Okay, thanks. I have Dragon's Dogma. Bought it on sale and never opened it.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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Okay, thanks. I have Dragon's Dogma. Bought it on sale and never opened it.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Okay, thanks. I have Dragon's Dogma. Bought it on sale and never opened it.
It'll be a collector's item one day. Store it away.
Okay, thanks. I have Dragon's Dogma. Bought it on sale and never opened it.
To be fair, DD has everything DA does, minus Bitterblack Island (which is effectively post-game content) and the fast-travel upgrades (with eternal ferrystone being a bonus for players with a base game save file). (There are some cosmetic DLC character customization options, too, but let's ignore those.)
You might as well play through the base game before you decide to pick up DA.
I'd like to know this, too. I always keep going back to Warrior for my pawn because he's so stupid as a Fighter. I tried so many different combinations of inclinations and skill setups over the course of vanilla, but I was never 100% happy with anything.
It took me five tries to kill him the first time, and I haven't visited Lament since. I guess it gets easier, but two attempts? Even with autonomy I'm not sure I'd do it this fast. I'll give it a try though, the fight was really fun and epic (and now, I know what to do).
I agree. The eternal ferrystone is a bit useless at the start of the game anyway (besides teleporting back to Gran Soren I mean).
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'd like to know this, too. I always keep going back to Warrior for my pawn because he's so stupid as a Fighter. I tried so many different combinations of inclinations and skill setups over the course of vanilla, but I was never 100% happy with anything.
I make sure ever fighter I grab has shield drum.. the one I just released was so good at tanking. Name was Larry..a female fighter. I'll look her up later to get more details. She def had burst strike as well.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Shield drum is a must that I know, I now take burst strike because I noticed pawns don't sprint in combat, so his mobility is fucking low and he can't tank if hes just walking around chasing mobs but that leaves the last skill...
If you don't have a ranged physical dmg you need a skill to knock the smaller enemies out of the air but pawns seem bad at using it , but you also REALLY want a skill that can hit hard on enemy weak spots (for downed dragons), the maw skill does massive damage on skeletons, downed enemies , goblins, humanoids etc so I like to use that, but I need to give my pawn a lot of mushrooms as he uses it too much and runs out of stamina
I also like cymbal onslaught just so he has more chances to get the rooster shield debuff up, and the last shield skill I keep empty because it's just more noise that prevents him from using the skills he should be using.
If you don't have a ranged physical dmg you need a skill to knock the smaller enemies out of the air but pawns seem bad at using it , but you also REALLY want a skill that can hit hard on enemy weak spots (for downed dragons), the maw skill does massive damage on skeletons, downed enemies , goblins, humanoids etc so I like to use that, but I need to give my pawn a lot of mushrooms as he uses it too much and runs out of stamina
I also like cymbal onslaught just so he has more chances to get the rooster shield debuff up, and the last shield skill I keep empty because it's just more noise that prevents him from using the skills he should be using.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
So I think I'm going to finish Everfall and finish the game. Then replay a new game + on hard mode. Then I'll do BBI. But is BBI prohibitively fucking annoying as shit on hard mode? I should be starting my NG+ at level 64 ish.
Yeah, the problem that I had with my pawn as a Fighter is that he'd tend to waste his time doing a lot of things I didn't want him to. The shield drumming, running between enemies without doing anything at each destination, random grabs, etc. all seemed to happen way more frequently than I would've liked, usually on enemies that weren't quite suitable for the technique(s) he continued favoring. I always felt like the times I saw my pawn going toe-to-toe with something as a Fighter were rarer than they should've been. I know some people prefer to run their pawns without any shield skills whatsoever (or maybe only equipping that one defensive/invincibility? skill or leaving a single slot open as you mentioned, SneakyStephan) to counteract this, but I don't know. It's sort of like how the Ranger pawns I hire always seem to either be amazing or awful, with little in-between.
Regardless, I'm happy with my pawn as a Warrior because his AI is finally working reasonably well with everything I've given him, and I need as much physical damage I can get with the magically-inclined party I'm using now. For example, 100% stagger/knockdown/sleep/petrify/etc. resistances make Arc of Deliverance/Obliteration much more viable for AI-controlled pawn shenanigans, especially sitting on 3600+ raw physical attack power. BBI's hardest encounters tend to be kill or be killed (bosses, spellcasters), so I've found Warrior a bit more reliable.
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Thanks, I'll try that next time.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Pommel Bash one of their feet a lot (their right is usually less mobile) and they'll stumble, then immediately hit that foot with Indomitable Lash (use the skill ring if you have it) and there's a good chance it'll fall to it's hands and knees.
They don't stay down for too long like that and they can still swipe at you, so I just jump-slash or Lash his butthole, lol.
Where is this? I've never seen one... unless you're talking about the small Cyclops in the Watergod's Altar?
Devilsbane -- and yes, it is the lvl3 sword, it has 1850str when DFGold. No enchantment.
With it, my pawn has over 3000str.
I'd like to know this, too. I always keep going back to Warrior for my pawn because he's so stupid as a Fighter. I tried so many different combinations of inclinations and skill setups over the course of vanilla, but I was never 100% happy with anything.
My Fighter (Scather) pawn has:
Burst Strike*
Hindsight Sweep*
Dragon's Maw
And I think,
Cymbal Onslaught
Sheltered Assault*
Divine Defense
* = skill ring enhanced.
AlphaDragoon
Member
By the way, OH MY GOD the Helmbarte Daggers look terrible (I got a pair this morning). Worst dagger design in the entire game, by a lot. I couldn't even bear to use them and kept on with my DF Dragon's Vein.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I agree but to be fair, they're re-purposed Halberd heads.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Hah I went sorc and I brought another sorc pawn who has high bolide and high glicel
I have regular bolide and glicel.
I follow him around, cast bolide or glicel, he copies me with the super increased casttime and we are wreckin absolutely everything in seconds in BBI 2.0
Just fought two elder wyrms at the room before the final boss, they took about 15sec to both get knocked down and once they got knocked down they couldn't get back up again from the meteor spam.
edit; this is just broken, 2 annihilators dead in under 20seconds
I have regular bolide and glicel.
I follow him around, cast bolide or glicel, he copies me with the super increased casttime and we are wreckin absolutely everything in seconds in BBI 2.0
Just fought two elder wyrms at the room before the final boss, they took about 15sec to both get knocked down and once they got knocked down they couldn't get back up again from the meteor spam.
edit; this is just broken, 2 annihilators dead in under 20seconds
Nope, I ran through the first part of BBI and they're all in tact.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Ok if you haven't tried double sorc, DO IT
2 elder wyrms, a cursed dragon and 2 annihilators at once (managed to aggro half the fallen city area from the center rooftops and I funneled them into a chokepoint and they just got annihilated by bolide and glicel
it's like I unlocked godmode
the three living armors blocking the door to the daimon's room also get owned by bolide, the physical portion of the spell is ridiculous
2 elder wyrms, a cursed dragon and 2 annihilators at once (managed to aggro half the fallen city area from the center rooftops and I funneled them into a chokepoint and they just got annihilated by bolide and glicel
it's like I unlocked godmode
the three living armors blocking the door to the daimon's room also get owned by bolide, the physical portion of the spell is ridiculous
AlphaDragoon
Member
Yeah, but the Bardiche Daggers are also former polearms and are one of the best looking daggers in the game. :/
I don't get why four sets of daggers in this game have to be bootlegged from polearms anyway (Signs of Valor, Vogue Daggers, Bardiche Daggers and Helmbarte Daggers). You could just, I dunno, make some actual daggers/dirks/short swords instead.
Persona RS
Member
And you will have better casting time if you have the Wyrmking's Ring in your inventory.
Regarding the skills for Fighter pawns, if you want a very aggressive fighter, you should only have one skill in the shield skills - Shield Drum.
Double sorc takes too long to kill there compared to one Magick Archer, lol.
Sanctuary
Member
Was just using Blitz Strike (ring upgraded Burst), Heavenward Slash, Dragon's Maw and Shield Drum.
I ended up adding Cymbal Attack to see if it made any difference, and so far I haven't seen the debuff land a single time. I've even let him solo two Elder Ogres, three Gorecyclops as well as two giant Worgs. Not sure if it's actually worth using since it takes away from the other offensive abilities.
I also had his inclination set to Scather/Utilitarian, and it worked out pretty well prior to BBI, but I decided to change it to Mitigator/Utilitarian to see how that goes since most of the enemies in there have a lot of health to begin with, and my fighter does quite a bit of damage. I figure clearing out the "smaller" stuff first would make more sense in this area since most things are large to begin with.
Deified Data
Banned
I should clarify I did that as a lv.80 sorcerer with holy focused bolt, which expedites things significantly.
No. I started BBI on hard at around the same level you are now and haven't run into any roadblocks yet.
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
I don't have access to my copy of DA so I'll just ask, if the classes my pawn used are entirely leveled by my pawn, do I have to level them for myself or will the ranking just carry over to my Arisen? Thanks in advance just want to know if I'll have to put more hours into Ranger and Strider classes
Deified Data
Banned
You'll have to rank up separately.
High Maelstrom is the only god-tier spell I use nowadays...holy focused bolt sort of surpassed everything else long ago.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Daimon 2.0 down on first try, you guys hyped him up way too much or are you playing on hard? fight took about 15-20mins and I only have 2000 magic attack
Bolide works wonderfully on this boss too, and my pawn managed to climb up to his belly face and was whacking away at him
even the hired pawns made it to the end (though I had to pick them up a dozen times each)
It's just 'don't stand in the fire' and 'avoid the cleave with the long telegraph' and move when he looks and points at you or you get zapped by lightning
Bolide works wonderfully on this boss too, and my pawn managed to climb up to his belly face and was whacking away at him
even the hired pawns made it to the end (though I had to pick them up a dozen times each)
Hey! Nice catch! That was exactly what I was going for!
Indeed. A lot of the Japanese are mad talented with the photo taking.
Like this dude's shot, lots of effort was put into making this pawn, and the shot was positioned to give it a desktop wallpaper feel.
https://game.capcom.com/dragonsdogma/en/s292953.html
Or this one, where you get the sense of motion in the shot.
https://game.capcom.com/dragonsdogma/en/s274960.html
Sanctuary
Member
It took me four minutes my first attempt with just slightly over that magic attack level. Takes less than three now and I have yet to see a goddamned bow upgrade. Keep getting the same weapons again and again.
Go back and use 4x demon peripats per phase and see how long it takes you. I think I'm going to do one more run and then stop with this character for a bit. My pawn is actually rather ridiculous now in terms of debilitation resists and is stagger/knockdown proof without a ring finally. I think I'm going to rent your pawn just to see how 2x of them do, because most of the other pawns usually just fall over in less than a minute anyway.
edit: ugh, could have sworn you were on the 360.
If only you were on the 360. I have one just rotting away unidentified.
ThirtyPlus
Member
SneakyStephan
Banned
I've been taking so many screenshots since I leveled sorc, I never expected a magic class to grow on me.
There is a lot of tension to guess if you'll have a good chance of keeping that cast going to high or grand variation, and it feels rewarding to position properly.
It's also funny with high knockdown resist to take a tailsweep to the face and just keep on casting (especially with the knockdown resist during casting augment)
Grand glicel is amazing to behold, I like to to load up a grand bolide, send my fighter in a few sec before it finishes, then run in after him , park myself next to the sorc and cast a grand glicel and watch everything explode in an orgy of fire and ice 10 seconds later.
There is a lot of tension to guess if you'll have a good chance of keeping that cast going to high or grand variation, and it feels rewarding to position properly.
It's also funny with high knockdown resist to take a tailsweep to the face and just keep on casting (especially with the knockdown resist during casting augment)
Grand glicel is amazing to behold, I like to to load up a grand bolide, send my fighter in a few sec before it finishes, then run in after him , park myself next to the sorc and cast a grand glicel and watch everything explode in an orgy of fire and ice 10 seconds later.
Persona RS
Member
After farming Cursed Armour Lv 3 for a couple for hours, trying to get the Blasphemer's Cloak without success, it's time to call it a day.
Here's one photo of my pawn preparing to headshot Death (with ssuccess I might add).
Here's one photo of my pawn preparing to headshot Death (with ssuccess I might add).
rubbishmonkey
Member
This game is ruining my (already awful) sleeping pattern! Escorted some bloke to a squishy death by taking him to watergods alter instead of the shadow fort..... on a plus note when i had a quest to there later, i'd already cleared most of it out.
Augemitbutter
Member
i like.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Already put about 20 hours into Dark Arisen and I still haven't beaten
First thing I did was run through what I felt comfortable with on Bitterblack. Then started ferrystoning the shit out of the map and playing things I missed on my initial run through.
I love this game all over again.
the giant eye of the beholder thing or the warg.
I love this game all over again.
... Okay, the guy who made the Forgotten Hall was trying to channel Dark Souls something fierce.
Can I just skip this room?
Two giant cyclops enemies, one powerful sorcerer, and a good chance for three giant wolves to spawn. Each one wipes out my pawns like nothing, or my pawns decide to fuck off way across the room.
Can I just skip this room?
Augemitbutter
Member
yes, you can. you could even loot the chests.
InternHertz
Member
You're on PS3 so absolutely if you still got it ^^
I've just arrived at the second rest area. The room just before it was literally hell : 2 gorecyclops + Death + some other enemies speaking a lot. I just got all chests and ran ^^;
Is this one of those BBI items? You can't gift those, not unless they're still in cursed form and who knows what they'll end up being for the end user.
Whelp, decided to kill the two prisoner gorecyclopses. Wasn't as hard as I thought, but was slow and tedious. Got 3 lvl 2 weapons and 1 lvl 2 armor piece from them though. Now to purify it all.
Edit: Just got a cursed light for my pawn, fully upgraded it and slept in to get it uploaded ASAP.
Edit: Just got a cursed light for my pawn, fully upgraded it and slept in to get it uploaded ASAP.
Bitterblack Sanctum? Isn't that the boss chamber?
Onion_Relish
Member
Fuck yeah. Wifed the shit out of aelinore. No more caxton at my house telling me about masterworks. Aelinore and selene... dat 3 way. ...
Also how come deified is the only person using my pawn. Come on guys seriously.
Also how come deified is the only person using my pawn. Come on guys seriously.
Sanctuary
Member
So, I really used to think Sorcerers were good. Compared to the new and improved Magick Archer though, they are complete and utter garbage. Most of their Sorcerer specific spells are terrible due to the long windup in a place that you simply don't have 10s - 15s to just sit around doing nothing. Panacea >>>>> High Voidspell all day, every day.
Living armor wrecks them because they don't have a real defensive dodge, double drakes really hurt because you can't line of sight them in the hallway; they just hover all day never landing and are permanently out of range for anything other than Maelstrom (lol).
Why is holy bolt (I have pact) so hyped up? Because it's the only damn thing a Sorcerer can actually do that lands in a real fight--other than Fulmination against Ogres--and it still kills at about 1/3 the speed of a Mystic Knight, Magick Archer, Ranger and Assassin. Double wyrm is bad enough with the other vocations, but it's virtually impossible to cast anything more than once every few minutes because they keep targeting you with the spells that they cast at a much greater speed than what you can; constantly knocking you down or chaining until you die.
Living armor wrecks them because they don't have a real defensive dodge, double drakes really hurt because you can't line of sight them in the hallway; they just hover all day never landing and are permanently out of range for anything other than Maelstrom (lol).
Why is holy bolt (I have pact) so hyped up? Because it's the only damn thing a Sorcerer can actually do that lands in a real fight--other than Fulmination against Ogres--and it still kills at about 1/3 the speed of a Mystic Knight, Magick Archer, Ranger and Assassin. Double wyrm is bad enough with the other vocations, but it's virtually impossible to cast anything more than once every few minutes because they keep targeting you with the spells that they cast at a much greater speed than what you can; constantly knocking you down or chaining until you die.
Atleast someone uses your pawn :/.
Post a pic of your pawn? Trust me, attractive pawns get hired, usefulness is only secondary.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I purposely took time modeling my pawn because of this. I even equip certain armor pieces just to make her more attractive. I bought her that eyepatch from black cat!!
dragonelite
Member
Ooh god UR dragon that was a 3.5 hour marathon .
Never again will i kill the wings as last.
Even as a assassin i can only imaging the cursing a melee only player would do.
.Never again will i kill the wings as last.
Even as a assassin i can only imaging the cursing a melee only player would do.
Ooh god UR dragon that was a 3.5 hour marathon
Never again will i kill the wings as last.
Even as a assassin i can only imaging the cursing a melee only player would do.
Hahah ouch. Stock up on Periapts (conqueror's if you're an assassin). You need to make it so that he's in constant stun. It'll allow you to crawl freely around his back.