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Dragon Quest X |OT| Import Solution Found

extralite

Member
Were you asked to collect some drop items from enemies? If I remember correctly those were needed before you have to wait 24 hours for the repair to finish.
 

Gloam

Member
Oh I thought I just had to go inspect that pillar in the cave to the west? I'll check the text quest again, using google translate so it's all a bit fuzzy!
 

extralite

Member
Let's talk about the inevitable expansion.

DQX requires an 16 GB USB stick to be played. The install only takes up like 6 GB on the Wii U storage though. And going by the install time (2 DVDs, the second one taking only like 1/3 or 1/4 of the first one) of the Wii version, that one didn't even use 8 GB of the space either.

So by requiring 16GB instead of 8, it is quite evident that they are planning to expand the world of DQX greatly. The game plot has people alking about going to Rendashia, which will likely be the new territories to be added.

It will be interesting to see when that will hit and if it will be just a huge update or if there will be an expansion disc.
 

Gloam

Member
I would think SE will go the boxed expansion root; more hype and you can charge more money for it. I'd be interested to see how they expand the game, whether or not they add any new races or try to tie the game into older entries in the series with new continents etc.
 

LtOrange

Member
Let's talk about the inevitable expansion.

DQX requires an 16 GB USB stick to be played. The install only takes up like 6 GB on the Wii U storage though. And going by the install time (2 DVDs, the second one taking only like 1/3 or 1/4 of the first one) of the Wii version, that one didn't even use 8 GB of the space either.

So by requiring 16GB instead of 8, it is quite evident that they are planning to expand the world of DQX greatly. The game plot has people alking about going to Rendashia, which will likely be the new territories to be added.

It will be interesting to see when that will hit and if it will be just a huge update or if there will be an expansion disc.

I hope they go the disc route over just a big update. That way it doesn't feel like any old monthly patch and it something I can physically own. I loved picking up my FFXI expansion packs and still have them to this day.
 

gohanrage

Member
I really want this game but I want it for Wii U. Now that Nintendo has an HD graphic Console. I am definitely buying any games for it they release on both Wii and Wii U.

I bought Dragon Quest VIII in 2010 I still haven't beat the game.
 

Gloam

Member
I really want this game but I want it for Wii U. Now that Nintendo has an HD graphic Console. I am definitely buying any games for it they release on both Wii and Wii U.

I bought Dragon Quest VIII in 2010 I still haven't beat the game.

No time like the present, beat DQVIII it's great! Given that we'll probably be waiting awhile for any new DQ game to come over you could catch up on other entries you've missed.
 

ryz

Member
Hello, I've been following this guide to install the PC version of Dragon Quest X.

I'm in the offline portion of the game right now. I've created a character, my sibling and had to choose one of those statues. Right after this, there was a cutscene where i've received a magical book and my character got teleported away.
I was then dropped out of the game. I can choose my character but i'm then stuck at this dialog:

dqxeprp7.png



Any help?
 

Aeana

Member
Hello, I've been following this guide to install the PC version of Dragon Quest X.

I'm in the offline portion of the game right now. I've created a character, my sibling and had to choose one of those statues. Right after this, there was a cutscene where i've received a magical book and my character got teleported away.
I was then dropped out of the game. I can choose my character but i'm then stuck at this dialog:

http://abload.de/img/dqxeprp7.png[IMG]


Any help?[/QUOTE]
It says you need to return to the launcher and choose online mode. But if you don't have a Japanese internet connection or a VPN, you won't be able to play it.
 

KiTA

Member
It says you need to return to the launcher and choose online mode. But if you don't have a Japanese internet connection or a VPN, you won't be able to play it.

It's worse than that -- if you aren't on a VPN when you first connect to your Square Enix account for the first time, it's permanently flagged as a barbarian's account and you're auto banned from DQX. There's discussion on Woodus's forum about when to make sure the VPN is active.
 
Hey guys, I'm working on some blog posts about translating bits of Dragon Quest X - but could do with some help:

Is my translation even remotely correct?

英雄フォステイルの 肖像画だ。
絵の中の英雄は すずしげに笑っている。

英雄 ー えいゆう ー e i yu u – heroine
肖像画 ー しょうぞうが ー sho u zo u ga – portrait
絵 ー え ー e – picture
中 ー なか ー na ka – in
笑 ー わら ー wa ra – laugh

This is the heroine, Fosuteiru’s portait.
You are laughing at the heroine in the picture.
http://kanjigamer.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/dragon-quest-x-heroine-fosuteirus-portrait/

If this appears to be a cheap shot at plugging my blog - it's not - I couldn't really care less about hits on it.
If this breaks rules or something - let me know.
 

Aeana

Member
It's worse than that -- if you aren't on a VPN when you first connect to your Square Enix account for the first time, it's permanently flagged as a barbarian's account and you're auto banned from DQX. There's discussion on Woodus's forum about when to make sure the VPN is active.

You're not banned. There are ways to connect. I talked about it in the beta thread here.
 

Gloam

Member
Anyone playing the PC demo? Warmed my heart a little to see my Wii guy all crisp and clear in HD.

Might try and get the PC version when it's released, though I imagine that subscribing could prove to be problematic. Given how easy it is on the Wii I suppose that would be a solution as one could pay in Wii points, mind you that's a lotta work... Anyway, looking forward to getting back into DQ10.
 

Cmagus

Member
So with the PC version launching December 5th is it safe to assume that using the same method to get around region check for the beta will work with the final version. I am looking at pre-ordering it tonight from Play Asia but I just want to be sure that it would work. I guess I should also if there has been any confirmed payment methods for this game. I know with PSO2 you can purchase web money point cards does anyone know if this will be possible?
 

Cmagus

Member
Ok so apparently I'm confused. I pre-ordered version 2.0 for PC but I did not know that version 1.0 was released already for PC (I'm an idiot I know). Is there a way to buy version 1 digitally on the square enix japanese store or any other online retailer? I see it on the store but its blocking me by region from buying it but I was gonna VPN around it if they have a digital version any help would be appreciated.
 

extralite

Member
Are our Wii accounts able to be transferred over to the PC version?
Yes. You can use the same account with all versions.

Download and install for the Wii U version 2 was very short, less than half an hour. I hear the the Wii version install takes like 5 hours, probably because it adds the orchestra soundtrack from the U and PC version. Which isn't on the disc, almost everything is downloaded from the servers. PC version install is said to be as fast as the U one.

During the opening credits I noticed version 2 has a new scenario writer, Atsushi Narita. Like Fujisawa he already worked on the scenarios of DQVII onwards.

The monster tamer job is pretty cool. There wasn't really any room for more jobs in the equipment screen indicating what jobs could use it, but they put the tamer in a second line below warrior so I guess this means we could get up to 11 more new jobs.

New continent is awesome, about time we got some new regions to explore. Yet more old Sugiyama tracks added, which is probably the reason why they updated the Wii version in that regard. So they don't need to make two versions of every addded tune.
 

Gloam

Member
Have the Wii version ordered should be here early next week. What VPN service are you using at the moment extralite? As I understand it Overplay no longer works for DQ10.

Looking forward to wiling away some time in the casino!
 

Aeana

Member
Have the Wii version ordered should be here early next week. What VPN service are you using at the moment extralite? As I understand it Overplay no longer works for DQ10.

Looking forward to wiling away some time in the casino!

Man, really? Bleh.
Well, at least I do have a couple of other options.
 

Gloam

Member
Man, really? Bleh.
Well, at least I do have a couple of other options.

Mimas over on the Dragon's Den recommended I use IPVanish, as far as I can tell it works the same as before, just a different client.

Still might end up buying the PC version as it is less of a hassle to set-up. The PC client does seem temperamental when logging in, something which I never had a problem with on the Wii version. Decisions, decisions.
 

extralite

Member
What VPN service are you using at the moment extralite? As I understand it Overplay no longer works for DQ10.
Overplay still works (still slow), though for a time I could only use one of their servers successfully. That problem was resolved apparently.

I'm using a different VPN currently (slightly faster) but probably won't for much longer because they are discontinuing their L2TP service. I can't get PPTP to work on my router (outside Overplay's DD-WRT extension which also offers the superior OpenVPN) so I need the L2TP.
 

dcye

Member
I want this game in my life so badly but I don't want to play an import version. Sadly I doubt it will ever hit Australian shores so this is probably going to be my only option. I think I'll stick with FFXIV for now.
 

Gloam

Member
Overplay still works (still slow), though for a time I could only use one of their servers successfully. That problem was resolved apparently.

I'm using a different VPN currently (slightly faster) but probably won't for much longer because they are discontinuing their L2TP service. I can't get PPTP to work on my router (outside Overplay's DD-WRT extension which also offers the superior OpenVPN) so I need the L2TP.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Anyway, we'll see how it all goes when I dust off the Wii. Fingers crossed.

Have you had a chance to dig into the expansion at all? Is the Sabercat accessible from the get-go?
 

extralite

Member
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Anyway, we'll see how it all goes when I dust off the Wii. Fingers crossed.

Have you had a chance to dig into the expansion at all? Is the Sabercat accessible from the get-go?

Yes, I've been playing it the past two days. Haven't gotten the Sabercat yet but I have a tamer at level 15 and scouted the four monsters (Slime, Teenie Sanguini, Cat Mage and lizardman) that are available without winning at the casino.

I've also done the pyramid quest once (but not gotten an accessory) and explored several maps in Rendacia. Last stop: the arabianesque kingdom with the monster colliseum.
 

Espresso

Banned
Wait, Square's IP ban is still in place after all this time? I won't bother re-subbing if I have to deal with setting up a VPN again. FFXI/XIV never had IP bans. I wonder why DQX does.
 

Gloam

Member
Wait, Square's IP ban is still in place after all this time? I won't bother re-subbing if I have to deal with setting up a VPN again. FFXI/XIV never had IP bans. I wonder why DQX does.

FFXI and XIV were made with international play in mind, remember the auto-translation in FFXI and what not. DQX seems to be designed first and foremost for a Japanese audience, hence the region locking as silly as it is. I suppose SE don't want the experience to be negatively effected by multilingual jibber jabber.
 

Gloam

Member
I purchased the PC client today, downloaded and updated to the latest version. When I log in I don't appear to have the 20 free days that comes with a new copy of the game. Is it only the case that you get the 20 days the first time you buy a client.

I already have the Wii game so did that forfeit my 20 days of free time?
 

Aeana

Member
I purchased the PC client today, downloaded and updated to the latest version. When I log in I don't appear to have the 20 free days that comes with a new copy of the game. Is it only the case that you get the 20 days the first time you buy a client.

I already have the Wii game so did that forfeit my 20 days of free time?
Does the full client suffer from the same login issues as the Beta?
 

Gloam

Member
Does the full client suffer from the same login issues as the Beta?

As long as you start a VPN service before you click the client executable it's fine. It doesn't appear to be as sensitive as the beta and there's no messing around with timing the connection to the launch of the game executable like there was before.

Bummer that you don't appear to get any free playtime with the purchase of the PC version though... I guess I'll be getting up at 6 in the morning for Kid's Time for a couple of weeks!
 

Gloam

Member
Thanks for the info extralite!

New trailer for Version 2.1 shows some pretty cool stuff. There's a couple of new classes one of which is a Machine User; a little like the Monster Tamer class but with contraptions instead of beasties.

There's also some new fishing and cooking minigames. I enjoy fishing in most games so this is a welcome addition for me, for sure.

Patch is out on the 27th of Feb.
 

extralite

Member
Yeah, I saw that trailer on Nico Nico. On the hiroba site they also have a list of new features that will be part of the 2/27 update.

http://hiroba.dqx.jp/sc/topics/detail/35051070e572e47d2c26c241ab88307f/

Summary from my tumblr:

Version 2.1 Update

On 2/27 the new big version update hits with the following new features:

  • The second part of the Rendacia storyline will become playable.
  • A completely new job is added: The tool wielder. In addition to being able to use items more efficiently, the tool wielder can also scout monsters of the types machine and physical and cast some helpful effect spells.
  • The cooking guild opens and a new profession can be learned by players. Food already exists in the game and boosts stats for a while but now players can prepare these meals themselves.
  • Fishing will be possible at various places in the game. Players will need a fishing rod and lures and depending on the quality of the tools they use, chances to make a good catch will vary (much like the success rate at the guild mini games).
  • In addition to flowers, players will be able to grow vegetables at the fields of their homes. And there will be water tanks for the fish they catch to put in one’s house.
  • People can change the appearance of their dolboards (vehicles slightly boosting traveling speed in the field) to look like killer panthers in the dwarf capitol Dolworm. Here players can use their killer panther prism, which is a reward for playing on a paid subscription for at least 540 days. Newer players who don’t want to wait that long can also buy a white or black killer panther prism for the respective palette swap versions of the original reward mount.
  • At the pyramid, players will be able to check infos about the different rooms by searching the tombstone that leads inside, like if they already have cleared it before. If you help a player who takes on a room for the first time you can get small golden treasures.
    There will also some adjustments to the skill and weapon systems. The special traits of these will be made more transparent and differences in stats between tribes that became apparent when reaching high job levels will be taken care of. With the adjustments there are supposed to be no differences between tribes anymore.
    There will be another DQX TV program on Nico Nico detailing these changes on the 24th.
  • Several new team features will be added: Team leaders and subleaders can turn their homes into gathering spots, enabling fellow team members to freely fly there as via a ruler (teleportation) stone. The max team level will be raised from 30 to 33. And team members will be able to leave short messages for other members not currently online.
  • A new skill point reset item is added for monster tamers (and tool wielders): When a befriended monster reaches level 50, they can reincarnate. This means they return to level 1 but can equip all level armor and gain new skill sets to use skill points on. With the new reset item you can choose again which additional skill sets your reincarnated monster should acquire.
    There will also be new equipment for level 80 characters, a much asked for item to completely reset all skill points (instead of just the ones spent on specific single skill set), new ways to filter strong boss time attack rankings and various other additions like these.
 

Aeana

Member
Does anybody know if the DQXInstaller.exe that's available on the site is the full client? Or if there's a way to download the full PC client anywhere. I read that unlike FF14, it's possible to play on other platforms without actually purchasing the game on each platform as long as you have the client and have purchased one version, and it seems like buying the PC version right now is a bad value with the all-in-one edition coming out in August.
 

extralite

Member
I read that unlike FF14, it's possible to play on other platforms without actually purchasing the game on each platform as long as you have the client and have purchased one version, and it seems like buying the PC version right now is a bad value with the all-in-one edition coming out in August.
That is inaccurate, you need a registration code per platform and disc (one for the original and one for the expansion). You can however use your account on any platform.

But there is a limited free demo for PC with which I guess you might be able to use your account you made for Wii.

The Docomo cloud version is the exception as in you don't need to purchase the game but it has a higher fee with a shorter duration.
 

Aeana

Member
Well, if that's the case, then this whole summer where I actually have time to play the game is a bust. It makes no sense to buy the PC version now when they're ~4000 yen for version 1 and then ~4000 yen again for version 2 when they're releasing the all in one package for the same price in August. Garbage.

Still curious about what I read last night about the versions though. That was here. Looking at it again though it seems like it might just be talking about the expansion and not the base game.
 

Aeana

Member
Is the expansion content available from the start provided you do the quests and whatnot to unlock it, or do you have to actually finish the storyline of version 1 to access it?
 

Sinople

Member
You have to finish the first storyline to be able to travel to the new continent. The pyramid is located there too.
Everything else (including the 2 new jobs, fishing and the casino) is available from the start I believe.
 

Aeana

Member
Just not really sure if it's worth it to play the game with only version 1 right now, and I can't justify spending 8000 yen to get up to date on PC now when it'll be half that price in two months. Meh.
 

Sinople

Member
Actually, you can find the base game and the expansion for 6500 yen on Amazon.jp, that's just 1800 yen more than the all-in-one pack (which costs around 4700 yen). Beware that for some reason it's cheaper to buy them separately.

Or you can download the demo and play for free for 2 weeks, if you don't mind the limitations. They won't gain level after 20 but you can import you characters.

Also, about the casino and the new jobs, they're available from the start but you need to register the expansion to unlock them.
 

Aeana

Member
Actually, you can find the base game and the expansion for 6500 yen on Amazon.jp, that's just 1800 yen more than the all-in-one pack (which costs around 4700 yen). Beware that for some reason it's cheaper to buy them separately.

Or you can download the demo and play for free for 2 weeks, if you don't mind the limitations. They won't gain level after 20 but you can import you characters.

Also, about the casino and the new jobs, they're available from the start but you need to register the expansion to unlock them.
Well, my character is already a level 30 priest, which is the job I wanted to continue with (sage aside).
I see Amazon JP has digital versions. They don't ship games internationally, but I wonder if I could bypass that with the digital copy from them.
 

Sinople

Member
I imagine that's the case but I can't say for sure.
If you can download and play the demo (which is the game client) from them, you can try buying the digital version just to get the registration code.
I bought a physical copy but didn't even use the disc as the installation wasn't required with the demo on my computer. It only updated it.
 

Aeana

Member
I just finished downloading the installer from SE's site so I guess I'm good to go. It let me log into my old character after registering the trial. It's so smooth compared to the Wii. @_@

Well, I'll think about it a little bit. I really do want to come back, but it'd be nice to play with some other people. Don't know who's still playing at this point.
 

extralite

Member
Still curious about what I read last night about the versions though. That was here. Looking at it again though it seems like it might just be talking about the expansion and not the base game.

That thread is about moving from PC to Wii U and the last poster Mimas correctly explains you need a new registration code which is basically what I'm saying too. You pay for the registration code.

Edit: Also I recommend playing on the Wii, maybe beat version 1 and all of the distributed quests, then buying the all in one package for your preferred platform when it comes out.
 

Aeana

Member
That thread is about moving from PC to Wii U and the last poster Mimas correctly explains you need a new registration code which is basically what I'm saying too. You pay for the registration code.

Edit: Also I recommend playing on the Wii, maybe beat version 1 and all of the distributed quests, then buying the all in one package for your preferred platform when it comes out.

Not sure where you're getting that. The post explicitly says "You would not need another registration code though."
But I already figured out that there's only one expansion registration option, by looking at my account info on the site. They have a registration option for each platform and then a single expansion registration box. Seems like it doesn't care which platform you register the expansion for. This is most likely what that poster is referring to.

As for playing on Wii... The reason why I stopped playing originally was because the framerate was so bad that it gave me motion sickness. I'll certainly never be playing on Wii again.
 

extralite

Member
Not sure where you're getting that. The post explicitly says "You would not need another registration code though."
But I already figured out that there's only one expansion registration option, by looking at my account info on the site. They have a registration option for each platform and then a single expansion registration box. Seems like it doesn't care which platform you register the expansion for. This is most likely what that poster is referring to.
That's interesting. I just checked that page and you are right. Good for people who can borrow install discs.

As for playing on Wii... The reason why I stopped playing originally was because the framerate was so bad that it gave me motion sickness. I'll certainly never be playing on Wii again.
I'm not entirely sure because I never could play the game with a fast connection but it is my impression that the frame rate depends a lot on your connection speed. The Wii U version didn't feel much higher frame to me at all. It is decent when not many people are around and can get quite slow when there are.

It was more or less the same on Wii and I expect PC to be no different. But they did adjust the netcode and made it more stable with version updates. You might also get better results with other VPNs.

Interlink was pretty fast for me, until they dropped l2tp and I couldn't use their service anymore. In comparison Overplay is rather slow and also has been completely down for me since yesterday.
 

Aeana

Member
Well I registered the trial and logged into my old character and ran around town and it was a perfect 60 FPS. I was using a server from the VPNGate thingy.
 

extralite

Member
I found the page again which gave me the impression you need to register version 2 per platform:

http://hiroba.dqx.jp/sc/public/playguide/guide_3_6

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It's weird that they explain it differently than it is actually handled.

I don't even get 60 fps with the offline benchmark. Anyway, if you can really get steady 60 fps in a busy area like Megistolis or Gartlant area where the Saurus Lords are, good for you. I really doubt it though.
 

Aeana

Member
I don't even get 60 fps with the offline benchmark. Anyway, if you can really get steady 60 fps in a busy area like Megistolis or Gartlant area where the Saurus Lords are, good for you. I really doubt it though.

So you're calling me a liar? Good lord.
For the record, I don't expect to get 60 FPS everywhere in an MMO. That's never been the case in big cities even with super rigs in any MMO I've ever played.
 
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