Death will one hit you with its scythe regardless of your health. I'm sure if people know the proper tactic, they'll be able to handle it even at lower levels.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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Death will one hit you with its scythe regardless of your health. I'm sure if people know the proper tactic, they'll be able to handle it even at lower levels.
Deified Data
Banned
Of course, as it should be. But my point is that the area looks to have some challenging encounters for levels well over 50, regardless. Based on what I am hearing and seeing anyway.
That's the pettiest reasoning ever. Those augments are overpowered in vanilla, and are rightly modified for the greater good of the game.
gioGAF
Member
Really? You really agree with going from 70% to 20%?
I can understand the decision to lower their effectiveness, but this supposed change just relegates them into uselessness. Why would you give up your pawns for a paltry 20% gain? The Bloodlust nerf I don't really care about, but Autonomy supported my favorite play style.
Deified Data
Banned
I think 30% sounds like an okay number.
I don't care for the concept of an augment that makes you stronger without pawns than you would be with them. I understand the appeal, but I feel it goes against the spirit of the game. That's just my personal opinion. Assassin has always been a massively over-powered class in my view. Not that balance is really a concern in this game.
gioGAF
Member
I agree with what you are saying, I'm also one of those people that found solo play appealing so the severity of the change is what most concerns me. The Autonomy reduction just comes across as plain lazy on Capcom's part.
@Kyoufu
What do you mean won't die so easily? Everything dies easily when you reach a higher level. Balance does not seem to be at the top of Capcom's list of priorities.
I mean Blackbitter Isle might actually be challenging now, even for Autonomy Assassins.
If balance wasn't a priority then there wouldn't be so many nerfs already along with Magick Archers getting the buffs they've needed. Well done Capcom.
Yeah, I always kind of hated Bloodlust and Autonomy. For a game that focuses so heavily on the pawn system and the dangers of venturing out at night having a pair of augments that turned wandering around all alone in the darkness into easy mode was a bit silly.
I admittedly used them anyhow because they were completely broken, but I don't mind seeing them nerfed in the slightest.
I admittedly used them anyhow because they were completely broken, but I don't mind seeing them nerfed in the slightest.
Jake Tower
Banned
Everything about DA, including balance changes, sounds great to me so far.
Deified Data
Banned
I totally get the appeal of a solo playthrough and would like to do it myself someday, but I feel those augments should be geared more towards giving you a fighting chance out in the wilderness, not arbitrarily making you godlike. Ideally a solo playthrough should be more challenging than a playthrough with 3 pawns.
SixMachine
Member
Honestly even with bloodlust and autonomy nerf, Assassin still cannot die due to liquid vims and eating mass amounts of mushrooms or food of choice. I know it hurts most solo builds in other classes but an increase in solo difficulty isn't too bad of an idea since the games balance is skewed at higher levels. Invisibility made it so the toughest fights were a joke.
Did anyone test to see if it still instant god mode? I think they could have implemented it much better. I know Fighter has a skill that grants super armor, so why not have invisibility be something that nulls damage but you still feel knockback and status effects. That way you can get knocked out due to stamina loss on knockdown and make it you can't always be on top of an enemy doing dps 24/7.
Did anyone test to see if it still instant god mode? I think they could have implemented it much better. I know Fighter has a skill that grants super armor, so why not have invisibility be something that nulls damage but you still feel knockback and status effects. That way you can get knocked out due to stamina loss on knockdown and make it you can't always be on top of an enemy doing dps 24/7.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Preorder on PSN complete. God bless you digital age.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'm jealous of your Tuesday release dates.
Apparently the dl will be available after midnight, not with the weekly update. Either way I can't play it till Weds but it'll be nice to have it set up early tomorrow.
Psychoward
Banned
So this is the game that allows you to only have one character right?
Correct, but you can always make new ones on different accounts so it's not like the original Wii or a Vita/3DS game here.
Hmmm, I probably should've started a game on my other account, the one I used for cheating Dark Souls.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
With creating characters on alt accounts, do the online functions in DD require XBL gold? Or does the pawn system not count as "multiplayer"?
Jake Tower
Banned
Yes, that's shitty.
You can however copy your save file to a usb stick, then delete the save file to create a new character on the same profile.
XBL Gold is not required for online functions.
The whole one save slot per account thing is something I really wish they'd changed for Dark Arisen. I'm sure they've got their reasons, but damn are the workarounds a pain in the ass.
In the end I just embraced the fundamental transience of the digital age and deleted my old character sans backup every time I felt like starting over.
In the end I just embraced the fundamental transience of the digital age and deleted my old character sans backup every time I felt like starting over.
mullet2000
Member
Question: Why preorder digital goods? I don't really understand what the benefit is to you. You don't get to pre-download it on psn, right?
It's a mix. Lots of open fields during the day/night cycle and dungeons that can be a little dark but nothing the Lantern can't handle.
endlessflood
Member
It's open world with a day/night cycle. It literally takes place wherever and whenever you want it to take place
There are dungeons but in the vanilla game they're not very common. The Dark Arisen bonus stuff (Bitterblack Isle) is mostly a dungeon crawl though.
nikos
Member
It's open world with a day/night cycle. It literally takes place wherever and whenever you want it to take place
There are dungeons but in the vanilla game they're not very common. The Dark Arisen bonus stuff (Bitterblack Isle) is mostly a dungeon crawl though.
Thanks guys, I think my body is ready. Screw the backlog.
famousmortimer
Banned
Sorry if this has been asked before but I can't find it in here or on the PSN. I know at some point when I pre-ordered it they said it would be available at 12:01am but what I don't remember is if that was pacific or if it's whatever timezone I live (eastern...).
Anyone know?
Anyone know?
Raptomex
Member
Me too. And night in this game is more dangerous so I always tried to sleep to avoid night especially early on when you're less powerful. But it's a mix of both. And I'm happy to report there aren't many caves/dungeons. I prefer exploring worlds and going on "journeys" throug the land in most RPG adventure games. I'm not a big dungeon guy.
Its a mix just like others have said, but this REALLY drives home the old JRPG standard of "dont go out at night". Some games have enemies that are just a little more powerful, but this one makes you really weary of the dark.
Especially during escort quests...and then all of a sudden you hear the low growl and see the gleaming eyes of a Chimera through the darkness.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
It was purely for convenience in this case. I had a free 10 mins now so that in the morning I had 2 less clicks to do to get it. That's it. I apparently got some theme and ring dlc with it but I didn't even know those existed till I hit confirm. No big reason for it though other than any digital extras.
nikos
Member
The ability to sleep is always good. It should definitely help in the beginning. I'm definitely with you with liking to explore worlds and going on journeys.
You just sold me on the night time aspect, at least after I level up a bit. Sounds exciting!
Well, I didn't know either.
Excited for this to arrive Wednesday. So glad to ditch the screen tearing...holy smokes it was bad on 360.
nikos
Member
Is the screen tearing officially gone, or are you going with the PS3 version?
If the 360 definitely doesn't have screen tearing, and runs better, I might have to go with it.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Is it like the first one than? Screen tearing was bad on 360 but it had better framerates than the ps3 version.
Is this one practically the same?
Is this one practically the same?
It is, especially once you have the monster near death and it gets really aggressive. The music takes an awesome shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTNfuztCMgM
nikos
Member
This is going to be epic.
Big Chungus
Member
Going to trade in a copy of Halo 4 for this game.
Can't wait to play it.
Can't wait to play it.
Jake Tower
Banned
Be sure to steal her panties.
Lee Chaolan
Member
It was a great subplot leading to an awesome Dungeon. Don't miss it again.
I never understood the appeal of using autonomy. The pawns are basically the whole central hinge of the storyline and what the game is about gameplay-wise as well. Removing them kind of destroys what they're trying to accomplish from several angles.
I'm not "happy" that it's been nerfed, but I agree that it needed to be.
I'm not "happy" that it's been nerfed, but I agree that it needed to be.
Lee Chaolan
Member
I never used it once, I had way too much fun using pawns. *shrug*