic field. Game could have been over much sooner but my farm was terrible at only 500gpm
edit: How do I solo lane better against Sniper/Disruptor combo? I did ok but by myself but those mini stuns are a PITA. Lucky I guess that Time Walk doesn't care about Kinetic field. Game could have been over much sooner but my farm was terrible at only 500gpm
edit: How do I solo lane better against Sniper/Disruptor combo? I did ok but by myself but those mini stuns are a PITA. Lucky I guess that Time Walk doesn't care about Kinetic field. Game could have been over much sooner but my farm was terrible at only 500gpm
Ring of health + stout and hope your team will help if needed.
Marauder Shields
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Damn PL pick. HYPED!
Where!!!
IDK why gifcam is being shitty, but I have like 20 programs running that probably interfere with it so w/e. Nothing special.
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Getting at least 1 Rampage on top of beyond Godlike feels so goooood. DB
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So many ways to build Ember
Sounds about right, on top of that you can change Flame Guard for ganking depending on what heroes you are ganking as well.
Marauder Shields
Member
Titan vs Sahara on BTS. Link
Spoke too soon though as this PL has made some very questionable plays. Really wanna see a well played PL at the pro level (am relatively new to watching pro-Dota so I wasn't around for when PL was in his heyday).
No I mean the guy was bolaing before he did sleight
like
doing the combo backwards, constantly.
This guy was on MVP
Marauder Shields
Member
I'm interested to know what kyxY's thought process was during that. Like was he planning to drop the TP scroll but dropped the Manta by accident?
shira
Member
Probably dropped it.
Edit: Even though he had a TP on his inventory, he dropped his manta style to pick up a gem.
I'm sure he thought building a 6000 gold butterfly when he is faaaar behind was the right choice.
Esp. since, u know FV already has evasion and had no farming item like BF/Malestrom.
I feel like Q-E-E-Q-Q-R-E-E-W-W By level 10 is the best, overall build. I prefer closing the distance with Remnants with the added tank of Flame Guard. It also gives you a great laning phase all things considered.
GordonHalfman
Member
I think SoF should always be maxed by 10. That 6 second cd is really important, it does too much work to leave it until 14. Whether you go guard or chains I think depends on your lane, like how much magic damage they have and how easily you can run them down with flameguard.
Everyone in this thread is crazy. Flame guard is embers best skill until late in the mid game. It does way more damage in the early game, works on everyone in range, works while your slighting, still does damage while your stunned or silenced, and effectively gives you like 50% hp increase vs magic damage for free.
Radiance is like 4500 gold or something? And radiance doesn't even give a shield. Seriously, flame guard is Op
Radiance is like 4500 gold or something? And radiance doesn't even give a shield. Seriously, flame guard is Op
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Radiance is 5100.
I've never played Ember but his E seems ridiculous.
I've never played Ember but his E seems ridiculous.
One of this guys videos was posted a couple months back but I subscribed and he has put out some really funny videos since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOWBZNBl95w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOWBZNBl95w
Skipping flameguard until 9-10 is Singsing's build and the hero is permabanned against him so i'm gonna go ahead and say that it's probably not crazy.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Appeal to authority. I like your fallacy.
He said it's crazy to do something like that and yet Singsing is 8-3 and no one wants to play against him on Ember.
Look up appeal to authority, you might learn something.
Shadow Demon fell flat? He was an enormous support until his nerfs. He was the most picked hero in 6.77 even ahead of Magnus who was considered overpowered at the time with the increase in RP damage that gave him solo kill potential even with limited farm (Course, this probably means Magnus was banned more than Shadow Demon, giving him the edge to see more drafting but the point still stands he was considered top of the heap).
You got your doctorate in mad science, didn't you?
Just because he's really good doesn't mean it's the best build. He's singsing, he could probably wreck face with just about any hero or skill build. He's on a pro team that practices and coordinates specific strategies involving specific skill builds . and he still missed kills because he maxed bolas first.
And it's not like he never gets flame guard, he just gets bolas first. So maybe instead of just saying well Singsing's Ember gets banned therefor the skill build must be good you could try to at least explain why bola 4/flameguard 1 is better then flame guard 4/bola 1.
I love his videos. The Pugna one he posted recently is amazing.
Your carry has arrived! PUGNA! FUCK you!
Ok first of all a personal break down of the skills:
bolas is not a really good spell until you get three points in it (then it's phenomenal until like 30 minutes) so i think it's mandatory to get 3 points at level 5.
Flame guard is really good in a passive lane because you can force your opponent out but it's goddamn awful at level 1.
SoF has great sinergy with bolas.
In my mind that leaves you with 2 choices when progressing to level 5:
1: you get 3-2-0, with another hero you can easily get kills on the lane opponents because it's really hard to stay out of the 2 points sof+bolas range.
2: you get 3-0-2, the opponent can't come close to the wave because two points in flame guard enough damage to force him out but it costs quite a bit of mana and it's really hard to get kills because you have limited range. Sure you can get one point in SoF just to land the bolas but then you won't have enough damage because you sacrificed one point in the other skills. You're pushing the wave every time you use flameguard so if you're safelane the enemy offlaner can get exp safely behind tower. Also you're tankier.
Theoretically build 2 becomes much better at level 6 but it still costs so much mana that it's probably not worth it most of the times.
I do both builds but i'm liking the early aggression from build 1 a lot more lately.
My point was that if someone is using a certain build in pro games with great success there's probably a reason.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Flameguard doesn't win you mid against a lot of popular mids. That's the conclusion I've come to after playing a few games mid as him.
Sleight does.
That's why Rtz/SongSong goes Sleight first. In side lanes, it's more viable to go Flameguard because you'll have an ally or a jungle or roamers to lock people down for you.
Once you can pull off Sleight-Bolas consistently, you won't need Fire Remnants to initiate (and honestly it's pretty slow) so you can use it for nuking, adding another 300 damage to his burst.
EDIT: Obviously, if you're up against Pudge or something, Flameguard will help much more than Sleight, so really, it's always situational.
Sleight does.
That's why Rtz/SongSong goes Sleight first. In side lanes, it's more viable to go Flameguard because you'll have an ally or a jungle or roamers to lock people down for you.
Once you can pull off Sleight-Bolas consistently, you won't need Fire Remnants to initiate (and honestly it's pretty slow) so you can use it for nuking, adding another 300 damage to his burst.
EDIT: Obviously, if you're up against Pudge or something, Flameguard will help much more than Sleight, so really, it's always situational.
Schweinehund
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So if I open treasure of radiant arms 5 times am I guaranteed to get VS set?
If so, anyone want to give me their treasures?
If so, anyone want to give me their treasures?
Well, if any hero deserves to teabag his gank targets, it's Ember.
Schweinehund
Member
Nope, no guarantee on VS set. I should have known from market value.
Oh well, atleast I got this sweet ass bald eagle and LC set. Prophet set is not too shabby either. Puck meh.
Oh well, atleast I got this sweet ass bald eagle and LC set. Prophet set is not too shabby either. Puck meh.
A hero so manly he can bind other heroes with his giant testicles.
