So necro good late game carry vs 4 protect 1 strats?
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So necro good late game carry vs 4 protect 1 strats?
SteveWinwood
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If you were looking to counter a strategy almost no one runs anymore sure!
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Winter Wyvern would've been perfect for countering that with her(?) ult.
Would a refresher orb be worth taking for late game, or is it still not worth building around the ult?
hey, I like necro, but everyone tells me he's crap late unless vs that strat :/
So after finally getting time to look through the patch notes, I have to say I like what I see. Funny how it's not just the bug fixes that fit the spring cleaning theme, 6.81 also feels like it's more about cleaning up a few things from 6.79 and 6.80. Lot's of small things, as well as some kooky stuff and a couple of bigger changes.
Firstly, good TB nerf. Hopefully it does enough. Naga, Ember and Lycan all got slaps on the wrist. They are all still strong but hopefully this is enough to stop them being terrors in the right hands.
A couple of the Agh's buffs are cool. Lich, KOTL and Jakiro especially, Aba, Lina, Shadow Demon and Omni are nice too. Windrunner carry is very viable in pubs now I think.
No more Anient pulling with ES, cool.
Huskar lifesteal is cool.
Legion now has a pretty damn good AOE nuke for teamfights now, so as I was complaining about her Q just recently I guess I should say thanks Icefrog!
Leshrac might be able to set up his own stuns with lightning storm now, makes him draftable without a setup stun, pretty cool.
Demoli rejoicing at any LD buffs.
PA legit carry? With free farm I'd be tempted to put just 3 points in dagger now as you get 50% up time on the slow from that, allowing you put more early points into the now superior blur.
Phoenix nerf, needed, not as big as TB's nerf, we shall see.
Ursa is awesome. Everyone is talking about the MoM possibilties but in the mid/late game I think Skadi is even scarier. Unless you have plenty of stuns or a forcestaff getting away from him will be impossible. Even in late game Ursa could solo a lot of carries now. And cus it stacks with lifesteal on melee you can still get that early rosh with MoM/Morbid Mask.
Venge is awesome too. Again, I was saying how scared I was swapping into a team just recently cus my team might not be able to burst their carry before I die and his team rescues him. Now my death is useful and will win us the fight so it's nothing to worry about.
Some other cool stuff but that was the stuff that either stood out or was relevant to me.
Firstly, good TB nerf. Hopefully it does enough. Naga, Ember and Lycan all got slaps on the wrist. They are all still strong but hopefully this is enough to stop them being terrors in the right hands.
A couple of the Agh's buffs are cool. Lich, KOTL and Jakiro especially, Aba, Lina, Shadow Demon and Omni are nice too. Windrunner carry is very viable in pubs now I think.
No more Anient pulling with ES, cool.
Huskar lifesteal is cool.
Legion now has a pretty damn good AOE nuke for teamfights now, so as I was complaining about her Q just recently I guess I should say thanks Icefrog!
Leshrac might be able to set up his own stuns with lightning storm now, makes him draftable without a setup stun, pretty cool.
Demoli rejoicing at any LD buffs.
PA legit carry? With free farm I'd be tempted to put just 3 points in dagger now as you get 50% up time on the slow from that, allowing you put more early points into the now superior blur.
Phoenix nerf, needed, not as big as TB's nerf, we shall see.
Ursa is awesome. Everyone is talking about the MoM possibilties but in the mid/late game I think Skadi is even scarier. Unless you have plenty of stuns or a forcestaff getting away from him will be impossible. Even in late game Ursa could solo a lot of carries now. And cus it stacks with lifesteal on melee you can still get that early rosh with MoM/Morbid Mask.
Venge is awesome too. Again, I was saying how scared I was swapping into a team just recently cus my team might not be able to burst their carry before I die and his team rescues him. Now my death is useful and will win us the fight so it's nothing to worry about.
Some other cool stuff but that was the stuff that either stood out or was relevant to me.
*zooms in on literally every female audience member back to back*
Dreams-Visions
Member
Yes.
Also, why even bother buying wards against a Zeus? As soon as the bottle is online, they're gone. If not sooner.
Seriously.
mastershake
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Are the DH grand finals being played today?
tomorrow
Servbot #42
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wait why is navi called flufly bears now? i heard they had 3 standing because 3 members got an STD or something but still.
EDIT: wait i found the reason:
http://www.esportsmax.com/news/navi-drops-out-dreamhack-bucharest-replaced-team-fuzzy-bears
thats just weird lol.
EDIT: wait i found the reason:
http://www.esportsmax.com/news/navi-drops-out-dreamhack-bucharest-replaced-team-fuzzy-bears
thats just weird lol.
Yeah seriously I'm fucking dreading diffusal or satanic + skadii ursa. Scary ass fucking bear is going to tear my hp-less wolf to shreds.
NotoriousPUG
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But those are two of the most fun heroes in the game.
OD man, OD
skadi ursa sounds like a nightmare
6.81 ursa can solo roshan 2 minutes into the game at level 3, what in the actual fuck
balladofwindfishes
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Why is vanguard a recommended item on Dazzle now?
The heck? Why?
Also apparently Centaur doesn't need any boots at all.
The heck? Why?
Also apparently Centaur doesn't need any boots at all.
dazzle clearly need that hp regen.
centaur doesn't need boots since you just rush blink and stomp everyone/ use ult.
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i dont know how reliable this is, if I tried it i would just get bashed to death
Just ward his jungle.
But seriously, it seems like teams will have to be on their toes with 6.81 Ursa. Make sure you have some vision in the woods and if you can't see him for a few seconds, send a support to check the pit.
At least these early solo roshes look easy to disrupt even with an under leveled hard support.
But seriously, it seems like teams will have to be on their toes with 6.81 Ursa. Make sure you have some vision in the woods and if you can't see him for a few seconds, send a support to check the pit.
At least these early solo roshes look easy to disrupt even with an under leveled hard support.
I did it at level 4 with morbid+stout. Haven't tried 3 yet, but it went pretty well.
call_kotaku
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There's a difference between doing it before and after 4 minutes, because roshan gets buffed
I never liked jungle ursa. That hero is so goddamn strong in lane I don't know why you'd ever jungle him outside of pubs picking 3 carries. It's like jungling n'aix. Pair ursa with a decent support that has either a slow or a stun, walk up to a person, and eat them alive at level 1-2. He's fast, he has high base armor, he has a slow, and he has probably the highest damaging level 1 attack modifier (aside from burning spears maybe) in the game. Take advantage of that shit in a lane.
This. The key to doing it is getting in there at 2-3 minutes so you can take advantage of a weaker roshan. The longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes until you have some more items.
Dreams-Visions
Member
on the test client.
ahh ok
Not with frost armor, treant and omni
someone's been watching lumi, bruno and tobi's patch analysis 
seems pretty legit on him.
Servbot #42
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i think navi.....i mean the bears are gonna lose this one
EDIT: welp 4 dead on the bears thata really bad.
EDIT 2: Team fucking wipe, the bears got destroyed.
EDIT: welp 4 dead on the bears thata really bad.
EDIT 2: Team fucking wipe, the bears got destroyed.