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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness

Hahah ouch. Stock up on Periapts (conqueror's if you're an assassin). You need to make it so that he's in constant stun. It'll allow you to crawl freely around his back.

The wings took like 2 hours to kill and the last 10 min i tried blast arrows but i was running out of money and didn't want to ruin new game plus had only like 120k. Had just started new game + so i thought lets give it a try at level 60.
Expected a hard battle against the senechel given how he is the end boss so i stocked up on potions. Talking about a anti climax 1 Fivefold flurry to his pawn and 2 to him and it was done. So had a big potion stock over which is empty now
I need like 3 more port crystals and to plop down first before starting doing the 100% quest run if i can find every quest..

Quick question. Are the HD Textures worth installing and do they have and impact on the games performance? (360)

They are the original resolution the first release had.
But from what i heard DD + BBI combined are over 7gig so they dropped the resolution for a lot of textures in DD to save space.
I can't say it has a performance impact have been playing with HD(if they call it like that) textures from the start.
 
My pawn Moka would like some company, guys.

Come on... she doesn't bite.

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She's a level 174 fighter now but I can't remember the last time I uploaded to the server. Probably around 150 or so.
 

Vargavinter

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Is it okay to just add everyone on the Google Docs-list so i get more pawns to choose from, because my friends dont play Dragons Dogma, or is it regarded as random-invite spam?
 

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Man, I really like the day/night system in this..but it can really suck when doing quests with time-sensitive npcs. Jasper for example, regardless of what you do you will have to wait till afternoon for him to come. And I just had to run around for 10 mins waiting for the courier to come for The Cypher. It's a cool Majora's Mask kinda thing, but also kind of confusing not know when an npc is gonna show.

Is it okay to just add everyone on the Google Docs-list so i get more pawns to choose from, because my friend dont play Dragons Dogma, or is it regarded as random-invite spam?

F dat I just added people down the list if I saw they were near my level. They wouldn't put their name there if they didn't want to be added.
 

Eusis

Member
Is it okay to just add everyone on the Google Docs-list so i get more pawns to choose from, because my friends dont play Dragons Dogma, or is it regarded as random-invite spam?

F dat I just added people down the list if I saw they were near my level. They wouldn't put their name there if they didn't want to be added.
Alternatively: just add everyone to your Favorites list, you won't bother anyone or worry about a clogged friends list, yet you can get their pawns. Friending does allow higher leveled ones to be summoned for free, but higher level pawns reduces the EXP learned so I'd save that for an uber-enemy you want taken down.
 

mr.rager

Member
Is anyone playing the Japanese PS3 version? I wanted to know if it has English language support like the original Dragons Dogma.
 

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Just realized there's a healing spring right northwest of GS..damnit Selene..why did we have to go so far north..
 

Vargavinter

Member
Alternatively: just add everyone to your Favorites list, you won't bother anyone or worry about a clogged friends list, yet you can get their pawns. Friending does allow higher leveled ones to be summoned for free, but higher level pawns reduces the EXP learned so I'd save that for an uber-enemy you want taken down.

Oh i didnt not know that, ive been playing with a way higher level healer.
 
I'm sad that I finished the game, I still have a good 10-15 hours to play messing around with sorcerer, trying out magic knight , trying sword assassin and maybe even give magic archer a second chance, bit after that :(
 

HuntTheMusic

Neo Member
Im really struggling with finding a decent longbow. I have a 3 star reinforced longbow but at lvl 35 its doing barely any damage. On the other hand my daggers are absolutley ruining anything they touch. Is it just the luck of the draw with this or is there a vendor somewhere that could have an upgrade?
 

demonkaze

Member
So any tips for BBI gear farming? I've just opened up the second shortcut and i've not had one piece of gear I would use on my Assassin and only a votary robe for my sorc pawn.

I love bbi but its getting a bit disheartening not seeing my gear progress a bit. Also what lvl is suggested for the boss here, i'm lv 75 i think and i had no problems at all on the second shortcut boss.
 

Raide

Member
Just got rocked by some bandits. I really need to learn the controls a bit more. :D Enjoying things so far but I need to get more gear!
 
So any tips for BBI gear farming? I've just opened up the second shortcut and i've not had one piece of gear I would use on my Assassin and only a votary robe for my sorc pawn.

I love bbi but its getting a bit disheartening not seeing my gear progress a bit. Also what lvl is suggested for the boss here, i'm lv 75 i think and i had no problems at all on the second shortcut boss.

I'll spoiler this chest
from the second shortcut backtrack one room to where you fought the lich and his dragon, climb up the wall near the broken pillar and you can get up to the top , follow the hidden passageway into a hidden room with two chests, I believe one always has a lvl.2 armor in it.

Once you unlocked the second shortcut you should start finding a lot better stuff in chests
I just backtracked a few rooms from the second shortcut and did the few rooms after it (you can skip the chained up gorecyclopses ya know:p) and looted all the chests.
in 2-3 runs you should get plenty of gear.

Don't hit the phantoms with physical dmg and your sorc will staff them down , if you hit them they'll keep vanishing and they'l ltake forever and a half to die, throwblasts apparently work well if they possess you.
 

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Just got rocked by some bandits. I really need to learn the controls a bit more. :D Enjoying things so far but I need to get more gear!

Assumin you're just startin out, getting a feel for the combat (especially melee) will def take a bit. Don't give up. Also, unlike a lot of games, the gear from vendors in this game is actually good. Buy it as you won't find much useful gear from around the world that early in the game.
 

Raide

Member
Assumin you're just startin out, getting a feel for the combat (especially melee) will def take a bit. Don't give up. Also, unlike a lot of games, the gear from vendors in this game is actually good. Buy it as you won't find much useful gear from around the world that early in the game.

Classically I play these games and go for a bow user first, since so many games seem to be biased towards ranged spellcasters. Only hit lvl 10 or so and some of the skills are interesting but the stamina issue early on took me a while to adjust to.

It is taking a while to figure out the controls but I am having fun so far. Just got the Hydra and escorted it to Gran Soran (I think that was it) so I am now trying to find somewhere to buy new gear.
 

Eusis

Member
Is there a good reason to max a vocation before switching to another one?
Some have augments that unlock with the final level you may consider invaluable, namely Leg's Strength for Striders. Otherwise it's not a big deal and you can just jump back when you feel like it.
 
While im training assassin right now do you guys advice to drop my pawns and take on authority augments for Ur dragon fights and the damage boosting skill at the different daytimes. The pawns became complete stupid in UR fight.
 

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Classically I play these games and go for a bow user first, since so many games seem to be biased towards ranged spellcasters. Only hit lvl 10 or so and some of the skills are interesting but the stamina issue early on took me a while to adjust to.

It is taking a while to figure out the controls but I am having fun so far. Just got the Hydra and escorted it to Gran Soran (I think that was it) so I am now trying to find somewhere to buy new gear.

Literally the stores in Cassardis sell starting gear, or the merchants you've come across. Head back to Cassardis before doing the hydra escort so you can do some quests and continue to explore. The controls aren't too tough, but I still trip up on inventory and main menu being separate.


Is there a good reason to max a vocation before switching to another one?

There's no reason to stick with a vocation till max unless you desperately want all the augments. Still, you can switch and just come back and finish it off anyway. The real reason you might want stick with a vocation is for the stat growth (or to avoid it even). Some people play on the voc they want to rank up in, but just before leveling they switch over to the voc they want the stats from, they level up, and then switch back to rank grinding voc.
 

Eusis

Member
There's no reason to stick with a vocation till max unless you desperately want all the augments. Still, you can switch and just come back and finish it off anyway. The real reason you might want stick with a vocation is for the stat growth (or to avoid it even). Some people play on the voc they want to rank up in, but just before leveling they switch over to the voc they want the stats from, they level up, and then switch back to rank grinding voc.
FYI this is actually kind of impractical in the late game as you start leveling up so rapidly it'd require constantly backing out just for the vocation switching, but the gains taper off so I guess it balances out, you seem to get a grand total of FOUR attack/defense points per level after 100.
 

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FYI this is actually kind of impractical in the late game as you start leveling up so rapidly it'd require constantly backing out just for the vocation switching, but the gains taper off so I guess it balances out, you seem to get a grand total of FOUR attack/defense points per level after 100.

Def didn't say it was practical, but even for someone like me who doesn't necessarily want to hardcore min/max, if I was running a mage but wanted sinew from fighter, playing normally until I actually got sinew might level me up what.. 8? 10? 12 times? That's a lot of lost magic stats for one augment. The other route of course is just to employ the DP grinding tricks.
 
Def didn't say it was practical, but even for someone like me who doesn't necessarily want to hardcore min/max, if I was running a mage but wanted sinew from fighter, playing normally until I actually got sinew might level me up what.. 8? 10? 12 times? That's a lot of lost magic stats for one augment. The other route of course is just to employ the DP grinding tricks.

Gl playing in bbi if you only leveled as sorc, making a 'pure' is a terrible idea, you'll have NO hp and no def and get oneshot by everything.

Uber tip for those who are doing BBI
One of the moonbeam gem (keys to open doors at the first large area in BBI) chests (you can find one of those gems in the first rest camp on a desk) contains a ring that will double your DCP gain! This makes ranking up other vocations sooooo much faster , I wish I'd found it 50 levels earlier.

I can't remember what door the chest was behind but i'm sure you can google it or find it on the wiki, the ring is called Ring of perseverance
 

Eusis

Member
Gl playing in bbi if you only leveled as sorc, making a 'pure' is a terrible idea, you'll have NO hp and no def and get oneshot by everything.
It is a big reason I wish you could restart from level 1 in NG+, the equipment you have will lurch you ahead really fast even if you get heavy stamina drain initially, and you can properly mix it up without undermining any of your stats.
 

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Gl playing in bbi if you only leveled as sorc, making a 'pure' is a terrible idea, you'll have NO hp and no def and get oneshot by everything.

Er, I didn't, that was just an example where someone might be building a char a certain way and not want to deviate. But there are plenty of people who level one class (usually assass or sorc) for the majority anyway.

And I'm playin hard mode lol, one shots are my bread and butter and I'm an MK. =P
 

Raven77

Member
Okay some of the notice board quests I've gotten in Grand Soren (I have advanced the story line no further after bringing the Hydra head to the city) are telling me to go pretty far west. I have not yet left this coastline with the starting city, the pawn fort, and Grand Soren.

If i'm level 20 do you think thats high enough to venture west? I tried going west up one of the paths with a boulder that rolls down at you around lvl 12 and got destroyed by some super fast assassin hanging around with his thugs up there.

Also, just added myself to the Pawn drive document! Kamikazee-Cowboy - My pawn is named Bruce, he's an enormous green fighter who I tried to make look like The Hulk.
 
Okay some of the notice board quests I've gotten in Grand Soren (I have advanced the story line no further after bringing the Hydra head to the city) are telling me to go pretty far west. I have not yet left this coastline with the starting city, the pawn fort, and Grand Soren.

If i'm level 20 do you think thats high enough to venture west? I tried going west up one of the paths with a boulder that rolls down at you around lvl 12 and got destroyed by some super fast assassin hanging around with his thugs up there.

Also, just added myself to the Pawn drive document! Kamikazee-Cowboy - My pawn is named Bruce, he's an enormous green fighter who I tried to make look like The Hulk.

Yes you can go there as soon as you get the quest ifyou want.
There are 2 groups of bandits that troll every single new player (high level ,can one shot, high def), ,just run past them if you feel they are too strong, there is no shame in fleeing as a pawn will tell you over and over during the game
 

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Okay some of the notice board quests I've gotten in Grand Soren (I have advanced the story line no further after bringing the Hydra head to the city) are telling me to go pretty far west. I have not yet left this coastline with the starting city, the pawn fort, and Grand Soren.

If i'm level 20 do you think thats high enough to venture west? I tried going west up one of the paths with a boulder that rolls down at you around lvl 12 and got destroyed by some super fast assassin hanging around with his thugs up there.

Also, just added myself to the Pawn drive document! Kamikazee-Cowboy - My pawn is named Bruce, he's an enormous green fighter who I tried to make look like The Hulk.

Every quest is doable up till then except, in my opinion, escorting Reynard to the great wall or whatever it is. That place is insanely far and has some serious fights. Level 20 on normal might be able to handle it, but still, when you get back you'll prolly be level 30 lol.

Also, why must the make enchants longer augment be rank 7..gahhh..
 
Quick question, I'm trying to work out what wolves hunt in. Anybody know?



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Also I'm getting a heck of a lot of money and can't see much to spend it on. Is this one of those games where you just end up with a heap or am I not picking up something? I'm doing quests around Grand Soren now.
 
Quick question, I'm trying to work out what wolves hunt in. Anybody know?



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Also I'm getting a heck of a lot of money and can't see much to spend it on. Is this one of those games where you just end up with a heap or am I not picking up something? I'm doing quests around Grand Soren now.

Don't worry. You will spend it all later on to buy new equipment or to gold dragonforge BBI gear.


EDIT: Oh! I think the wolves hunt in packs! Right, RIGHT?
 

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Quick question, I'm trying to work out what wolves hunt in. Anybody know?



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Also I'm getting a heck of a lot of money and can't see much to spend it on. Is this one of those games where you just end up with a heap or am I not picking up something? I'm doing quests around Grand Soren now.

If you try to buy anything decent from the stores, upgrade actually good gear, or make forgeries, your money will go quick. Even on hard mode I spent 300k in a few seconds.

Now start endeavoring to be ever calm in battle.
 
I can never find a pawn in the google doc:( If anyone has a 145-155 ish mage or strider or sorc pawn who isn't a guardian and who has ok stats (2000+str or magic) I'll gladly hire it.
All the way from lvl 1 I've rarely found people of the right class within +5-+15 levels of me
 
While im training assassin right now do you guys advice to drop my pawns and take on authority augments for Ur dragon fights and the damage boosting skill at the different daytimes. The pawns became complete stupid in UR fight.

Be a Magick Archer and you won't have to bother with going solo.

Hunter Bolt > Ur. It locks on to multiple hearts at once and can easily stun him because of that. Just equip the magic boosting augments if you have them (Attunement, Acuity) and/or pop 4 Demon's Periapts.

The fight shouldn't take that long, even at a relatively low level -- you'll probably take him out in one round, if you have enough stamina replenishing curatives (Large Mushrooms).
 

DC1

Member
I can never find a pawn in the google doc:( If anyone has a 145-155 ish mage or strider or sorc pawn who isn't a guardian and who has ok stats (2000+str or magic) I'll gladly hire it.
All the way from lvl 1 I've rarely found people of the right class within +5-+15 levels of me

I believe my mage is around 160 ( her armor is a little hocked as I'm in the process of forging a few items.) She has @2400+ magic.

I'm the on the Google doc: dc1 PSN:dmc123
Pawn name: Yoie.

She still very help...but should be much improved by tomorrow morning.
 

MechaX

Member
Beat the boss of BBI. That was... slightly disappointing.

And to add insult to injury, the best gear I got as a reward was shit only my pawn could equip, and not my assassin Arisen. No new weapons, or anything (hell, despite purifying a lot of gear, I don't think I received anything useful for my Arisen). That soured my mood so much that I was seriously contemplating taking the game back (and picking it up when I'm more in a mood to replay things).
 

Raven77

Member
Okay sorry to be asking so many questions but I really feel lost at this point as far as my character goes. I understand how augments work, and how you can switch vocations at will, but I am at a loss as to which augments to pick up to best help me later in the game.

I started as a Mage and brought him to lvl 12, then, for reasons unknown even to me I switch to Assassin and brought him up to when I hit lvl 22. I have now switched to Sorcerer to get the overall Magic Buff augment and was then going to go fighter (or warrior?) for the power / melee buff someone told me about.

I think I have purchased only one augment. Its the one that boosts your stats overall during the night time.


Eventually I want to be a Mystic Knight that has both good magic power but that I can also jump into the melee battle if I feel in the mood for it. I want to essentially be good at both magic and melee.

Any tips on which vocations to lvl up and which augments to get? I have tons of points that I haven't spent yet and lots of augments available for Mage and Assassin that I haven't picked up yet. Not sure what to do at this point honestly.
 

maomaoIYP

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Every quest is doable up till then except, in my opinion, escorting Reynard to the great wall or whatever it is. That place is insanely far and has some serious fights. Level 20 on normal might be able to handle it, but still, when you get back you'll prolly be level 30 lol.

Also, why must the make enchants longer augment be rank 7..gahhh..

Actually escorting Reynard to the greatwall is the epic baller quest that all vets should take the instant they hit gran soren. This is because soulflayer canyon has the best equipment available in the main game until the greatwall quest. I did it at lvl 15 on hard with only my main pawn.
 

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Okay sorry to be asking so many questions but I really feel lost at this point as far as my character goes. I understand how augments work, and how you can switch vocations at will, but I am at a loss as to which augments to pick up to best help me later in the game.

I started as a Mage and brought him to lvl 12, then, for reasons unknown even to me I switch to Assassin and brought him up to when I hit lvl 22. I have now switched to Sorcerer to get the overall Magic Buff augment and was then going to go fighter (or warrior?) for the power / melee buff someone told me about.

I think I have purchased only one augment. Its the one that boosts your stats overall during the night time.


Eventually I want to be a Mystic Knight that has both good magic power but that I can also jump into the melee battle if I feel in the mood for it. I want to essentially be good at both magic and melee.

Any tips on which vocations to lvl up and which augments to get? I have tons of points that I haven't spent yet and lots of augments available for Mage and Assassin that I haven't picked up yet. Not sure what to do at this point honestly.

If you want to go an MK, augments from all those classes can definitely help, but you'll realize you spend so much time leveling for augments that by the time you get to the class you want to play, you're done with the game. If you're enjoying what you're doing, then by all means continue, but if you want to play MK then play MK. The augments are really for customization and stat boosts, they don't define the class you play. Coincidentally, I too am running an MK and I've done fighter/sorc so far, for similar reasons as you, but I stopped before rank 9 for those two so I can finish them off later and actually play my MK now. When I feel like changing up playstyles again, I'll hit them up and finish them off.


Actually escorting Reynard to the greatwall is the epic baller quest that all vets should take the instant they hit gran soren. This is because soulflayer canyon has the best equipment available in the main game until the greatwall quest. I did it at lvl 15 on hard with only my main pawn.

By did it, you mean ran your ass there without engaging anything? Or you actually beat all the cyclops, saurians, whatever on the route? If it's the first, my arisen don't roll like that, he ain't a bitch. If it's the second, I'm going to hide in a corner.
 
Gl playing in bbi if you only leveled as sorc, making a 'pure' is a terrible idea, you'll have NO hp and no def and get oneshot by everything.
My pure sorcerer is steamrolling through BBI on hard difficulty. Moreso now with the perk that saves you from one-shots with 1 HP remaining. Just takes a lot of battlefield awareness and clever situating to survive. Pure sorcerer is a great way to take on BBI.
 

maomaoIYP

Member
By did it, you mean ran your ass there without engaging anything? Or you actually beat all the cyclops, saurians, whatever on the route? If it's the first, my arisen don't roll like that, he ain't a bitch. If it's the second, I'm going to hide in a corner.

I fought the cyclops, the goblins and the harpies. Had to run from the phantasms and the saurians. It's hard but very doable, and definitely worth it, especially on hard mode.
 

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My pure sorcerer is steamrolling through BBI on hard difficulty. Moreso now with the perk that saves you from one-shots with 1 HP remaining. Just takes a lot of battlefield awareness and clever situating to survive. Pure sorcerer is a great way to take on BBI.

I just think anyone not playin on hard is used to takin a few hits. They don't know about dat one shot by bats life.

I fought the cyclops, the goblins and the harpies. Had to run from the phantasms and the saurians. It's hard but very doable, and definitely worth it, especially on hard mode.

What makes it worth it? The gear from vendors? I'll get there eventually.
 
I just think anyone not playin on hard is used to takin a few hits. They don't know about dat one shot by bats life.

...I got one-shotted by a rat once. Probably my saddest moment.

But you raise a good point - on hard, most things are going to one or two shot you anyway, so just choose what you like. Sorcerers actually have that distinct advantage of being able to stay out of the fray in combat, so I'd say it's probably one of the easier classes to tackle BBI with on hard.
 

maomaoIYP

Member
I just think anyone not playin on hard is used to takin a few hits. They don't know about dat one shot by bats life.



What makes it worth it? The gear from vendors? I'll get there eventually.

The following items are available in soulflayer canyon....for free:
Master's Merle
Terminal Gyre
Animistic Robe
Pleached Limbs
Veteran's Arc
Plain Longbow
Chimeric Armor
Chimeric Half Plate
Chimeric Armet
Chimeric Gauntlets
Bastard Sword
Sage's robe
Steel Beak
Malignance
Triple Tooth
Plucked Heart
Almace
Kunai
Caladbolg
Crowned Hood
Scarlet Cape
Rex Lion Padding

A lot of these, especially the weapons, are better than almost everything that the dude in gran soren will sell even with the gold idol.
 

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The following items are available in soulflayer canyon....for free:
damn

A lot of these, especially the weapons, are better than almost everything that the dude in gran soren will sell even with the gold idol.

So when does the regular story take you there?
 
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