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DOTA 2 |OT6| Plz vote for Keeper of the Light Arcana
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Says the tinker picker.
http://dotabuff.com/players/4334287...me_mode=&hero=luna&lobby_type=&page=4®ion=
I miss the old tranquil boots.
Shadow blade luna is fun on the trench.
http://dotabuff.com/players/4334287...me_mode=&hero=luna&lobby_type=&page=4®ion=
I miss the old tranquil boots.
Booty Patrol
Banned
Says the tinker picker.
Shadow blade luna is fun on the trench.
http://dotabuff.com/players/4334287...me_mode=&hero=luna&lobby_type=&page=4®ion=
I miss the old tranquil boots.
Mirana's worse. I agree with the idea of nerfing the arrow stun time scaling. That shit is retarded at level 1.
fume
What even are the odds of something like that happening...
The irritating thing about her is that at level 1 though, there can be an arrow coming from LITERALLY ANY DIRECTION ON LITERALLY ANY LANE stunning you for 5 seconds, and there's a 95% chance you're dead. You can say "Well you just have to be aware, map awareness." Yeah, you can't look everywhere at once, and because you missed the blue pixels you're stunned for 5 seconds now. It's utter horse shit and needs to be nerfed.
Wok
Member
What even are the odds of something like that happening though? The 5-second stun is not free, it does require some skills.
Not really. I've had games where Mirana's just sit mid and shoot arrows until they hit someone. You aren't looking in that direction for them? Guess what, fuck you. The hitbox is wide enough where you think "Oh, I'm far enough to the side I'm fine...NOPE"
Shit is absurd, and 5 seconds at LEVEL ONE is overpowered as hell.
Both my LP games (Mistaken group DC) were actually fun with good teamwork and rotations and wards. Weird.
Just don't mid, ez. Or figure out that you should ward other spots or your other lanes are at advantage vs a roaming Mirana.
Whatever.
call_kotaku
Member
I think the solution is to give laser to Mirana and Arrow to tinker
Green Biker Dude
Banned
it's not just the stun duration. compare mirana's arrow to clockwork's hookshot:
hookshot: 150 mana, 2000/2500/3000 range, 100/200/300 damage
arrow: 100 mana, 3000 range, +140 damage at +1500 range, maximum of 190 - 460 damage
it makes no fucking sense. and mirana scales better than cw. and her escape is just as useful as his. and sacred arrow doesn't put her in danger, unlike hookshot. yet the two spells serve basically the same purpose. they need to make mirana depend on experience. the way she is right now, she can just do things from lvl 1. it's like pudge having maximum range hook at lvl 1. they need to nerf the range, the bonus damage, increase the mana cost. and then decrease the stun duration
also, at lvl 1, you can shoot 2 arrows. and then with 1 clarity, you can refill your entire mana pool. so you get 4 arrows for 50 gold.
hookshot: 150 mana, 2000/2500/3000 range, 100/200/300 damage
arrow: 100 mana, 3000 range, +140 damage at +1500 range, maximum of 190 - 460 damage
it makes no fucking sense. and mirana scales better than cw. and her escape is just as useful as his. and sacred arrow doesn't put her in danger, unlike hookshot. yet the two spells serve basically the same purpose. they need to make mirana depend on experience. the way she is right now, she can just do things from lvl 1. it's like pudge having maximum range hook at lvl 1. they need to nerf the range, the bonus damage, increase the mana cost. and then decrease the stun duration
also, at lvl 1, you can shoot 2 arrows. and then with 1 clarity, you can refill your entire mana pool. so you get 4 arrows for 50 gold.
Green Biker Dude
Banned
except mirana still has an aoe spell, a ult that's almost a free smoke and her escape also gives ms/as to the entire team
Green Biker Dude
Banned
it's almost like every hero can do anything in any role and camp a lane to hit a spell from lvl 1 until 7 minutes. except it's not every hero, just mirana
neurosisxeno
Member
And Clock can completely ruin an opposing teams teamfight potential, drain craploads of mana, and ministun someone so badly they can't cast a single spell.
Booty Patrol
Banned
Starstorm is far more ridiculous than arrow but I never see anyone complaining about that. 525 damage at level 4 factoring in two stars hitting. That's more damage than a lot ultimate skills.
Green Biker Dude
Banned
do you have any point to make or are you just here to post "nuh uh"?
starstorm isn't a problem because she doesn't use that to camp lanes from lvl 1
starstorm isn't a problem because she doesn't use that to camp lanes from lvl 1
I don't know, are you gonna keep going for non sequiturs?
Green Biker Dude
Banned
yeah it makes no sense to compare two initiation spells
i heard people were comparing shiva's to ac and ck's stun with wk's. when will the internet learn
i heard people were comparing shiva's to ac and ck's stun with wk's. when will the internet learn
Booty Patrol
Banned
mirana sits in the jungle for 7 minutes at level 1 but no one bothers to go kill her
a mess
a mess
this is like having a discussion with bush himself
neurosisxeno
Member
He's RPing.
PorcellainThrill
Member
All he is saying is that the Sacred Arrow is a weapon of mass destruction and should be preventively nerfed before Mirana terrorizes any more lanes on lvl 1 with her 5 second stuns.
call_kotaku
Member
Mirana is just skywrath mage with a slower movespeed Kappa
Broodmother is one of the best space creators in the game. She forces 3+ heroes in lane or she'll constantly kill a farmer/roaming support, and if left ignored she'll push you to your t4's in less than 20min. One or 2 ganks from your mid/supports and you can be left alone forever. Orchid for solo kills, Vlads for more pushing, same for necro. Manta to dispell track/Amp/dust/slows/silences. Bkb agaisnt heavy disable teams.
Just played a game with her yesterday, and she's still very strong.
neurosisxeno
Member
If you're eating 5 second stuns in lane at level 1 you're awful and deserve to lose.
PorcellainThrill
Member
wow, thats some awful victim blaming right there
AD has potential to be really fun, but for that Valve would need to put some work into it. Making us pick our hero in reverse order from the abilities draft would be a huge first step in the right direction.Good 2 days for me. Well only mode I play is AD, and I have been having the worst luck in picking phase. Would be so much more fun the mode if they remove those stupidly out of balance shit like they did with Meepo. or give concede option, but I know that would be too much for Dota purists out there.
Edit. im doing soemthing wrong or you cant spoiler tag images?
90% of the pro players currently playing at the International are feeling very insulted.
shira
Member
Luo did, lost the game v c9
No she isn't, especially not as long as Tinker has his free blink escape
Says the tinker picker.
Shadow blade luna is fun on the trench.
http://dotabuff.com/players/4334287...me_mode=&hero=luna&lobby_type=&page=4®ion=
I miss the old tranquil boots.
Oh, I'm sure it can be fun, but if you have free farm on luna you should probably make more of it than a shadow blade.
Yeah, I've queued lpq before and had a different experience. I don't usually have that bad experiences with the community so I was a bit stunned to get game after game with probably the worst the community has to offer. We still had fun though, I guess you have to laugh this stuff off instead of letting it get to you.
Cato the Censor
Member
Thanks for the Shoutout, even though i don't know who Nelo Cat is.
Already working hard on the other game you sent me, and when I say working hard i mean "my upload speed is shit", sigh. Was definitely a nice and entertaining game, even if your Tinker play couldn't change the result.
but it's so slow just dodge it
shira
Member
If you are in any kind of non-shit tier it's always chain combo'd with a reliable stun or disable. Bane, sd, etc
It's like a Pudge hook with no ally interactions.
well if you get chain stunned you're probably dead anyway
SteveWinwood
Member
Poor empire
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
With the next phase of the international, where is it being played?
And how much was it for an international ticket?
And how much was it for an international ticket?
or it comes out of the trees.
Technosteve
Banned
I want to win at dota, i am going to train hard at tinker and nature's prophet. Road to 3k mmr
Anuxi was this you?
http://dotabuff.com/matches/773800701
This was game was frustrating as hell. Such an early game advantage, and no one wanted to push the towers. And no one bought vision for Mirana and BH.
Doom am cry
http://dotabuff.com/matches/773800701
This was game was frustrating as hell. Such an early game advantage, and no one wanted to push the towers. And no one bought vision for Mirana and BH.
Doom am cry
fake anuxi, real one doesn't have anywhere near that many games.
Manus
Member
So what can you do against a Broodmother who knows what their doing? Especially when they also have a Tinker and Sniper. I'd leave top to defend against Tinker and Sniper push and she would just keep taking towers. It takes at least 2 or 3 people to take her down. The split push is just so brutal. She had our tier 3 down 20 minutes in. This is even with us killing her early in lane with dust and wards.
