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Dragon Age II |OT| The Revenge of Shit Mountain
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As said it was needed on normal on the PC. But more than that the game should be reviewed on the default difficulty setting as much as possible. My guess is like 85% of people only touch the difficulty setting to lower it when stuck. You should review the game for what most people will experience.chris-013 said:
meltingparappa
Member
I can weather pre-order bonuses that are largely inconsequential, I'm ok with copy and pasted dungeons as a consequence of so quick a turnaround, but cliffhanger endings are by far the worst thing in videogame stories, and so when it's (apparently) in a heavily story-based game like this, it makes me rage out.
Shake Appeal
Member
Holy good God those sex scenes...
The problem is not only the difficulty though (I can't really judge that by how little I've played of the demo). The issue is how clunky the controls and movement are (on PC). The original really controlled far better than this one does.
Maybe the combat would feel awesome and satisfying if it controlled well. Currently, the action feels very disconnected from the controls.
Maybe the combat would feel awesome and satisfying if it controlled well. Currently, the action feels very disconnected from the controls.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
meltingparappa said:
This and everything else people are complaining about just convinces me even further that Bioware doesn't care much about their true fans.
GillianSeed79
Member
Can anyone help me out? I'm confused about some of the unlockables. I got the signature edition. The unlockables menu refers you to Bioware's social site to enter the promo code, which I did and it was accepted. Then you are supposed to look at the list of promo bonuses. I think their site has a typo or something because there's stuff that says you'll unlock if you like DA2 on Facebook. I don't have a Facebook account, but that stuff is unlocked. The stuff that's listed as Signature Edition unlockables on the DA2 site are not unlocked for me other than than the prince quest thing and online pass. I do have the SE digital soundtrack unlocked. At this point I don't really care tbh. I spent about an hour or two just registering and downloading all the pre-release DLC.
TheExodu5 said:
Yeah I didn't like the way it controlled in the demo, in general.
But what I truly hate is what they've done to the camera views. I'm not a claustrophobic person at all but the limited top-down view in DA2 actually makes me feel it to some extent. Nobody can logically explain why the fuck they wouldn't have let you pull back just a bit further. It's absolutely absurd.
bishopcruz
Member
diffusionx said:
If it was from some random eastern european company though, PC Gaf would probaly be in love with it.
whatevermort
Member
bishopcruz said:
Yup: they'd be arguing that the 6 was a score that had to be given because of its flaws, but that even though the textures are a bit janky and the controls slightly slack, it's all about the heart and the great characters, and they make it a classic.
Brewster's Wallet
Member
That's a smackdown?DaBuddaDa said:
Seems like it fails in some places but is very good in others. Worth a play through, but maybe not on day 1 i think
The only explanation I've ever heard from the mouths of the developers was that they wanted the player to be able to explore more "full" environments including BAD ASS CEILINGS that wouldn't be viewable if the camera was pulled way out.Zeliard said:
I'm not joking or making this up. I literally never heard any other explanation.
Yeah man, that's one of the biggest smackdowns I've ever read!Brewster's Wallet said:
Lostconfused
Member
I blame the camera position. Its a lot higher up compared to DA:O that when you zoom in it ends up being right over your character's shoulder. I have no idea who decided for it to be that way, or why they thought it was a good thing.TheExodu5 said:
Hell yeah we would. They are making some the best games you can play.bishopcruz said:
bishopcruz said:
nah, shit is shit, no matter how you spin it. I'm not saying this about DA2 though, haven't properly played it yet.
Eastern European devs don't scale back on mechanics, graphics and don't pretend that they do a Serious Mature Story With Grey Choice and Consequences except for one game which actually delivers it.
I don't think the new combat system should be viewed as an improvement, or a downgrade either. It's a completely different genre of RPG type. Sure, you may like this type more than the type of the original DA, but that doesn't make it "improved". It's simply different.
The first was tactical mechanics-wise, kind of turn based, slow and strategy-like, with generally real-like movement and toned down animations. The combat of DA2 is primarily designed for an action RPG, even if it grudgingly allows pausing in the PC, with the aesthetics of Xena meets Hellraiser meets God of War, endless unrealistic tumbles and explosions of enemies.
I know I'm not saying something new here but it is annoying to call this an "improvement". It's NOT an improvement as that would imply evolution of the same type. It is a different type of game (as far as combat is concerned) designed to appeal to different tastes. Good for you if you like it, good for you if you don't.
The first was tactical mechanics-wise, kind of turn based, slow and strategy-like, with generally real-like movement and toned down animations. The combat of DA2 is primarily designed for an action RPG, even if it grudgingly allows pausing in the PC, with the aesthetics of Xena meets Hellraiser meets God of War, endless unrealistic tumbles and explosions of enemies.
I know I'm not saying something new here but it is annoying to call this an "improvement". It's NOT an improvement as that would imply evolution of the same type. It is a different type of game (as far as combat is concerned) designed to appeal to different tastes. Good for you if you like it, good for you if you don't.
graywolf323
Member
bishopcruz said:
if that's a knock against The Witcher and you haven't played it then you are a moron
Zeliard said:
indeed. I can expect armor clipping, NPCs not reacting to the fight and a main character not reacting to giant boulder falling on his head from 20-man studio on like 4 million budget (at most) but not from supposedly AAA-game.
graywolf323 said:
nah, I think it's about Risen, Two Worlds II, Divinity II.
Lostconfused
Member
That's still incredibly stupid. Those games are good for what they are.subversus said:
Does anyone know how the DA2 reviews are fairing against, say, Risen, Two Worlds 2, or Divinity 2? As someone else said earlier in the thread, reading some of these reviews I totally get the impression that if wasn't Bioware and was just some Euro-dev, the actually numbers would be lower.
*edit: Whoa, beaten
*edit: Whoa, beaten
bigdaddygamebot
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The_Darkest_Red said:
Clearly there's more money to be made from the other demographics.
If so...good luck to them.
For those of you who are jaded and disappointed with Dragon Age 2, please give the expansion/enhancement Divinity II: Dragon Knight Saga a chance. I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised at how much fun it is.subversus said:
Lostconfused said:
yeah, they have jank if it is what he meant. But they're not made by a huge team with millions of $ behind them.
DaBuddaDa said:
Starts a bit slow (first two hours) but then you'll be opening up new mechanics for a very long time. Always feels fresh and light-hearted.
Kinspiracy
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Spookie said:
I don't alter anything when the game still costs full price.
Kinspiracy
Banned
graywolf323 said:
Maybe he watched a live feed of someone playing it.
Lostconfused
Member
Meta criticLoxley said:Does anyone know how the DA2 reviews are fairing against, say, Risen, Two Worlds 2, or Divinity 2? As someone else said earlier in the thread, reading some of these reviews I totally get the impression that if wasn't Bioware and was just some Euro-dev, the actually numbers would be lower.
*edit: Whoa, beaten
Dragon Age 2 : 86
Divinity 2 DKS : 82
Two Worlds II : 75
Risen : 75
Dragon Knight saga $40Kinspiracy said:
BattleMonkey
Member
Reviews are so funny around here.
"oh my god this game is going to get bad reviews"
"holding back reviews? They must expect shitty reviews"
"Good reviews? Must be paid off"
"Mercy scores for Bioware lol"
"oh my god this game is going to get bad reviews"
"holding back reviews? They must expect shitty reviews"
"Good reviews? Must be paid off"
"Mercy scores for Bioware lol"
DaBuddaDa said:
Wasn't that actually where the whole "hot textures" thing came about? They didn't want you to pull back too far for graphical reasons, even though it clearly gets in the way of gameplay.
I did generally go over-the-shoulder in DA:O when I was traversing the environments, simply because it's far easier to travel around when you can see towards the horizon, but in combat I was exclusively in the iso-like view.
There is no reason you would ever want to have the camera close-up during combat unless you're trying to zoom in to get a better view of a decapitation, or whatever. For tactical purposes, and for general manageability, it was always better to be in iso.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Exactly. The game is a masterpiece. It has transcended its medium.BattleMonkey said:
I have been trying to get people to give Drakensang: River of Time a go. It's 1/3 of the price and a way closer to a Baldur's Gate spiritual successor than Dragon Age.DaBuddaDa said:
Don't forget that 40 bucks gets you both the Main game and the expansion. That is well over 100 hours of action RPG.Lostconfused said:
Lostconfused said:
There's no doubt that Dragon Age 2 is overall more polished than games like Risen...but games like Risen bring something unique to the table that many of us don't get to experience in games anymore: challenge and discovery. Dragon Age 2 is very much traversing the well known, with a nice coat of paint on it.
ProtoCents
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Big Papa Husker said:
No Signature Editions were on the shelf or the DA2 end cap. I tried to ask about if any were available at customer service and they had no idea what I was talking about.
Lostconfused
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My hang up is that I don't fully understand the Dark Eye mechanics and I don't want to buy an actual rule book to read up on them.Ceebs said:
DaBuddaDa said:
Really hated the non expansion version on 360. I made it to the part you get the tower and finally unlock the dragon and almost fell asleep. I guess with mods the game can be really amazing but the console version sucked really bad. There were huge balance issues with the game. Good luck playing as a mage... I had to glitch bosses in the environment so I could beat them. There was this one guy who would one shot me with explosive arrow until I glitched him in a path.