Where are those? And does anyone know if Dragon's Glaze is the best Longbow in the game?
I've yet to encounter a cocaktrice and I've spent the last week in BBI.
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Where are those? And does anyone know if Dragon's Glaze is the best Longbow in the game?
I've yet to encounter a cocaktrice and I've spent the last week in BBI.
It is not, Revenant Wail is.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'm presuming you opted for a complete restart due to missing quest lines given how easy it is to change vocation? Still thats a hardcore commitment going for a complete restart. I think I would have a meltdown if I gave up that kind of progress.
I had actually been fine with the quest lines, especially because some of the npcs respawn. It was more because I realized with the kind of style we play with we'd probably overlevel a lot of the difficulty from the normal game. Had I just started on hard mode from the start I would've just kept at it. But I did also went to go mystic knight, and I felt I had spent so much time as strider/ranger that I'd lost out on too much magic stats. The only way to really get them back (without employing weird grinding methods) was to level even more, which is what I didn't wanna do lol.
Rickenslacker
Banned
How often am I really going to be crafting things in this game? I've just been stashin' all materials carelessly.
And some upgraded magic spells are no good? Welp, pawn ruined.
And some upgraded magic spells are no good? Welp, pawn ruined.
Persona RS
Member
According do my log book, I've only killed 3 so far. I think they are in Rootwood Depository until you defeat Daimon. After that, they disappear or at least spawn somewhere else, because I've never found them after defeating Daimon.
Sometimes there is a Cocaktrice in one of the first areas.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I have yet to craft or combine a single thing. It's the only thing I haven't explored in the game because it just seems to be pure trial and error within the game.
Guess I have to farm those Daimon chests harder.
Oh, shit. Anyone know where they spawn after defeating Daimon?
When you open Daimon's chests it's a roll, right? The only way to reset it is to make a checkpoint somehow before you open the chests?
TheBryanJZX90
Member
Crafting is a lot of lot of effort with no real benefit. Maybe you can upgrade some curatives to a higher rank or occasionally you might end up with an item you need to upgrade a weapon or armor, but that's about it. I hope they just leave it out next time and focus on something cooler like a bit more variety in the scenery.
You don't have to craft anything, really. However, for example, there is a side quest that requires an item...it's either dropped randomly or purchased for 70K...yet you can craft it pretty easily. So, there's nothing you'll ever have to craft, but in doing so, you could possibly make things easier.
With all that said, I think I've crafted 2 things ever...
If you could buy some common gathering materials it might be worth it.
Augemitbutter
Member
only seen one cockatrice in BBI so far. they're pretty rare.
Persona RS
Member
Save before you open the chests. Then, if you don't like, use the Godsbane.
It should be something like this:
[] Cursed Armour Lv3
[] Moonbeam Gem.............[] Novelty/Gear Lv 3
[] Cursed Weapon Lv3
Got it. Yeah, I've fought him about six times now.
Put my sorceror save in the psn cloud and started a new game. Fighter -> vc5 strider for Eminence -> warrior is my plan, for now. Started on Hard, if BBI becomes unmanageable I can always just go assassin.
Sorceror was fun but I realized I'd be casting stuff around corners for the rest of the game.
Sorceror was fun but I realized I'd be casting stuff around corners for the rest of the game.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
(just make sure you have auto-upload off for the game's save)
Augemitbutter
Member
oh, my pawn got me 500k RC somehow. thanks tokyoguy.
R_thanatos
Member
Crafting is actually quite intresting in this game.
If you understand the game logic you can create some nice thing for cheap and sell them at high price.
Or create some very high potion for total health + stamina recovery.
Don't get me wrong spring water is cool , but total Hp recovery for the party is much better
SneakyStephan
Banned
I really wish people would hire my pawn now and then but no luck.
I never have any rc, my pawn is 73 and still has only been hired once way back when.
@ thanatos, weight makes most of those group potions a pain in the ass to manage for me.
Can't carry many which means constant restocking, i'd rather jsut have each char carry 50 potent greenwarish and some mushrooms and about 10 of the silence/stifle/frozen/blind/petrify single target ones.
The debuff ones take up very little weight, rarely get used but are useful in a pinch, and the greenwarish while semi heavy get used up slowly as I progress and pick up loot , I really hate carrying dead weight that I won't be using.
Wish this game was on pc so I could just ini edit some more weight limit, carrying less curatives is all good and well but with the ridiculous weight of all the materials you pick up I constantly have to waste my time managing the dumb inventory, I can decide for myself to take limited curatives without having to constantly deal with the tedium of the inventory managment for loot.
I have 85 hours played time or so and I'm sure that at least 15 of those are wasted on inventory managment.
I found a moonbeam gem at arisen's respite in a hidden attack, I noticed some doors where you first meet the upgrade npc in BBI that need it.
Can I reuse the gem? What's behind the doors?
but no luck.I never have any rc, my pawn is 73 and still has only been hired once way back when.
@ thanatos, weight makes most of those group potions a pain in the ass to manage for me.
Can't carry many which means constant restocking, i'd rather jsut have each char carry 50 potent greenwarish and some mushrooms and about 10 of the silence/stifle/frozen/blind/petrify single target ones.
The debuff ones take up very little weight, rarely get used but are useful in a pinch, and the greenwarish while semi heavy get used up slowly as I progress and pick up loot , I really hate carrying dead weight that I won't be using.
Wish this game was on pc so I could just ini edit some more weight limit, carrying less curatives is all good and well but with the ridiculous weight of all the materials you pick up I constantly have to waste my time managing the dumb inventory, I can decide for myself to take limited curatives without having to constantly deal with the tedium of the inventory managment for loot.
I have 85 hours played time or so and I'm sure that at least 15 of those are wasted on inventory managment.
I found a moonbeam gem at arisen's respite in a hidden attack, I noticed some doors where you first meet the upgrade npc in BBI that need it.
Can I reuse the gem? What's behind the doors?
endlessflood
Member
Speaking of healing/stamina items, what offers the best bang for buck when comparing total points restored vs weight? Are there some 'go to' items? I know people talk about spring water and large mushrooms a lot.
Grand saurian sages? Those are the large white ones that cast spells right? They're in the first area after the 2nd shortcut.
I'm also pretty sure that there's no way to manipulate the order in which you receive your lvl 3 uncursed gear. The only thing you can do to affect what you get is by changing your classes before you purify, but otherwise I'm 90% sure the game has a list of gear which you will receive in sequence no matter what.
Got the Sinew augment?
I really wish people would hire my pawn now and then
I never have any rc, my pawn is 73 and still has only been hired once way back when.
@ thanatos, weight makes most of those group potions a pain in the ass to manage for me.
Can't carry many which means constant restocking, i'd rather jsut have each char carry 50 potent greenwarish and some mushrooms and about 10 of the silence/stifle/frozen/blind/petrify single target ones.
The debuff ones take up very little weight, rarely get used but are useful in a pinch, and the greenwarish while semi heavy get used up slowly as I progress and pick up loot , I really hate carrying dead weight that I won't be using.
Wish this game was on pc so I could just ini edit some more weight limit, carrying less curatives is all good and well but with the ridiculous weight of all the materials you pick up I constantly have to waste my time managing the dumb inventory, I can decide for myself to take limited curatives without having to constantly deal with the tedium of the inventory managment for loot.
I have 85 hours played time or so and I'm sure that at least 15 of those are wasted on inventory managment.
I found a moonbeam gem at arisen's respite in a hidden attack, I noticed some doors where you first meet the upgrade npc in BBI that need it.
Can I reuse the gem? What's behind the doors?
I'm about that level. I'll hire your pawn next time I play (provided you are on ps3 and not 360).
What's your PSN ID (hopefully, not XBL).
SneakyStephan
Banned
Yeah ps3, alilsneaky
What's yours? There haven't been many people around my lvl on the google doc, and when I thought I found one they hadn't updated their lvl in the doc in a week.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhmZYod-EUivdFJwRHJwenJzTVVnMkU2WDVVTWQyS3c#gid=0
Here is the google doc (it's also in the OP) where you can add your gaf name, psn ID, pawn level and stuff.
Deified Data
Banned
When do you start unlocking shortcuts in BBI? Where do they link? I've only just started - beat the cyclops.
skillzilla81
I'm 67
I'm on there.
Pawn name Hrist. I just hadn't updated my level.TheBryanJZX90
Member
Speaking of, does anyone want me to edit the pawn list so you can sort by level? Someone mentioned being frustrated with just searching through the list on their own. It would look like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoAARGcjWgyVdDMtcVo0NHhIRjE1aVYxTUU5ZWNRMXc&usp=sharing
It's still only as good as the data that's in it, but it could help.
It's still only as good as the data that's in it, but it could help.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I'd greatly appreciate that (I'm the one who asked for it earlier
)And well the data can be edited by anyone, I changed other people's pawn level a few times to show the right level when they hadn't updated in a while. (when I tried to hire them only to find a pawn 15 levels higher)
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
So, if I want to BBI, I shouldn't finish Everfall then right? because that's the point of no return?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
So anyone have an extra heavens key they'd like to trade for something?
Also me (eyepatch) and my main pawn (the muscle)
Also me (eyepatch) and my main pawn (the muscle)
The Everfall is the end game. Once you finish that, you'll see the true ending and enter NG+.
So it's best to do do BBI and any other quest now.
Well, I THINK BBI may be available from the offset of NG+ (more specifically when using a save about half way through the game I had the prompt for BBI), but I wouldn't finish until at least you can farm Ur-dragon offline fast. At that point you could easily get money/wakestones as you need them for BBI.
Deified Data
Banned
Added another batch of you guys on PSN around the lv.60-70 range.
Jake Tower
Banned
Don't turn in the 20 Wakestones to Quince. That ends the game.
Stripper13
Member
So I said I'd keep updating - here it goes.
Started the game back up last night - I still have to deliver the hydras head. I check out my sidequests - nothing interesting, time to head to Gran Soren.
Easy enough - few harpies etc. I arrive, and I'm told to explore the city. I find the Potion lady & Weapons/Arms Dealer - and continue to explore the city while my pawns won't stop telling me to head to the fdjksgh inn.
I eventually head to the Inn after I realise nearly every door and path is locked or blocked for now. Hey awesome, I can change vocations. I change my Pawn to a Sorcerer - however I do not have an Archistaff or whatever it is. I change her back. I change my Strider to a Magic Archer - sounds like fun. I do not have a magic bow. I look at it for a while, and decide to stick with daggers for now and grab the bow later.
The bow is 10.5k at the arms dealer, I have half of that (I spent a fair bit of cash buying supplies and 1-2 starring pointless items... just to see what effect it would have. Lesson learnt). Hmm, I'll head out again. My story quest is to head to the Pawn Guild and talk to some guy. But I pass a Job Board.
Some escort missions, paying 5k. One goes to Shadowfort (sounds daunting, nope). The other is to Grand Wall or something. For some reason I assume this is probably the encampment near Cassadis. I spend a few minutes trying to find the escort before I realise the blue dot on the map - is him... I'm stupid.
I leave during late afternoon... stupid.
I am heading towards the waypoint marker for a while, fighting goblins and wolves before I realise this is not the direction to head for the encampment. I check the map - a red circle in the middle of some unexplored area... I've got this.
I keep heading up - it gets dark... Check my lamp, half full and I have no oil flasks (they're all filled with water for some reason, my bad I guess). I'll have to move fast I guess.
Undead start rising from the ground - I fight them off, they're pretty easy (I'm level 15 or so I think). More and more undead, more and more wolves... this is simple but wearing my party health down. I distribute some herbs to everyone. I spend too long doing this, and my lamp goes out... Uh oh.
Keep following the road and fighting undead in the pitch black darkness. Then my pawns, who I am usually tuning out because they won't stop muttering - get my attention. My fighter, named Thor, says "That's massive". I can't see anything. This is scary because Thor is massive... and my Home Theater system is far too good at creeping me out.
Keep moving forward - Quest Update - you've been ambushed. Bandits everywhere - haha, that's not so scary. They're tougher than what I'm used to - one in particular is seemingly invincible. My Pawn mage throws a fireball and lights up the face of a massive Ogre type thing walking towards me... Pee comes out.
I quickly mop up the bandits except the really tough one - and head straight for the Ogre thing. My daggers bounce off of him - I have no bow. Oh boy this is bad. I grab a hold of him and start climbing - he grabs me and throws me to the ground. I am nearly dead - I look for my party - the bandit who was left has finished them all. My escort is still alive, glitched out on some rock/cliff face. I decide to run, get some distance, consume herbs then head back. I begin to run, and just as I'm making some distance, a wolf jumps from above me and finishes me off.
Started the game back up last night - I still have to deliver the hydras head. I check out my sidequests - nothing interesting, time to head to Gran Soren.
Easy enough - few harpies etc. I arrive, and I'm told to explore the city. I find the Potion lady & Weapons/Arms Dealer - and continue to explore the city while my pawns won't stop telling me to head to the fdjksgh inn.
I eventually head to the Inn after I realise nearly every door and path is locked or blocked for now. Hey awesome, I can change vocations. I change my Pawn to a Sorcerer - however I do not have an Archistaff or whatever it is. I change her back. I change my Strider to a Magic Archer - sounds like fun. I do not have a magic bow. I look at it for a while, and decide to stick with daggers for now and grab the bow later.
The bow is 10.5k at the arms dealer, I have half of that (I spent a fair bit of cash buying supplies and 1-2 starring pointless items... just to see what effect it would have. Lesson learnt). Hmm, I'll head out again. My story quest is to head to the Pawn Guild and talk to some guy. But I pass a Job Board.
Some escort missions, paying 5k. One goes to Shadowfort (sounds daunting, nope). The other is to Grand Wall or something. For some reason I assume this is probably the encampment near Cassadis. I spend a few minutes trying to find the escort before I realise the blue dot on the map - is him... I'm stupid.
I leave during late afternoon... stupid.
I am heading towards the waypoint marker for a while, fighting goblins and wolves before I realise this is not the direction to head for the encampment. I check the map - a red circle in the middle of some unexplored area... I've got this.
I keep heading up - it gets dark... Check my lamp, half full and I have no oil flasks (they're all filled with water for some reason, my bad I guess). I'll have to move fast I guess.
Undead start rising from the ground - I fight them off, they're pretty easy (I'm level 15 or so I think). More and more undead, more and more wolves... this is simple but wearing my party health down. I distribute some herbs to everyone. I spend too long doing this, and my lamp goes out... Uh oh.
Keep following the road and fighting undead in the pitch black darkness. Then my pawns, who I am usually tuning out because they won't stop muttering - get my attention. My fighter, named Thor, says "That's massive". I can't see anything. This is scary because Thor is massive... and my Home Theater system is far too good at creeping me out.
Keep moving forward - Quest Update - you've been ambushed. Bandits everywhere - haha, that's not so scary. They're tougher than what I'm used to - one in particular is seemingly invincible. My Pawn mage throws a fireball and lights up the face of a massive Ogre type thing walking towards me... Pee comes out.
I quickly mop up the bandits except the really tough one - and head straight for the Ogre thing. My daggers bounce off of him - I have no bow. Oh boy this is bad. I grab a hold of him and start climbing - he grabs me and throws me to the ground. I am nearly dead - I look for my party - the bandit who was left has finished them all. My escort is still alive, glitched out on some rock/cliff face. I decide to run, get some distance, consume herbs then head back. I begin to run, and just as I'm making some distance, a wolf jumps from above me and finishes me off.
My pawn is 72. I've been in the googledoc list since day 1. If you don't have me added as a friend, please send a request. PSN: phierce_
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Kingwarish for health, Pyrepipes for stamina. Both are only found on Bitterblack.
I guess it's be Strongwarish (light than Harspud Sauce) and Large Mushrooms, for vanilla.
Shortcuts can be opened after defeating the boss of each stratum: the Gazer; and the Dark Bishop with his pet Cursed Dragon.
Deified Data
Banned
Can anyone explain to me how the randomized chests in BBI work? Can any of them contain a cursed item? Of any type or level? Or are some chests always junk? If so, is there any way to tell the difference?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
As far as I know there is no chest map for BBI like there is everfall but you can always just go through BBI and take note of every chest and which ones give you want and farm those?
I do however think that cursed items can spawn in any chest, at least novelty items.
The Last Wizard
Member
Daimon is so annoying, this "expansion" is not really evoking the same feeling I had for the vanilla version. The run to him was just ridiculous throwing enemies at you to pad the game out. Difficulty is there just to be there imo, even easy is hard.
Gonna call it a night and start up in the morn.
Gonna call it a night and start up in the morn.
njean777
Member
Ended up restarting the game with a warrior and am really enjoying it now. Much easier for me to tank and not have to rely on the pawns. I got up to the ShadowFort so far. I hate the fact though that the difficulty getting there is just annoying. Way to many enemies on the way there and to have a dragon show up is just crazy. I cannot even beat the thing so I ran. I thought the first time through it was just random, but it is suppose to be there I assume cuz it was there again the second time thorough.
Also any tips on killing a gryffin? I always do damage to it, but it ends up flying away... I am level 20 I believe so am I just to low right now for it?
Also any tips on killing a gryffin? I always do damage to it, but it ends up flying away... I am level 20 I believe so am I just to low right now for it?
endlessflood
Member
Nope. I only ever killed the one
that you get to fight on that quest, the one that goes to Bluemoon Tower but fights to the death there.
kaiju
Member
Yeah I would level up some before attempting the drake.
The first griffin you see will fly away unless you shoot/burn the wings and keep him down. Or just for fun: Switch to MA, light yourself on fire and jump on it's back...you'll have Kentucky Fried Griffin for the full party in a few short minutes.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
What order would you do the first three classes? I'm thinking....
Mage >>> Strider >>> Fighter >>> Mystic Knight
Mage >>> Strider >>> Fighter >>> Mystic Knight
Deified Data
Banned
God damn, Garm.
Nothing so fast and aggressive should have that much health.
Nothing so fast and aggressive should have that much health.
At about 33% and 66%. They link directly back to Olra.
Not all contain cursed items, some contain only crap, some contain very little variance in items, but most of them seem to operate similar to EF chests, but with less variance in items. All the chests in BBI get upgraded once you've beaten it once. The chests that seem to give better stuff tend to also contain better rift crystals, for example the ones that give perfect rift crystals (+10000) tend to also give lvl 3 cursed armor items.
The cursed armor and weapon chest drops are significantly rarer compared to gear or novelty chest drops. If you want to farm for lvl 1 or 2 armor and weapons, the best way is actually to fight garms, living armor, gorecyclopes, goreorges etc.
Do fighter first to get the sinew augement early.
Stripper13
Member
Quick question guys - is there any benefit to maxing out a vocation.
I changed to Magic Archer - and had 4 - 5 levels in Strider when I did it. Have I disadvantaged myself? Presumably I'll miss out on some of the skills etc. that are accessible in the Strider class - that I could just change back and grab later on?
Also - the move that Strider has with daggers.. it's an uppercut and then... a powder charge? How do I know if I've performed that correctly. I've tried the button follow up but I seem to just be uppercutting people and nothing else happens.
I changed to Magic Archer - and had 4 - 5 levels in Strider when I did it. Have I disadvantaged myself? Presumably I'll miss out on some of the skills etc. that are accessible in the Strider class - that I could just change back and grab later on?
Also - the move that Strider has with daggers.. it's an uppercut and then... a powder charge? How do I know if I've performed that correctly. I've tried the button follow up but I seem to just be uppercutting people and nothing else happens.