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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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Z..
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How is 90 more str "substantially stronger"? Ranger sucks ass, dagger skills are horrible, it's basically just spamming tenfold, no fun at all... Assassin is quite balanced in DA, tbf. Fighter and strider are useless when yuo have Assassin, I don't like playing mage/sorcerer, so essentially I mostly play Ass, MK and MA.Warrior is cool, but becomes very underpowered in these later stages, sadly.
That's why my mage has ice affinity. And, again, how is 90 more str "drastically better"? You guys are simply refusing to acknowledge the game's flawed progression, here... Just because you were already lvl 200 when you fought it doesn't mean that's how the average person does it. It's in the wrong place. At my level it's a fucking chore. A very very boring one, too. And since I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be and have all the gear I should (in theory) at the point I'm at, there's only the game's design to blame, here.
Anyway, I went ahead and dived into Hard mode, gonna start BBI over. ^^
I'm comparing swords but the increase between the weapons classes is comparable. Swords are the only ones where I have both gold forged so for convenience I'll compare them.
Gold forged Ascalon is: STR 838 MAG 639
Gold forged Devilsbane is: STR 1848
In addition to only having to pass one defense stat Devilsbane can be enchanted to increase the damage even more. Also the enemies, especially drakes have high defense. Fire Drakes have high HP and high resistances to when your damage is split you do noticeably less damage to them.
anybody have a spare Rusted Bow, per chance? I haven't had any luck @ gather spots, and Reynard is not available.It doesn't need to be DF'd or anything. I can do that myself. Thanks!
Are you on Xbox or PS3?
xaosslug
Member
my bad - PS3.
CadetMahoney
Member
wow does it really prevent fall damage? Like from big heights.
Just started BBI with a 104lvl assassin. Just got to the part
I am going to assume the monsters lvl to your lvl when you start.
Is their any fast travel here, or do I unlock shortcuts as I progress?
with the super large troll with the big spike club, who promptly killed my entire party, I was of course able to defeat him
Is their any fast travel here, or do I unlock shortcuts as I progress?
Can't help then, I'm on 360.
They don't scale level, and yes you do unlock shortcuts as you progress, two of them.
Tell me about it, I had to follow a guide too, there was quest I would have missed completely without it. >_< By the time I got that achievement I was already level 200. =/
xaosslug
Member
OK,so I got a lvl.3 cursed weapon. When I purify as magick archer (w/ main pawn as sorcerer) I get dominion claw, and when I purify w/ my main pawn as strider I get framae blades... is there any chance I can get blackwing bow if I keep dying/retrying to purify this same cursed item?
No, it will remain the same item you have to get another lvl3 cursed item to try again.
Augemitbutter
Member
why don't you try and see what you like? there is no wrong way in this game. try them both.
endlessflood
Member
Exactly. You can't really get yourself into a 'bad' position with your character, even if you try. You might not end up with the optimal build, but you won't end up with a bad one; even the worst possible choices from a min/max perspective won't snooker you, you might just need to level up a little bit more before taking on BBI.
Personally I think the enjoyment from trying various classes far, far outweighs the possible benefits of going with a min/max build.
xaosslug
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AlphaQuack
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Could anyone give me some advice on taking down the Cursed Dragon on Bitterblack Isle? I am literally tearing my hair out after all the failed attempts i've had on this damned bird, and it is stopping me from progressing and enjoying the rest of this amazing game.
So i am a lv. 60-ish Fighter teaming up with a Strider and Mage for this dungeon - and both my pawns just keep getting hit by the tail and contributing nothing to help me take this bird down. I've managed to take down the dragon for the majority of his bars but only because the dragon got stuck in a loop of animation when i was holding onto his front leg stabbing his Crystal for a proper 4-6 minutes. After all my mushrooms and other stamina curatives were gone it was just a fight until i messed up and got hit by his acid bomb and instantly died.
I am at the point of giving up, but i have loved every second of this game but i don't want to waste my time on these bosses when i get home from work and just want to continue the adventure.
Ugh. Also i do have that Dragon's Maw skill in case your interested.
So i am a lv. 60-ish Fighter teaming up with a Strider and Mage for this dungeon - and both my pawns just keep getting hit by the tail and contributing nothing to help me take this bird down. I've managed to take down the dragon for the majority of his bars but only because the dragon got stuck in a loop of animation when i was holding onto his front leg stabbing his Crystal for a proper 4-6 minutes. After all my mushrooms and other stamina curatives were gone it was just a fight until i messed up and got hit by his acid bomb and instantly died.
I am at the point of giving up, but i have loved every second of this game but i don't want to waste my time on these bosses when i get home from work and just want to continue the adventure.
Ugh. Also i do have that Dragon's Maw skill in case your interested.
Is the cursed dragon spawning from being attracted by corpses? If so you may be able to run through and avoid until you are stronger. There is a part in a cathedral area where you encounter one with a bishop dude as part of BBI progression, but otherwise you can just run from it.
Failing that, can you get some higher level pawns to help you? You can send me a friend request (PSN: volpanic) and I'll set my pawn up as a mage with the appropriate skills to save you RC. Enemy knowledge helps a lot in BBI.
I didn't experiment much as fighter, but it was relatively safe to be under the dragon's chest and tusk/antler tossing until the dragon fell and was vulnerable for mawing. If you have stamina, the safest way is to cling to the dragon and just keep normal-attacking the crystal. It's best not to be dead-center on the chest (he can grab you or swipe at you if you are). The regular sword attack should hit the crystal even if you are kind of in his armpit.
If you don't have ascalon, make sure your caster has holy affinity for help with damage. Remember that you can stack periapts to raise your def and your attack and make the fight shorter.
Finally got the Virge of Madness and Diabolical Shield on one BBI run.
My damage output just got a lot higher.........
Starting to appreciate Maces a lot more now, especially when their damage rating is just below Longswords which is just insane IMO.
Guess I'll let my pawn stay as a fighter using Devilsbane.
My damage output just got a lot higher.........
Starting to appreciate Maces a lot more now, especially when their damage rating is just below Longswords which is just insane IMO.
Guess I'll let my pawn stay as a fighter using Devilsbane.
Warrior if you want to cleave shit in half and feel like Gatsu. Mystic Knight if you want your system to suffer
I was running with a lvl 105 assassin and I was getting my ass rocked, don't' see how you could possibly do it.
Just beat BBI and the main game for a second time with my assassin, I'm pretty much done with the game now, I'm not into grinding. May play again sometime with a magic archer anybody have any experience with them?
AlphaQuack
Neo Member
Yeah i've been meaning to get my hands on Ascalon for some time now but haven't actually made the effort for it (thinking something better would drop along the way..). Im currently running around with a sword called Eden's Warden which is almost upgraded to its limit but it is nothing compared to the stats of an Ascalon which would surely help me out a lot in BBI.
Should i just leave the dungeon and head straight for the Ur-Dragon or continue with my current gear and hope for the best?
Update: Thank the gods! Managed to take the bird down and get my Dragon's Dogma forged and on top of that level up. Best way to start my vacation on!
stn
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Got the game today, love it!!! Few questions...
1. I installed the texture pack and Japanese voice track first. I put the game disc in and have tried to install it. Doesn't work? I noticed the game is running MUCH quieter than other games so it is already installed?????
2. Is there any point to buying any of the item DLC? I love unique gear but wouldn't want to pay for gear that I can already get.
Thanks.
1. I installed the texture pack and Japanese voice track first. I put the game disc in and have tried to install it. Doesn't work? I noticed the game is running MUCH quieter than other games so it is already installed?????
2. Is there any point to buying any of the item DLC? I love unique gear but wouldn't want to pay for gear that I can already get.
Thanks.
1. The game takes ages to start installing, but it will eventually. Mine did. Can't comment on it running quieter because I never tried it without installing.
2. There's only one armour DLC for Dark Arisen, and its available from the shop at Bitterblack Isle. It includes clothing worn by some new NPCs.
There are also some rings that grant extra high level skills on the Marketplace that you probably won't need to think about for a while anyway.
Anything else on the marketplace is already included on the Dark Arisen disc.
Finally beat this after taking a break to play other games. Wow, the ending is one of the best endings I've ever seen in a game. Makes me pretty excited for Dragon's Dogma 2 (at least I hope they plan on doing a sequel. I think it sold pretty well so maybe we'll get another one). My only thing is, why wasn't the rest of the story centered around the ending? It seems like most of the game's story is irrelevant to what happens at the end. There are so many things about this game that are confusing but at the same time interesting. Great game, too bad it took me this to getting around to playing and beating it.
kyubajin
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Got the game a week or so ago, 40+ hours in I just met the Duke Doing EVERYTHING and exploring everything.
My char has maxed out Fighter, Assassin and I'm currently working on Mystic Knight to then jump into Magical Archer. Am I doing it right?
My pawn has maxed out Mage and Sorcerer but she's a full time healing Mage now. I'll be applying weapon buffs with the MK and my hirelings should be in charge of the DPS. Should I get a Ranger and a Warrior? Any recommended parties?
Doing EVERYTHING and exploring everything.My char has maxed out Fighter, Assassin and I'm currently working on Mystic Knight to then jump into Magical Archer. Am I doing it right?
My pawn has maxed out Mage and Sorcerer but she's a full time healing Mage now. I'll be applying weapon buffs with the MK and my hirelings should be in charge of the DPS. Should I get a Ranger and a Warrior? Any recommended parties?
Thanks. I pretty much maxed most of the main equipment now, hope i didn't overdo it.
The ending bugs me because
I made my choice and the game just turned around and said 'wrong, try again'.
Oh man, I'm even higher now. Oh well. Gonna start in.
My imported save to Dark Arisen was post-game the second time through, with all the quests done w/ max affinity and the best results to get that achievement. From my understanding all the original armor DLC that is included in DA has to be found from merchants. However, in post-game, are they still accessible? I really don't want to start the story over. I prefer to keep the Everfall open and harder enemies active. Am I out of luck?
I don't really know about DLC amour to be honest. But there is a merchant on BBI so you could always check. He is close to the surface when you first meet him so you could check before going too deep. He is the only merchant on the island as far as I am aware.
To be honest I think BBI is better that the post-game Everfall. Once you start adventuring there you won't want to leave. I just started my second playthrough of BBI and they restocked the whole dungeon with just insane sh*t that I had never even seen before. It's so hardcore, man. It's glorious.
It's just so action-packed.Oh, duh. Yeah totally forgot. Thanks.
I think it also scales to be honest because I'm fairly sure I felt a ramp up during my play through. Could have imagined it though...
Anyone know if my character can still get a haircut post game? I think he needs a makeover...
The barber is gone post-game, but you can still edit your appearance outside of the game via the editor if you buy that one charm thing from the vendor at the Encampment.
I think the barber is in the craftsmen's quarter in post-game. Look for the tents in the field.
Oh, yeah, I always forget there are people over there. Is there anyone else of note in the section post-game? Guess I should wander through there at some point and have a look around.
TheBryanJZX90
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Aw man apparently there's another ur dragon event where he's weaker than normal, but I keep timing out trying to fight him.