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Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle |OT2| Passing Stones
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Piku_Ringo
Banned
Already Use 120 stones on the AGL Banner days ago, main thing I wanted from that was SSJ3 GT Goku to round out my Mono team. Didn't get 'em. Ten stones less is still ten stones less.
I'm super confused on how the Broly Dokkan Event works. I've got characters with Blazing Battle to disable Rampage, but it doesn't seem to be working? Does it only activate sometimes? And sometimes I do barely any damage at all but other times it's all fine?
Haven't had too much of a problem otherwise, just a tad confused.
Haven't had too much of a problem otherwise, just a tad confused.
They have to be linked to disable it.
There are characters with the passive "Disable Rampage" that remove it though.
http://dbz-dokkanbattle.wikia.com/wiki/Berserker_of_Destruction
I'm using two characters who have that as their passive but it doesn't seem to be taking so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Same with the issues dealing damage. I see I'm supposed to lower damage, but even after using SAs that do that it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Or at least I've seen him do rampage at least once when I had SSJ Trunks or SSJ Gohan on the field. Just now the popup at the start of the turn for Trunks to disable Rampage, which was then followed by Broly doing Rampage.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Finally dokkaned STR Broly. Now back on the hunt for the rest of Rose's medals.
Is it possible for you to assemble a mostly mono STR double SSJ4 Goku team, and nuke the fuck outta him with that?
Is it possible for you to assemble a mostly mono STR double SSJ4 Goku team, and nuke the fuck outta him with that?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
"rampage" isn't a move.
It's his damage nullify ability and damage increase on attacks.
When disable rampage or blazing battle is active you can damage him normally and broly's damage won't make stupid high spikes either.
Assembling a strong str team only works on stage 2, on stage 3 you can only damage him with either blazing battle, disable rampage or "greatly lower defence" on SA.
SS4 goku doesn't have greatly lowers defence, so him supering for 1m would still do like 50 damage.
So if you have any greatly lowers SA units, mono str bodies him real fast, otherwise you're not doing any damage.
Yeah I could make a mono STR team though my SSJ4 Goku isn't dokkaned yet. Wouldn't that just be subject to the damage reduction then?
Hmm alright. I need to look at these turns. I had a friend SSJ4 Vegeta who would sometimes do immense damage with his SA and other times none. I'll need to see if Trunks or Gohan were present when that happened. I thought the disable Rampage stopped that target all attack he does sometimes.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
If you use add like a SSJ4 Vegeta to the team mostly for the links they share and his SA Defense reducer, or use Nurse Chichi item I don't see how you wouldn't make all 3 versions of broly yer bitch in short order like I do with that team. Though I also have STR SSJ3 Goku for the defense reduction too
Not sure if I have any Nurse Chi-Chi items, but I could try that.
I'm still incredibly confused on how disabling Rampage works. I had Gohan out who has that as his passive and yet I still did next to no damage with others. Does it only work for those that have that skill or the blazing battle link with the others just being fodder. That doesn't explain how sometimes they do damage just fine though. Do crits override rampage? I just had SSJ3 GT Goku, SV and VB out. First did nothing, super on the second and it took him out.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
yes Crits ignore defence, rampage boosts broly's defence. So you just hit for your full 1.9x damage.
And yes blazing battle is only for the character that has it, it's no different from links.
And yes blazing battle is only for the character that has it, it's no different from links.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Definitely try that and let me know how it works. IMO it's a better method than wasting time trying to disable rampage.
So Disable Rampage in the passive description, like the link, only applies to them? So my only hope of doing damage to Broly is either that my SSJ Trunks and Gohan slowly damage him over time with their SA or that I get crits with any of my other characters?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
The team I used to bully poor broly in the past was:
Str omega lead
str great saiyaman 2
broly event videl
family goten
str great saiyaman
ss3 vegeta
str omega friend
kept omega and goten on one rotation and the videls on the other.
This means I kept greatly lowering his defence non-stop, basically killing him in 2 turns.
Yes, it only affects the character who has it, like family gohan.
Str omega lead
str great saiyaman 2
broly event videl
family goten
str great saiyaman
ss3 vegeta
str omega friend
kept omega and goten on one rotation and the videls on the other.
This means I kept greatly lowering his defence non-stop, basically killing him in 2 turns.
Yes, it only affects the character who has it, like family gohan.
They were lowering it with the SA, right? Or the passive? I've been using SSJR Black and SSJ4 Vegeta which both say to greatly lower defense, but it doesn't seem to work or if it does it is incredibly infrequent.
That seems a bit limiting.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
it's not infrequent, 1 greatly lowers defence SA only affects cards that are SA10.
Any other card will still do no damage.
However if you get 2 greatly lowers defence SA ( the debuff lasts 2 turns), SA1 cards can damage broly normally as well.
So in the example of my team, broly is constantly double greatly lowered defence and thus takes full damage from every card that supers.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
Ughhhh lost on thw final round of what would be my 10 win because literally everyone I face runs mono AGL rose lead. I also wasn't paying attention
Oh so that's how it works for this. I guess that would explain why SV would sometimes do regular high damage just fine as his SA is max while SSJR was only at 8. Okay then. I've got a dokkaned Omega so maybe if I add him in it may go better.
Edit: So I did Omega's super and followed it up with SSJ4 Goku who has SA 10. Both did next to no damage despite Omega's SA saying it greatly lowers defense. Now Omega only has level 1 SA so is that why it didn't work?
Edit 2: Okay, next turn did SA10 SSJ4 Vegeta followed by SV, which DID work. So I guess that's it. Which means I'll have to rely on SSJ4 Vegeta or SSJR (just made that SA 10 as I forgot I had some kais) to make this work.
Edit 3: Or not. Got to third stage and started with the same setup only both did almost no damage. I'm so confused as there doesn't seem to be any consistency to this.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Were you doing stage 2?
Greatly lowers isn't needed for stage 2, anybody that hits reasonably hard will do damage.
In stage 3, two greatly lowers SA's should cause everyone do to damage.
Edit:
Yeah just tried it with:
str omega
str ssj gt trunks
family goten
family goku
ss3 vegeta
str saiyaman 2
str omega friend.
Kept omega + trunks on one rotation and saiyaman 2 and omega on the other, first omega is at SA10 and did damage right away, saiyaman then lowered his defence again and also did damage.
Next turn omega killed him with a 1.3m crit.
Greatly lowers isn't needed for stage 2, anybody that hits reasonably hard will do damage.
In stage 3, two greatly lowers SA's should cause everyone do to damage.
Edit:
Yeah just tried it with:
str omega
str ssj gt trunks
family goten
family goku
ss3 vegeta
str saiyaman 2
str omega friend.
Kept omega + trunks on one rotation and saiyaman 2 and omega on the other, first omega is at SA10 and did damage right away, saiyaman then lowered his defence again and also did damage.
Next turn omega killed him with a 1.3m crit.
Stage 2 was sometimes giving me problems if I couldn't get it going but Stage 3 was the problem. I managed to get it though it felt inconsistent at times. I'd have one turn where Vegeta would get his SA, only do 100 dmg, then Goku SA for the same despite both having SA 10. If I was able to get Omega, SSJR or Vegeta on the same turn with Supers I could get something going.
In any case, it's finished. I suppose I'll need to do that again if I ever get STR Broly, though that likely won't be any time soon.
I think I may be able to handle Buuhan though I need to farm SRs as well.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I don't really understand what kind of team you are using, but it doesn't sound like you're taking advantage of leader skills.
Broly still has a shitton of defence after one greatly lowers, so you'd still need to be able to pack a punch to damage him.
Dual omega is a +140% boost on the attack of all my str units.
Broly still has a shitton of defence after one greatly lowers, so you'd still need to be able to pack a punch to damage him.
Dual omega is a +140% boost on the attack of all my str units.
Team was:
UR Super Vegito
TUR SSJR Black
TUR Omega Shenron
UR SSJ4 Goku
UR SSJ3 GT Goku
SSR SSJ Kid Trunks
Friend UR SSJ4 Vegeta
Reizo Ryuu
Member
On that team ssj4 vegeta would have an SA damage of ~415k.
On my team Omega has an optimal SA damage of ~595k. My omega only did 200k the first time.
Which is roughly 200k more than ssj4 vegeta, so it checks out that your vegeta does no damage on his first grealy lowers SA, apparantly it's not enough to get past broly's damage; on that team you need two SA's to get through it, or raise vegeta's attack to above 500k.
On my team Omega has an optimal SA damage of ~595k. My omega only did 200k the first time.
Which is roughly 200k more than ssj4 vegeta, so it checks out that your vegeta does no damage on his first grealy lowers SA, apparantly it's not enough to get past broly's damage; on that team you need two SA's to get through it, or raise vegeta's attack to above 500k.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Finally got all the Rose Colored Terrorist medals to dokkan Rose
Ah so it's partially a damage threshold you need to meet. Alright that explains it a bit more. Of course neither of my Omegas can do that amount of damage yet. Didn't have enough orbs for paths and both of their SA are at one which was another issue for me.
Nice. I managed to get Black, Rose and Broly done today. Working on Buuhan but don't think I'll finish that one today. Need to farm the SR cards for his SA anyway.
SV is priority tomorrow. After that not sure. I could probably dokkan SSBKK and SSB Goku but I read something about there being a farmable for both from a past event so I don't now if I should hold off.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
Finally got PHY Kaioken Goku. Such a cool looking SA when he's dokkan awakened.
Permanently A
Junior Member
I'm confused, why do people in the WT have saibamen?
Crimsonlink
Member
lol What team are you using? If your team is like 1 UR with a bunch of SRs turned into SSRs, they can end up giving you a partial Saibamen team to make up the cost difference.
Permanently A
Junior Member
mono super agl on last page
Piku_Ringo
Banned
That's why you stock up on Baba and Pilaf and bring both to these things and always use them first turn. Take no chances
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Cooler incoming.
Human Trashcan
Banned
I bet they put Omega on the banner to make it more enticing. That's the only way I can see myself summoning on it at all
Yay got the medals to dokkan SSJ4 Goku. Next up is SV though not sure what team to go with for this. I technically have enough cards with Fierce Battle to make an entire team, but am only rank 134 and thus don't have enough team cost to go with it. Gogeta and SSJ3 Vegeta seem like musts since Gogeta hits hard and Vegeta can block damage well with his passive.
Not sure if maybe I should try to Dokkan one of the other units here first to bring to that fight.
https://dbz.space/box/Voror
Not sure if maybe I should try to Dokkan one of the other units here first to bring to that fight.
https://dbz.space/box/Voror
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I wouldn't take any str characters to SV, he'd hit gogeta like a mack truck.
Your box is private.
Your box is private.
Huh, I'd read both could be good as Gogeta hits all types effectively and SSJ3 Vegeta can tank hits pretty well for a time.
Huh thought I'd checked that off. Should be public now.
Switched from 3x to 20x since I finished my 20 win streak. Then immediately forgot I did it and nearly got shredded down because I wasn't paying attention to my health.
Streak almost got broken later. STR SSJ3 Goku pulled off a super against my PHY SSB Vegito. Couldn't have moved him because I was dealing with a LR Broly in the same turn. Did over 12000 damage. Survived with less than 600 health.
Streak almost got broken later. STR SSJ3 Goku pulled off a super against my PHY SSB Vegito. Couldn't have moved him because I was dealing with a LR Broly in the same turn. Did over 12000 damage. Survived with less than 600 health.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Rosé lead
black
broly
str omega
buuhan
golden freeza
Rosé friend
Keep rosé + black on one rotation and rosé + golden freeza or omega on another.
Don't have enough team cost to run that sadly. That's going to be more of a problem as I dokkan more of these so I'd probably better spend some time grinding ranks.
I'll give that one a shot though and see how it works out. Thanks!
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Anyone know's how well a SSJ4 Goku lead team hangs in the Beerus event?
TeamLeftMatch
Member
If you have SSG Goku, you've won the battle before it even began.
If you don't have SSG Goku, you've still won the battle. SSJ4 Goku breaks the game and Beerus is no exception.
bennywhatever
Member
Oh hey thanks for all those AGL orbs from the World Tournam-
