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Another response from the gameplay engineer on the official forums.Seb Hanlon said:
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Dragon Age II |OT| The Revenge of Shit Mountain
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lastplayed
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Snuggler said:
Still undecided. Everything I've seen including the demo is just an average looking game that I would normally dismiss and move on. But it's BioWare and Dragon Age, so I just don't know.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I'm a sucker for anything BioWare so I'm picking this up day 1, no probs. Signature Edition and all. For the PS3 even (plan on getting the PC version this christmas over Steam) and I was impressed by the demo.
shinobi602
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Snuggler said:
Day 1 for me.
Snuggler said:
I'm there day 1 Or whenever amazon.ca ships mine. I like the original DAO and I like RPG with multiple paths and choices. I'm disappointed by lot of changes to be honest but I haven't bought a console game since Dead Rising 2 so I need something new to play. At least there seems to be a lot of replay value.
Randolph Freelander
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Day whenever it arrives in the mail from Amazon.
Demoncarnotaur
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Speculator said:
Ummmm....
Look-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZqfn-6pMzA&hd=1
We will dig around again, but honestly.. I dont believe its there.
As for the radial menu, it doesn't seem to work either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9oNVcl8BNM&hd=1
We have another video uploading atm. It goes a bit deeper, tries some other things... But auto-attack still doesnt seem to be in the 360 version. This is a final retail build of the game, so I really dont know whats up.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Zeal said:
Aw. Dude.
firehawk12
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Snuggler said:
The only reason I'm picking it up is because of this pre-order special edition thing. Although I suppose I'd do better by just waiting for the CE a year later since I'm just going to play Yakuza 4 anyway, but what the heck.
Wolves Evolve
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I hate to ask this, but who's downloaded both the PS3 and Xbox demos? Did you notice a considerable difference not in textures or anything, but in the cut-scene jittering and the little save / load pauses between menus? I'm loathe to switch to Xbox since I have a PS3 save of DA:O but it really doesn't look like there's much being brought over anyway. I really want save imports to be a big deal, but I'm not convinced this time.
Crazypanda_85
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Wolves Evolve said:
I've downloaded both demos and didn't really notice that much of a difference. It's seems like both console versions are close to being the same. It honestly just boils down to what system you want to play DA2 on.
Xilium
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gdt5016 said:
I think more people would be open to the non-auto attack mode if it provided more option to mix up your attacks. Typically in action games or arpgs you're given something like a light/strong attack mechanic or the ability to integrate your skills into your basic attack combo or string them together in some fashion.
Everything I've seen of the combat in this game seems to be that you just have a 4-5 hit combo for your basic attack and that's it. Skills just cancel you out of your combo and aren't strung together in any meaningful way. I'm assuming they did it though because they wanted to get rid of the accuracy and evasion stats and allow for live action dodging because I see no other benefit to that system with the way they have it set up.
Edit: I say this but now that I think about it, can enemies dodge your attacks and can you dodge anything other than large object (i.e. boulders) like arrows? I don't recall those things happening in the demo.
Snuggler said:
After I found out it wasn't a direct continuation of the story in Origins, my interest for getting it day 1 dropped significantly. I play a lot of RPGs so I've got plenty to play atm and knowing that Bioware will release a GOTY/Ultimate edition for the same price w/ all the DLC probably by the end of the year, I don't see much rush in getting the game.
I'm still interested in the world and characters but everything else about the game isn't really telling me this is a "must have now" game.
Already been mentioned. It's not in the game as of now and will likely come as a patch. Whether its day 0/1 or later down the road is unknown.Speculator said:
ProtoCents
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Zeal said:
Speculator
BioWare Austin
Ah, sounds like the case. That's also something that seems important to bring up to Mike Laidlaw during his Q&A session his Saturaday (http://dragonage.bioware.com/x/webcast/)Xilium said:
Ultimoo said:
Fair enough. I just don't think it's that big a deal though. I played through the demo just fine with no auto-attack. Not that you're not allowed to have a preference. Maybe it was dumb for BioWare not to put it in, but if that's what you're going to let keep you from enjoying what's probably a very good game, I think that's a little sad honestly :/
tadcalabash
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That's kinda my viewpoint too. I feel the things Bioware does best (storytelling, characters, etc) won't be affected by the things being criticized in this thread.lastplayed said:
As someone planning on playing the pc version, I feel the new combat speed greatly improves the feel of the game without compromising the tactical options too much.
Having played the DA2 console demo and a bit of DA:O there I don't think either one works particularly well.
GillianSeed79
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gdt5016 said:
I hope to be there day one. Sig 360 preordered. But, I really hate my job some times. See, where I live all trials begine on Tuesday. On March 8 I've got to cover a trial about this guy who helped hide a dead body after the person was murdered. Guy is toast, because the murderer is going to testify against him. Happens every god damn time there's a game I actually wan't to buy day 1. It wouldn't be too bad if it weren't for the fact the trial is a good 45 minutes away. Eight hours in court plus the two hours to write the story and the two hour round trip means no games for me next week.
Demoncarnotaur
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In search of auto-attack, part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe5h_Ckisc&hd=1
I know, it may be redundant at this point, but we tried quite a few more things to get auto-attack to work. We didn't have any luck. If you guys have any pointers from watching this, let us know. That said, Im feeling fairly confident it isn't in the 360 version of the game. Like others have said, maybe it will be added in a patch. Weird that some of the Devs seem to think it is there..
As for the graphics, I agree, some parts look bad. The demo was one of those parts that looked really bad. That said, some environments look really nice. Some of the art, textures and lighting look really beautiful. Believe me, Im surprised Im saying that. Most things I saw before the game came out had me severely disappointing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe5h_Ckisc&hd=1
I know, it may be redundant at this point, but we tried quite a few more things to get auto-attack to work. We didn't have any luck. If you guys have any pointers from watching this, let us know. That said, Im feeling fairly confident it isn't in the 360 version of the game. Like others have said, maybe it will be added in a patch. Weird that some of the Devs seem to think it is there..
As for the graphics, I agree, some parts look bad. The demo was one of those parts that looked really bad. That said, some environments look really nice. Some of the art, textures and lighting look really beautiful. Believe me, Im surprised Im saying that. Most things I saw before the game came out had me severely disappointing.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
4 hours in. So addictive. Feels a bit streamlined (one town, faster combat) but Im enjoying the story and theres tons of side quests
Synless
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I might be crazy, but I swear there is something different about the PS3's IQ. The entire image is just less detailed. I feel like it is sub-HD. No one else has really commented on it so take it as a grain of salt. The framerate seems unlocked on the PS3 version as well, as it often spikes well above and below 30 fps throughout the demo.Wolves Evolve said:
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Uhhhh...ChuckNoLuck said:
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
ChuckNoLuck said:
There is new, and there is this.
GenericUser
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played the demo, really didnt like it.
graphics looked ugly, conversations where dumbed down (first one had much more options to choose from), combat still too chaotic for me.
everytime i play dragon age, I think of ff12 and how much better i feel it dealt with combat from this perspective.
I did not like the first game that much more, but it felt more like bg (which was a good thing) than the second one. Definitely not buyin this. If i hunger for a new western rpg, i'll consider two worlds 2 first.
graphics looked ugly, conversations where dumbed down (first one had much more options to choose from), combat still too chaotic for me.
everytime i play dragon age, I think of ff12 and how much better i feel it dealt with combat from this perspective.
I did not like the first game that much more, but it felt more like bg (which was a good thing) than the second one. Definitely not buyin this. If i hunger for a new western rpg, i'll consider two worlds 2 first.
Kinspiracy
Banned
Still day 1, but I'm not looking forward to A A A A A A A A A A
GillianSeed79
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ChuckNoLuck said:
Uhh..
Stealth edit
Kinspiracy
Banned
So I got my answer on whether or not you can make a tactic for your tank (or other squadmates) to drink a potion at specific health levels...you can't. The reason being apparently that potions are on a global timer PER THE ENTIRE SQUAD. So the tank drinks a potion and no one else can until the timer resets. I can understand cooldowns per player, but per the entire squad? That just seems dumb.
Kinspiracy
Banned
I deleted the demo, so I can't go in and see if I drink a pot if it then restricts me from switching to another player and drinking again.
Demoncarnotaur
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I want to note that some peoples voices and accents in this game make absolutely no freaking sense. At all. I mean, what the hell.
Thats how I felt, but having the final game and exploring different environments does show the game in a way better light. It really looks nice at times. But yeah, the demo was meh and looked like crap.
Im still disappointed that there aren't finishing moves though. It makes the mashing A that much more... Mashy.
The game certainly improves on some aspects of the first game..while others are watered down.
Also, as I mentioned earlier, the character editor is disappointing. If you make your own custom appearance you cannot recreate default Hawke. His facial hair for one thing is not one of the options. I really dont get that.
sponk said:
Thats how I felt, but having the final game and exploring different environments does show the game in a way better light. It really looks nice at times. But yeah, the demo was meh and looked like crap.
Im still disappointed that there aren't finishing moves though. It makes the mashing A that much more... Mashy.
The game certainly improves on some aspects of the first game..while others are watered down.
Also, as I mentioned earlier, the character editor is disappointing. If you make your own custom appearance you cannot recreate default Hawke. His facial hair for one thing is not one of the options. I really dont get that.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I assumed that was a demo issue.Thnikkaman said:
Thnikkaman said:
Yeah, I didn't realize what was going on, thought I may have just been locked in a combat animation or something, because it is completely unintuitive for drinking a potion to be a party-based cooldown and not a personal one. And there's no indicator.