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Dragon Age: Origins |OT| Letting The Fade fade out of memory
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SenorDingDong
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RbBrdMan said:
I believe you have to ask around for her in dust town and then enter the hovel where you will be jumped by her thugs and you go from there.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Thats hilarious. There is a certain something about armchair Henry Higgins getting owned :lolethelred said:
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Zalasta said:
I visited the shop and
some how got into a fight with the owner and now he is dead
Addressing the other helpful post. Are you sure the
thugs that jump me aren't the thugs I've already run off upon first entering dust town?
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
RbBrdMan said:
Assuming the thugs you were referring to had a quest symbol and was trying to get you to smuggle lyrium to the mage circle, then no. They are completely unrelated. Only thing I can suggest is make sure you talk to everyone (again if necessary). It's been a while but I remember
being ambushed by a bunch of guys while visiting my home (I played dwarf commoner and the house was the last one in dust town) who then gave up the location to the underground lair. There was a dialogue option with the shop owner but I don't know if he's an actual trigger for the event
ElectricBlue187
Member
I love the scene where Allister asks Shale if he sleeps at night, such awesome writing
ElectricBlue187
Member
:lolNumber 2 said:
I actually like Allister a lot more than most male Bioware companion characters
Wow that just made me think of how much different Allister must be if you're a dwarven male instead of a cute elven girl like my character
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Lafiel said:
I feel like I'm trying harder in this game than I do in real life!
The Lilliana tip was a good one above, I think I may have messed up Morrigan for now since I picked too many 'why are you here?' dialogue options (thinking they were positive). Bah.
Dust Town/Orzamar Q:SenorDingDong said:
That's funny, I went to Orzamar and now it almost seems like there's nothing to do. I went to the palace, the council, and harrowmont's and just haven't found anything. I guess I could go back and check more closely since I just hurried out and finished a couple other storylines in the meantime. fwiw though, I also went to dust town before the proving, and killed some goons who jumped me, then killed the lyrium smuggler guy, and wrapped up the baby storyline. hm. thankfully it's dragon age so i'm not exactly wanting for ways to get quests, for now....
That's funny, I killed him straight away (first option) and he didn't come back. Been at least five hours since so I'm pretty sure he's gone for good.
Nother obversation (Dalish Elves storyline):
I found it weird that I got the "sided with the Elves" achievement. I was with the Werewolves all the way, not in the sense of attacking Zathrian straight away, but I told him either he cures the curse or I'll make him. And ultimately I had to and the humans turned back. Not sure how this counts as siding with the Elves. I don't like Elves (see above) and I want my opinion of them properly reflected in the record!
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Anyway, what's the most efficient way to play as Arcane Warrior? Just pump into magic and constitution?
I just unlocked it and I keep dying, I feel like my magic doesn't do as much damage as it used to if that makes sense... plus since I have a sword/shield equipped, it takes longer to get spells out since he has to sheathe them both before firing so enemies have a chance to swarm me before they get blasted, hmmm
I just unlocked it and I keep dying, I feel like my magic doesn't do as much damage as it used to if that makes sense... plus since I have a sword/shield equipped, it takes longer to get spells out since he has to sheathe them both before firing so enemies have a chance to swarm me before they get blasted, hmmm
Philthy
Member
Takuhi said:
I wouldn't worry about it. I'm about 20 hours in and I have loved every single dungeon so far. Some are long, yes, but they toss enough variety into them that it makes it really fun regardless. Also, I've found that there are decent weapons and armor within them, you just need to look harder, do the side quests to get them. It's a lot like Baulders Gate before the expansions. The good loot is there, you just need to really look for it.
Takuhi said:
I've found with Normal, that I had some really challenging fights, but nothing over the top. I died maybe five times to the first big boss, and a few times to other mistakes. I've also made it past quite a few just barely. I feel the difficulty has been perfect.
It depends how you want to play. If you want to be mainly melee then aim to put points into dexterity (to avoid the constant miss, miss, miss, miss, etc.), magic and willpower. I would only go into constitution if you were thinking about becoming a blood mage too. I've found the Arcane Shield that you can get as an arcane warrior is pretty solid, and the best way to keep it up is to make sure you have enough willpower to keep it juiced up.John Harker said:
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
AstroLad said:
Well...
I made the same decision to force Zathrian to cure the curse which ends up killing him and the tree chick. It kinda makes sense in that the elves get to live and don't have to fight/get turned into werewolves anymore.
If you want to side with the Werewolves, you can persuade the tree chick to basically seek revenge on all the Dalish elves that cursed them >
. I believe that gets you a werewolf army at the end of the game.
If you want to side with the Werewolves, you can persuade the tree chick to basically seek revenge on all the Dalish elves that cursed them >
. I believe that gets you a werewolf army at the end of the game.Doytch said:Ohhh man. That lyrium smuggler gets you money. I didn't have the money first time around, and he left, so I reverted and waited it out. Best black-market dealing I've ever had in a game. Especially with cranked Persuasion.
Oh yeah, that was great.
Bought the lyrium at 40 Gold, sold for 65 gold and a dagger. Blackmailed the buyer to get another 8 gold. Return to the seller to get another 25 gold. :lol
Dalish Elf Storyline:AstroLad said:
You only side with the werewolves if you convince them to slaughter all of the untainted elves at the Dalish camp. You have to respond something like "I have a better idea, kill them all." during your first conversation with the Lady of the Forest and you need to have Coercion III to succeed in convincing them.
MirageDwarf
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One thing I noticed is small bridges in towns are triggers for party banters.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Pankaks said:Well...
I made the same decision to force Zathrian to cure the curse which ends up killing him and the tree chick. It kinda makes sense in that the elves get to live and don't have to fight/get turned into werewolves anymore.
If you want to side with the Werewolves, you can persuade the tree chick to basically seek revenge on all the Dalish elves that cursed them >
I actually wanted to ask the same thing: netting on the side of the elves achievment was weird to me too since
I had to kill their leader and turn the werewolves back to humans
That was more or less what I wanted, so it's fine, but if what you say is true
having a werewolf army at the end seems way cooler!
Also, any way to get the whats-her-face dalish elf girl who is the new keeper to trust you again? I tried to open the chest that's behind her twice now and it pretty much pissed her off. I wanna know what's inside tho
Killthee said:
Yes, it's sort of a win-win in the end there though. And the ultimate fight was against Zathrian because you're forcing him to do something he doesn't want to do. If you go this route you should be given both humans and elves to help you fight the darkspawn. Lousy ungrateful humans.
ElectricBlue187
Member
Mine left tooDoytch said:Ohhh man. That lyrium smuggler gets you money. I didn't have the money first time around, and he left, so I reverted and waited it out. Best black-market dealing I've ever had in a game. Especially with cranked Persuasion.
and I wanted to do the deal!
ElectricBlue187
Member
I think you usually get the same reward anyway, you just feel like less of a douchenozzleAstroLad said:
Some characters will like you more.AstroLad said:
That is the big constant impact the choices you make have in the game. Some characters like it if you're a douche, some want you to be captain chivalrous all the time.
That does matter some as characters get bonuses for higher disposition towards you.
*edit* And yes, what you get as a reward will vary depending on your dialog. You can turn down rewards at various points and you can try to extort more at others.
Regarding the Asunder quest:
. With spoiling anything, is there something I'm missing. Will something happen later in the game?
Okay, so I gather all three body parts, brought them to the altar and quicksaved my game. I selected "reward" and he gave me 25g and disappeared. I reloaded my quicksave and this time I killed the fade spirit. However, I got no loot off him and no other reward, but the quest was listed as completed in my Journal. I mean it seem really lame to give evil characters 25g and good characters nothing for doing the right thing and killing this beast
Oh you mean my own party members? Or just other people in the game? Damn, I am getting screwed if it's the former because I almost never see +x after saying "oh no my dear, I wouldn't possibly accept some fucking gloves after killing 100 monsters for you." Should be +10 to everyone except Morrigan (-20).Drek said:
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
MirageDwarf said:
Also go into the back rooms of the gnawed noble tavern (where the
guy that gives you assassination missions is
AstroLad said:
Protip: Oghren likes you more if you fuck people!
fizzelopeguss
Banned
ethelred said:
pretty much, the only dude that sounds assy is king cailan.
Game needs more lancashire accents though...like mine.
"Eet ain't 'alf grim up nooorth"
Yes, your own party members.AstroLad said:
They need to be in the party for it to happen. If someone speaks up during dialog chances are they'll have some kind of adjustment. Sometimes its kind of weird what each one of them likes and dislikes.
Here's a few examples from Redcliffe:
When you first talk with Bana Teagan you can offer to help. When you do that Sten and Morrigan will make comments. Sten says this is getting in the way of killing the darkspawn, but if your coercion is high enough you can persuade him to be amenable to helping. This will give him a +2. Morrigan just expresses some displeasure with it. She's a -2 no matter what. I'm no sure but I believe Alistair and Leliana will both also get a +2 if you offer to help.
Later in town you can find Berwick in the inn. If you go through the dialog and find out why he's there you get to chose what to do with him. If you make him help defend the town Sten gets a +2 and comments that he finds your choice of punishment appropriate.
When you talk to the smithy and he wants you to promise you'll save his daughter you'll get a -5 with both Sten and Morrigan, who both comment negatively on making a promise.
If you help the knights get Maker medallions from Mother Hannah Leliana will have a -5 reaction because "faith should come from within".
If you help the young woman inside the Chantry find her little brother you'll get a +1 for Leliana just by saying you'll help, then a bigger plus (+5 I think) when you finish. If in the course of that short quest you get their family sword you can either take it as the quest reward (no money to the woman) at which point Sten speaks up and gives 1 gold sovereign to her and you get a -2. If you give 5 gold sovereigns he says nothing and you get no plus. If you give the 1 gold sovereign before he speaks up he'll commend you and you'll get a +2 with him. If you fish for the kiss from the girl you'll lose the big plus from Leliana and instead get a matching negative, with a comment about you being rather uncouth.
Later in town you can find Berwick in the inn. If you go through the dialog and find out why he's there you get to chose what to do with him. If you make him help defend the town Sten gets a +2 and comments that he finds your choice of punishment appropriate.
When you talk to the smithy and he wants you to promise you'll save his daughter you'll get a -5 with both Sten and Morrigan, who both comment negatively on making a promise.
If you help the knights get Maker medallions from Mother Hannah Leliana will have a -5 reaction because "faith should come from within".
If you help the young woman inside the Chantry find her little brother you'll get a +1 for Leliana just by saying you'll help, then a bigger plus (+5 I think) when you finish. If in the course of that short quest you get their family sword you can either take it as the quest reward (no money to the woman) at which point Sten speaks up and gives 1 gold sovereign to her and you get a -2. If you give 5 gold sovereigns he says nothing and you get no plus. If you give the 1 gold sovereign before he speaks up he'll commend you and you'll get a +2 with him. If you fish for the kiss from the girl you'll lose the big plus from Leliana and instead get a matching negative, with a comment about you being rather uncouth.
That is just a single snippet of what you can get for reactions within a town.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
AstroLad said:
For the most part, but there are a few events where certain party members can get pissed at you if they're not in your active party. Example:
Wynne will leave if you put blood in the ashes if she's not in your party when you do it. I think if she's actually with you she'll attack you.
I still have this in plastic... I'm not the biggest RPG guy around, but have played some. I am really drawn to the theme in this game (I love fantasy, LOTR, medieval, etc).
I also did play KOTOR on the xbox and did like it back in the day. I am primarily a 1p guy (no xbox live), but I don't really care if this game was 12 hours or 60.
However, I'm getting cold feet on this due to impressions of how the 360 port is really not that good. I think most of these are based on the graphics not being as good as the PC version, or even compared to something such as Mass Effect. I've also seen stuff related to control issues...
I'm getting ready to offload this for credit to pick up another recently released game... Am I making a big mistake? I don't have any means to play this on PC or ps3
I also did play KOTOR on the xbox and did like it back in the day. I am primarily a 1p guy (no xbox live), but I don't really care if this game was 12 hours or 60.
However, I'm getting cold feet on this due to impressions of how the 360 port is really not that good. I think most of these are based on the graphics not being as good as the PC version, or even compared to something such as Mass Effect. I've also seen stuff related to control issues...
I'm getting ready to offload this for credit to pick up another recently released game... Am I making a big mistake? I don't have any means to play this on PC or ps3
ShadowPampers
Banned
Is there any use for precious gems, like diamonds and rubies later on? Or should I just sell them?
What about random items like a silver bowl/cup?
They keep taking up space but im wary of selling them
What about random items like a silver bowl/cup?
They keep taking up space but im wary of selling them
ShadowPampers said:
10 Garnet stones will be needed on a quest. They're about as abundant as gall bladders so save them if you want to do that quest line later.
Cheap stones will be asked for, but I think they just give a tiny bit of XP. I'd rather have the sovereigns and inventory space.