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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness

Dresden

Member
I think im going back to fighter, or assassin. Really starting to hate my MK, buffing before (and during) every fight is just so fucking boring, why not just make those spells near instant cast. I really don't see the point in those long casting times. The problem is, i'm still walking around with Eden's warden, i have not found a single sword/mace that has some decent magic damage, since 40 hours. And i fear my damage is way to weak in BBI without Abyssal Anguish/enchantment.

Just go kill the Ur Dragon for Ascalon, or try to purify a lvl2 cursed weapon for Cursed Light.
 

Ferrio

Banned
So do pawns from people's on your friends list show up? Cause I just have a couple lvl70+ pawns that costs 0RC. I assume people from my friends list? Someone going with a Valkyrie Profile theme too.
 

Sectus

Member
And frustratingly you can't leave useful feedback. Yeah you gotta keep harassment out, but maybe a few more constructive criticisms? Saying to change inclination, ESPECIALLY if you can specify to gain/drop certain ones would be great, guardian would probably practically vanish then.

I went through some text files in the game some days ago, and I found the text file which has the full list of feedback you can give to pawns. There's actually a whole bunch of negative comments like "Lacked in combat prowess." and "Did little to aid allies."

Considering it's still in the game files they must have taken it out really late. I guess they decided negative comments would be too mean, but I think it's a shame they didn't leave that in there.
 
I went through some text files in the game some days ago, and I found the text file which has the full list of feedback you can give to pawns. There's actually a whole bunch of negative comments like "Lacked in combat prowess." and "Did little to aid allies."

Considering it's still in the game files they must have taken it out really late. I guess they decided negative comments would be too mean, but I think it's a shame they didn't leave that in there.

Those ones that you mentioned are in the game...

I've used both. Usually in combination with gifting a rotten egg or something
 

Zukuu

Banned
I plan on playing without Pawns (except my own one) on hard with me going 2h melee and him being a healer + x (either mage or archer). Will I run into trouble?
 

Dresden

Member
I plan on playing without Pawns (except my own one) on hard with me going 2h melee and him being a healer + x (either mage or archer). Will I run into trouble?

No range and everything range will one shot you. You'll take brutal damage up close with no real escapes other than jumping or hoping you can stagger/knock them down. Asides from that, you'll be okay.
 

Foxix Von

Member
How often do boss monsters in BBI respawn?

I took down the... uhh Evil Eye. But I got so engrossed exploring the environment for chests that when I went to check the corpse for loot it disappeared.

Didn't get anything for that fight. :(
 

Zukuu

Banned
No range and everything range will one shot you. You'll take brutal damage up close with no real escapes other than jumping or hoping you can stagger/knock them down. Asides from that, you'll be okay.
I'd define that as "trouble" xD

Sad that there are no Spears... or dodge.
 

Sectus

Member
Those ones that you mentioned are in the game...

I've used both. Usually in combination with gifting a rotten egg or something

They are? Whoopsie. I should look at the ingame list again. The list of negative comments is pretty long in the text file, but it's possible my memory is so bad they are actually all in the game.
 

Rootbeer

Banned
Thinking about switching from assassin to fighter or back to strider to pick up some more skills, would i regret this? i'm in the mid 30s right now. Is it possible to max (or near max) 2 or even 3 vocations? I find sticking to assassin with its mostly night-oriented buffs kind of limiting. but i'll probably move back to it after i get some more abilities to augment myself

does my discipline reset or wipe if i reclass, or does all that discipline stick to that vocation and it remain there when i switch back to it? the stuff i've read is not clear on this point
 

maomaoIYP

Member
I plan on playing without Pawns (except my own one) on hard with me going 2h melee and him being a healer + x (either mage or archer). Will I run into trouble?
I'm doing that right now. Have you beaten the game before in vanilla? I know this game pretty well and I'm in boatloads of trouble. How much trouble you ask? Starting from lvl 1, I'm 8 hours in and I've died 351 times.

They are? Whoopsie. I should look at the ingame list again. The list of negative comments is pretty long in the text file, but it's possible my memory is so bad they are actually all in the game.
Are you gonna be tinkering with this game too Sectus? Could you make it so that you could give yourself 3 main pawns?
 

Zukuu

Banned
I'm doing that right now. Have you beaten the game before in vanilla? I know this game pretty well and I'm in boatloads of trouble. How much trouble you ask? Starting from lvl 1, I'm 8 hours in and I've died 351 times.
Holy smokeballs.
No I haven't played the game before. I play vanilla DD tho.


Mh, 1H + Shield more viable then, if I run into trouble?
 

maomaoIYP

Member
Holy smokeballs.
No I haven't played the game before. I play vanilla DD tho.


Mh, 1H + Shield more viable then, if I run into trouble?

It's still pretty damn hard. I'm lvl 25 and I get one shot by bandits shooting a single charged shot at my back. And you can't block much as well unless you're doing nothing but perfect blocks. Blocking wipes out my stamina very quickly.
 

Zukuu

Banned
It's still pretty damn hard. I'm lvl 25 and I get one shot by bandits shooting a single charged shot at my back. And you can't block much as well unless you're doing nothing but perfect blocks. Blocking wipes out my stamina very quickly.

Sounds like Dark Souls. I'm all in for that! :p -tho, DS has an actual dodge... so... I'll see :p
 
I went through some text files in the game some days ago, and I found the text file which has the full list of feedback you can give to pawns. There's actually a whole bunch of negative comments like "Lacked in combat prowess." and "Did little to aid allies."

Considering it's still in the game files they must have taken it out really late. I guess they decided negative comments would be too mean, but I think it's a shame they didn't leave that in there.

I've found that "acted nonsensically" is usually sufficient. They'll get the hint.
 

Vitanimus

Member
How often should I be selling equipment drops? I've got quite an array of equipment that I've never touched but I don't want to sell them in case I need them when changing vocations or something haha. I'm currently level 47 just before then final main quest.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
How often should I be selling equipment drops? I've got quite an array of equipment that I've never touched but I don't want to sell them in case I need them when changing vocations or something haha. I'm currently level 47 just before then final main quest.

Why bother selling when you have infinite storage space? Unless you're like insanely strapped for cash.
 

AlphaQuack

Neo Member
Argh, how am i supposed to manage these escort quests when the NPC just stands there taking hits when we encounter Ogres.. Should i just run past them and save me the time?
 

Pejo

Member
So i beat the main DD story back when i first got it, and then quit before really doing much in
Everfall
. just picked up Dark Arisen last week and have been re-familiarizing myself with the controls/combat running around the field and did 2 "sections" of
Everfall
. I feel like my attacks are doing damn near nothing though, and that i'm grossly underleveled or underequipped. I just hit 53 last night fighting a boss.

Where are you guys grinding levels or gear before you can get to this "UR Dragon" thing? To be clear the best stuff i got is the 200k-300k weapon from the blacksmith postgame and the 2 dragon weapons i got from the story fight.
 
Just found out I locked out the witchwood questline. Not happy about it.

I did this too. This is the first time I've played the game, so I didn't know I could do that. When I took the initial quest I tried heading in the spot marked on my map but the enemies on there way there kicked my ass hard. I figured I'd wait until I was stronger and then try again, but now it's gone. Am I missing anything important because of this?
 

Clockwork5

Member
Spent most of the day yesterday getting into this awesome game!! Lots of fun so far, a couple small gripes but they have been voiced by others, and hardly significant enough to detract from the experience and gameplay.

Climbing around on a giant monster while it flails around like a pissed off gorilla has its charm.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I did this too. This is the first time I've played the game, so I didn't know I could do that. When I took the initial quest I tried heading in the spot marked on my map but the enemies on there way there kicked my ass hard. I figured I'd wait until I was stronger and then try again, but now it's gone. Am I missing anything important because of this?

You can lock out certain quests and lose future interactions with the npc. The importance of it depends on your rpg ocd. Personally, I fuckin hate missing quests in a game, so before I even started the game (or any game) I checked a quest/missable list. I don't spoil myself on anything major, I just try to make sure I know what to expect with how the game handles stuff. This game has A TON OF MISSABLES and you will ienvitably encounter some without a guide. It's just how the game is designed. The game does keep track of completed quests throughout your subsequent playthroughs, so it's easy to clean stuff up/try new stuff out later, but that's just not my style of play.
 
I beat Daimon v2 last night on hard with an MK with no cannons and no periapts.
First form was getting torn up by perfect lvl 3 holy riposte blocks. I was blocking everything that wasn't a grab or that miasa spell.
Second form was a little harder but the idea remains the same, stay at his feet, perfect holy riposte. I break up the blocks with abyssal anguish enhanced melee.

I didn't have problems going through BBI with an MK (with no cannon once again, I hate it because it's boring). I had lots of fun, perfect holy riposte and perfect dark riposte does most of the work. Perfect dark riposte inflicts torpor on so many things it's quite funny, not even undead or garms are immune. Once torpor sets in, it's basically a win button....

I'll try meleeing him then that would be a new way to beat him. (what do you do when he vortexes then while in melee range , does the aoe spell stagger him, the name eludes me)
I find holy cannon incredibly boring as well (and BBI just makes using it laborious and akward)

I've beat him as every other class, MK with holy cannon (which I saw recommended before) was just the shittiest way by far. Double Sorc probably the most challenging because you need to work to get your spells off. Ranger the (laughably) easiest.

BBI minobosses+ trash as tank MK still fails though, simply because you don't have a taunt, I could see it work if you solo but running after mobs and hoping they'll try to hit you and not leap/fly/pounce/charge at your sorc instead is not my idea of fun.
Mk has tools to control the small enemies but who gives a damn about those anyhow they die in one hit, it's when theres 3 wargs or 2 dragons or 2 annihilators and some hellhounds that I end up having to pick up my pawns every other second because MK cannot tank. Perfect blocks are (too) easy you get so many frames to do it, but getting the mobs to want to hit you (while fighting with the camera indoors) defeats the point for me.

Fighter should have been the class with reflect tbh.
 

Sectus

Member
Are you gonna be tinkering with this game too Sectus? Could you make it so that you could give yourself 3 main pawns?
I've experimented a little bit with the game. I dunno how much time I'll devote to it. It might be interesting to mess around with the enemy spawns, but it would be much easier to motivate myself if this was on PC.

I have done a few things though. Mostly about editing text and NPCs. I managed to give Caxton a new hairdo for instance: http://abload.de/img/2012-07-02_01-28-31bnieg.jpg

Via savegame editing, you can actually edit everything to do with your 2 support pawns. You could duplicate your main pawn and have them replace your support pawns. But support pawns will still act like support pawns and they won't ever gain XP.
 
I only need the Gauntlets of Oblivion to complete my set.
That said, I got some pieces with not ideal enchantments on them so I'll refrain from silver/gold dragonforge them until I get the ones I really want.

The quest to get all 13 armaments befouled by devilry is going to take some time >_< Only got 2 of them so far.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I just got the game and jumped back in, I left off after the end of the main story at level 53, with the
big hole in the city
.

I have a few basic questions:


1. How do I find the new content? Should I start there or just work on the post-game quests?
2. I can use the ferrystone unlimited times now, but how do I make new spots to go to? Was there another thing to buy that you put down?

Why is the map so useless? Every time I ask the quests to show on maps, it shows a map with no useful markings.
 

Iskander

Neo Member
Did they ever fix the save glitch from last month? Want to get this (about 40 hours into the original) but I don't want to lose my data...
 
Is there anywhere I can get Idol of the All-Mother in the second run through BBI?

I remember getting a few in the first run through, but I used them...

Now I need more and I have zero. :(

It's a very rare drop from the Dark Pawns, mainly the Sorcerer ones.

Btw. what armor am I looking for as an Assassin in bbi? Found a trophy jacket, but that seems to be an ideal one for magick archer with +24 magick.

As said the Shadow/Oblivion sets are the best but you likely won't be getting that stuff until way late into BBI.

The next best stuff is the lvl2 armors: the Patterned Gambeson; Silk Tights; Mercenary Slogs; Dragonwing Gloves/Boots; and maybe the Foreign/Extrinsic Waistguards and the Celestial Armor, though I can't remember if an Assassin can wear those.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I never got the map/quest complaints. If I set a quest as the main quest, it always clearly marks where the area to go is on the map. Hell, for one quest it literally followed in real time npcs in GS as they were moving. There are some quests where there can't be a marker like the general hunting notice board quests, but all in all the map system works like any mmo quest system.
 
I just got the game and jumped back in, I left off after the end of the main story at level 53, with the
big hole in the city
.

I have a few basic questions:


1. How do I find the new content? Should I start there or just work on the post-game quests?
2. I can use the ferrystone unlimited times now, but how do I make new spots to go to? Was there another thing to buy that you put down?

Why is the map so useless? Every time I ask the quests to show on maps, it shows a map with no useful markings.
1. After you create your pawn, a purple marker will show up on your map, go to this place at night and it will lead you to Bitterblack Isle. I wouldn't go until you are high-level, 50-75 or above.

2. There are Port Crystals scattered around the world (big things that glow purple), you can place up to 10 of these in locations of your choosing.

3. The map will show you exactly where to go but you must first go into the "Quest" menu and highlight the quest you want and press X to "set as active quest" (highlighted in yellow). Nothing ever explains how to do that so yeah, kinda shitty.
 

Dyno

Member
Noob question : So I got 10 'seals' in my class. (The red things that appear on your character sheet.) What does that entitle me to? How does that particular system work or is it just for show?
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
Noob question : So I got 10 'seals' in my class. (The red things that appear on your character sheet.) What does that entitle me to? How does that particular system work or is it just for show?

Those show your vocation rank, that's how you unlock new abilities within your class. It's not just for show.

Your level only affects your stat growth, it's the vocation ranks that unlock new abilities to buy.
 
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