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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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Pretty sure all gifts help affinity. Some, like favorites, help more than others.
I did a speed run, stopped only to do two things: gift Mercedes an Arisen Bond, and to gift Aelinore a vial of Liquid Effluvium, and got Mercedes in my ending. Gifting Aelinore in the post game Liquid Effluvium before getting the true ending without bothering with anyone else got me Selene in the ending though.
I just recently had a run where I maxed affinities for Quina, Aelinoire, Mercedes, Selene and Madeline.
I ended up with Pablos, the fat innkeeper from Cassardis. =(
Might be worth backing up the save just before beating next time just so that if that happens you can restore and throw him into the ocean.
EDIT: Then again I guess if this is BEFORE the postgame you could just throw him in during that and get someone else in the ending.
I remember reading some time ago that the person you'd end up with is the person with max affinity, whom you last talked to before fighting the dragon. I don't know if there's any truth to it though.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
He is especially weak but you still need to work him down. Just makes it possible to get him dead ready after 280 generations ....
Wouldn't that be solved by just giving them a nice little hit with your 2 meter great sword?
Technically yes lol, I just wasn't expecting it to be the damn innkeeper.
It's pretty funny and a little disturbing when he stares longingly at you with puppy dog eyes in the cutscenes, and immediately after the love scene he asks you if you'd like to sleep in your own room (presumably with him) for 50 G.
RyanardoDaVinci
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I think this is true.
I have max affinity with Quina, Mercedes, Selene, and Aelinore; if I do Dutchess in Distress before fighting Grigori, I always end up with Aelinore, even if I give the Arisen's Bond to one of the other three.
If I don't do DiD, I always end up with Mercedes because of her final quest, even if I give the Bond to Quina.
The only way I've ever ended up with Quina is to do all of her quests, give her the Bond, never talk to Aelinore, and do something to make Mercedes not like me any more. Selene doesn't really matter, she's always at my place after the final battle unless I don't do the Witch Hunt quest.
Kinda sad the size of the world.. I was expecting something a lot bigger. Guess you just run around the same areas with different quests?
So what are the two quests that'll be the point of no return for your affinity choice? I sooooo thought making the jester mine..... but ugh no.
So what are the two quests that'll be the point of no return for your affinity choice? I sooooo thought making the jester mine..... but ugh no.
It was a letdown that the map was kind of deceptive about the world design, it's almost more like a hand really with you starting on the thumb and moving to the "palm" (Gran Soren).
Son of Cervantes
Member
I just ordered this for 360. I only played the demo of the original, but was enticed by folks in this thread mentioning it was kind of an updated D&D game like the old arcade ones Capcom used to make.
Is the story interesting? Are there interesting characters? Or is it very generic fantasy stuff?
Is the story interesting? Are there interesting characters? Or is it very generic fantasy stuff?
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Oh, yeah -- forgot about Madeline. If you do all of Quina's quests, you can't speak to her before the final battle, as she leaves the abbey.
Whomever the game picks will be found inside your home in Cassardis after the final battle.
For me, the story was pretty dull when not having anything to do with The Dragon, and then the very end happened and I was like "KFLSDJOFSDFOHNDF!! AMAZING!"
But that's me.
Ya I thought all that space was explorable at first. They nailed the combat though, if they get bigger world and more of everything... it'd be an amazing game.
It's bad, all the characters have no character. I just got done with a scene where you visit the queen... and it was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
Quina leaves or Mad?
Also, it seems the affection can go beyond giving a Arisen Bond.
edit: quina. x) Mad leaves with Bad Business it seems. Meh. Need to have an arisen bond before that then.
The core plot is actually kind of interesting, but for the most part it's kind of a generic fantasy story with mediocre execution. Still liked doing the non-noticeboard sidequests, but I'm a sucker for that kind of sidequest design and am disappointed whenever a game eschews that in favor of just collecting wolf hides. Not that there isn't a lot of that, but it's not all you do thankfully.
Yeah, it's kind of like the game blew its load early on, not that that's really a surprised with some games. Also why I hoped BBI would've been a more explorable area, I guess I hoped for Shivering Isles but instead we got a poor man's Dark Souls... if not a straight beat-em up/loot game.
StunandStab
Member
I think you were expecting too much with BBI if you actually wanted a new land mass aside from Gransys to explore.
I figured it would just be a new dungeon, and it pretty much was just that. I think Capcom did a really good job with BBI. There were a lot of new enemies, four new boss fights, a fairly lengthy dungeon to explore, and a bunch of new tracks on the OST to go along with it.
The only disappointing part about BBI for me is how they repeat the same rooms again and again; however, it's not nearly as bad as Everfall is in that regard.
The unique areas of BBI like the Pilgrim's Path, the Fallen City, and Duskmoon Tower are all really great. If you could expect something new like that every time you went through a door BBI would have been AMAZING.
I still think BBI was pretty damn good, though. It impressed me.
The most obvious love interests being: Quina, Madeline, Aelinoire, Reynard, Valmiro all leave if you complete their quests. The only ones that stay are Selene and Julian. Not all characters are available as love interests though, I tried making it the Dragonforged once but that doesn't work.
Augemitbutter
Member
Julien
i thought he left when you escort him to the greatwall, but i never bothered to check the prison again.
On the other hand this isn't just DLC like it would've been for most games, but a full blown new release with that content. I don't think it's too unfair to expect more, though I would've been OK with a dungeon that didn't just recycle the same handful of rooms rearranging them over and over.
Well, I still enjoyed it, it just seems that for rebuying the game for it should've gone further.
It would've been interesting if they seriously did alternates for the Dragonforged and Duke, given
the Dragonforged dies with the Dragon anyway (though this makes him a kinda crummy choice for a sacrifice as the bargain would've needed to be different... if the dragon is even capable of making a new one up) and the Duke, well, that'd change the post game entirely.
Still there, the game's just kind of INSANE in that way, given he gets his full get up with that mask, then goes back to plain clothes in the jail cell.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
I want Deep Down to be more like bbi than the main game, but that's probably just me.
Well I want the dungeons to be like bbi compared to the main game dungeons.
Well I want the dungeons to be like bbi compared to the main game dungeons.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
Pawns can only change vocation to this:
Fighter
Strider
Mage
Warrior
Ranger
Sorc
Hybrid Classes are for the Arisen only.
Fighter
Strider
Mage
Warrior
Ranger
Sorc
Hybrid Classes are for the Arisen only.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Still using your's lol. I just haven't released her yet.
Wait... you haven't? Wow that means someone actually did hire her.
You still rocking the ranger version?
I'm an expert
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I keep my pawns around until I outlevel them by like 15, which with my play schedule means I keep them for like a week or two lol. Yes, still ranger. Have you released Aralyn? Last time I checked I hadn't gotten any crystals.
Also you guys are crazy about the world not being huge, though I'll admit they could have scattered quests around in a few more places out in the world.
I actually didn't hire her, was kinda worried about trivializing the game since she was 10 levels higher or something. I'm a lot closer now, and the fights are trivial now anyways... so hired!
I'm an expert
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Ah my fault, I didn't realize you hadn't, I just though you said you did. Yeah no worries I do the same, I purposely hire lower level pawns to even out the difficulty. I'm like 40something now while Bellaire is still 30s I believe. She'll stick with me for a bit longer. In the end I'll see how much end game I do and if I even really need rift crystals. If I get addicted and try to gear my pawn out, I just might. If I just call it quits after the platinum, that's fine too.
Augemitbutter
Member
i should've expected that.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Hillfigure Knoll or Extermination Site.
Thanks. I don't seem to ever have luck at Hillfigure Knoll. I will try the Extermination Site.
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Killing goblins and ox will help make it come. It wants to eat, not fight. You can bring corpses to that area too.
StunandStab
Member
I can kind of agree with this. As long as they don't recycle rooms like with BBI.
I liked the dungeons in the main game, too, but they're too small/too short.
I liked how BBI was slightly non-linear in that you had to find keys in order to proceed. I think they should expand on that aspect of it for future dungeons.
I just want them to combine what the dungeons of the main game did right with what BBI did right for the dungeons in the next game. Lengthy, large dungeons that are geographically logical, don't recycle rooms, have a great atmosphere, slight non-linearity forcing exploration (perhaps a light puzzle solving aspect?), great atmosphere, and a large boss at the end with perhaps one or two mid-bosses at certain milestones within the dungeon.
Have a few of those along with some of the smaller dungeons that the main game is full of (for when it makes sense), and I would be extremely happy with the next game.
After about forty hours in I have to say this game is pretty barren, lifeless, flabby, and paceless. There are some good parts but you are wasting a lot of time not doing very much.
How do I push the main quest. I've killed the Griffon, I met in the Princess Tower, I've got a Level 36 character but now I mostly want to make progress. I've been sent to The Catacombs two separate times but don't feel any more close to finishing the game.
Who do I talk to go get this show moving?
How do I push the main quest. I've killed the Griffon, I met in the Princess Tower, I've got a Level 36 character but now I mostly want to make progress. I've been sent to The Catacombs two separate times but don't feel any more close to finishing the game.
Who do I talk to go get this show moving?
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
In all my 600+ hours of playing, I have never seen a Griffin in postgame -- hell, I hardly ever see them before that.
The Notice Board quest to kill 3 Griffins takes forever.
"Look, Master! A Griffin!"
*Griffin lands a half-mile away for two seconds then leaves*
That happens 90% of the time.
Talk to Chamberlain Aldous, in the Duke's castle.
Early morning, he hangs out in the upstairs rooms; mid-day, he stands around the Duke's throne.
The Notice Board quest to kill 3 Griffins takes forever.
"Look, Master! A Griffin!"
*Griffin lands a half-mile away for two seconds then leaves*
That happens 90% of the time.
Talk to Chamberlain Aldous, in the Duke's castle.
Early morning, he hangs out in the upstairs rooms; mid-day, he stands around the Duke's throne.
Finish Aldous' quests, if you just want to get to the end you can skip everything else.
Audioboxer
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First jump into the everfall, room of confusion, had to defeat an Eye. Was quite easy.
There are locked doors within the room, am I suppose to be able to open them now, or later?
There are locked doors within the room, am I suppose to be able to open them now, or later?
Started hard mode, I missed a single quest in my last playthtough's for the all quests achievement. Do I need to do everything again on my hard mode run when I transfer stuff over or just wrap up that last missed quest to get the cheevo?
You can concentrate on that quest for the achievement, no need to clear them all in a single playthrough luckily.
Chaos
Member
You can change the vocation of them at the Gran Soren Inn.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Anything locked/closed off in the Everfall cannot be opened.
Onion_Relish
Member
On my first playthrough I got caxton as my LI because I gave him an arisen bond so he would give me a good deal. On my current playthrough I wifed aelinore up, but when I go to beat the game and watch the final cut scene, caxton ended up on the beach again lol, I was pissed needless to say.
Also my mind was blown
Also my mind was blown
when I fought myself from when I first beat the Seneschal. Is it a subtle troll or is it canon that even though you kill yourself you live on?
Audioboxer
Member
Thanks!
So the chamber of confusion cannot be revisited, can the others? Reason I ask is I kept reloading until I managed to get Crimson Plate from the confusion chests (knew I couldn't go back). What about the Chamber of Anxiety/the rest?
Can I keep farming them or is it one chance at the chest again?