sublimit
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There's no co-op in DD.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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There's no co-op in DD.
Yep.
ThankeeSai
Member
Had the original on 360, got swamped with other games, never did get around to finishing it. Barely scratched the surface tbh.
Pretty much up to date with everything now, have no 360 any more, but have picked up for my PS3 (should be arriving from Amazon today). Really can't wait to get back into it again.
Can't decide on a character class, though. Went as an archer last time, I never go as mage type characters in any of these types of RPG and may well give it a try.
Any recommendations? Good/bad points about magic users?
Pretty much up to date with everything now, have no 360 any more, but have picked up for my PS3 (should be arriving from Amazon today). Really can't wait to get back into it again.
Can't decide on a character class, though. Went as an archer last time, I never go as mage type characters in any of these types of RPG and may well give it a try.
Any recommendations? Good/bad points about magic users?
sublimit
Banned
Thanks.
Another question:Can you place a port crystal there and teleport whenever you want?(perhaps somewhere near the last boss?)
toddhunter
Member
For people who like it, was there a hump to get over before it "clicked" or was it easy from the start?
I want to play a big session tonight to try to get into it, but I've been struggling.
I want to play a big session tonight to try to get into it, but I've been struggling.
sublimit
Banned
For me it didn't "clicked" until i was on my second playthrough.On my first playthough i was kinda noticing more of its negatives rather than the positives but on my second playthrough i became addicted to it.I think i'm on my fifth playthrough right now,preparing my team for Bitter Black island (i haven't got DA yet).
Not having fun with Bitterblack at the moment. These big enemy fights are incredibly frustrating - once my pawns get low HP and can't nuke, the party is completely helpless. There's the darkness, poor frame rate, and for some reason my main hero does jack shit for damage.
I used to relish big fights in DD... but in Bitterblack it's just not coming together for me, sadly.
I used to relish big fights in DD... but in Bitterblack it's just not coming together for me, sadly.
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I used to feel the same way, after the novelty of dying wore off. However, I'm not exactly sure what happened tonight because the monsters that were giving me trouble before are dying 10x faster. I haven't upgraded my weapons so that's not the reason they're dying faster. Pawns are also behaving much better, perhaps they just needed knowledge against the new enemies. Keep at it and see if it gets easier for you as well, just keep in mind that it took at least 10 hours for me to reach this point.
I used to feel the same way, after the novelty of dying wore off. However, I'm not exactly sure what happened tonight because the monsters that were giving me trouble before are dying 10x faster. I haven't upgraded my weapons so that's not the reason they're dying faster. Pawns are also behaving much better, perhaps they just needed knowledge against the new enemies. Keep at it and see if it gets easier for you as well, just keep in mind that it took at least 10 hours for me to reach this point.
sublimit
Banned
Judging from posts like this (and from people that i know who love challenge in their games) it seems to me that the new area is very unballanced.They probably thought "hey Dark Souls is very popular lets make an area as frustrated as possible" without really putting much thought behind it.
The difference though is that the challenge and frustration is Demon's/Dark Souls is very well planned out and quite ballanced in contrast from what i hear about BBI.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
So, I got to the first pawn summon stone. First time playing.
I go in to recruit some pawns and a see a bunch from people on my friends list. They are like at level infinity or 90 or some shit and super powered and they apparently cost 0 RC to use them, while pawns from other xbox live players who aren't my friends cost more RC than I have (which is 28) despite being at a low level (i.e, less than 10)
Game balance thrown out the window? The fuck...
Edit: Burgerdog is one of them. Has like some high level pawn that I hired. Killed the hydra before I even made my first attempt to grab.
I go in to recruit some pawns and a see a bunch from people on my friends list. They are like at level infinity or 90 or some shit and super powered and they apparently cost 0 RC to use them, while pawns from other xbox live players who aren't my friends cost more RC than I have (which is 28) despite being at a low level (i.e, less than 10)
Game balance thrown out the window? The fuck...
Edit: Burgerdog is one of them. Has like some high level pawn that I hired. Killed the hydra before I even made my first attempt to grab.
Yeah, I might just have had a run of good luck, but it's seeming to be a lot easier to Dragonforge in Dark Arisen, or at least a lot more consistent.
Making it easier is fine by me, since it makes upgrading equipment a lot less reliant on Ur farming and save scumming.
Pawns equal to or lower than your level are free to hire, as are the pawns of people on your friends list. Pawns higher than your level from people not on your friends list cost Rift Crystals.
If you hire your friend's uber-pawns they'll make the game a lot easier, but you'll receive an experience penalty for having pawns above your level.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Ohhh - kay.
The game has a shit ton of tutorial prompts but never mentioned that bit. How does the penalty percentage work? By each level higher than mine or is it just one universal penalty irregardless of how much higher the support pawns are?
toddhunter
Member
What is the best choice starting out for the pawns vocation? Do AI mages do a good job?
Shadow Ranger
Member
My Pawn was great as a mage. Buffed when needed, cured when needed and always helped me. She was also solid as a Strider, too, but I fear this might ruin her once I change her back to Mage (when I get my game!) Only issue I had is she ran off to kill things a lot. My fault for alignment change.
Then I hired someone else's Mage/Sorceress and she was terrible.
Youc an adjust your pawn's alignment if things aren't working out though.
My pawn's name was 'Rayne'. If she sucked for anyone here then...it's because she didn't like you!
Then I hired someone else's Mage/Sorceress and she was terrible.
Youc an adjust your pawn's alignment if things aren't working out though.
My pawn's name was 'Rayne'. If she sucked for anyone here then...it's because she didn't like you!
It's an increasing penalty the more levels above you they are, capping at 20 levels above you. I forget the precise formula, but two hired pawns 20+ levels higher than your Arisen cuts your experience gain down to ~50%.
Hiring high-level pawns is actually a strategy people use when trying for a min-max build, since you need to gain access to advanced vocations at precisely level 10 for optimal stat growth.
The opposite for me. As you can see on my stream I'm destroying everything without a problem.
Yes it includes the full game.
endlessflood
Member
What level and class are you playing Kyoufu?
112 Magick Archer.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
For the beginning at least, strider hits hard and you're obviously ranged.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Heads up if you buy the PSN version...The download and installation takes quite some time. Load times are apparently nearly the same, so if you intend to resell it later, go physical
And you get no manual, so don't let that be a factor.
Yeah I'll use her again later, but I'm switching around my pawns a bit to try and find a formula that works for me.
I actually think your lower level is helping you here. I'm level 150, and the difference in power between a 115 and a 150 is really miniscule, but if the monsters are scaled up on a linear path based on your main character level, then I may be dealing with monsters 50% stronger than yours without any significant boost to my character's strength.
Which vocation are you playing?
Persona RS
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That depends on the vocation that you are using. Each vocation has it's own stat growth.
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Hm, that witchwood quest you get early on is quite epic for being an early game quest. Getting to the woods alone is an adventure and then once in there..geez. Had a phantom monster thing literally one shot my pawn. Like he disappeared. It was weird. But awesome.
Although one thing I realized is the thief quest that should be available from the innkeeper isn't. Apparently quests can trigger at different times on different runs. Great.
Although one thing I realized is the thief quest that should be available from the innkeeper isn't. Apparently quests can trigger at different times on different runs. Great.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
So far ,all the Bitterblack loot I've found is substantially better than even the weapons from The Dragon and Ur-Dragon. The sword, Cursed Bite, does over 1200dmg when rarefied to gold, and it's not a two-hander.
There's also enchanted bows, finally; I have a fire one that is great.
I beat it,
There's a Daimon v.2 fight after defeating him the first time. Haven't made my way down there again yet, though.
As long as there are no enemies alerted to you/not in combat.
Hmm, interesting. I'd guess that's not possible based on the fact that the only way to teleport out of the labyrinth is by Liftstone, Ferrystones don't work in there.
I'll try to take some pics of some of the stuff I've found so far.
Yeah, but the drop-off for stat growths after level 100 are pretty dramatic across the board. Pre-100 vocations gain 11-13 points distributed across physical and magical attack and defense, post-100 all vocations gain exactly 4 points per level. Going from level 100-200 is about equivalent, stats-wise, to going from 65-100.
I don't think there's any hard data collected for scaling on Bitterblack, but it's possible that the enemies are scaling up faster than the Arisen and pawns are beyond level 100.
It shouldn't matter, really.
I'm getting 1-shotted by some enemies, and I'm literally doing so little damage with my attacks that I don't see enemy health bars move.
odd_morsel's pawn and I with Hundred Kisses. I would kiss Cherry hundred times. She's an awesome pawn. <3
Yeah, that sorcerer that my pawn is kicking the poop out of? He one-shots me.
sublimit
Banned
Heh,makes sense.It would have been very "cheap" otherwise.
odd_morsel's pawn and I with Hundred Kisses. I would kiss Cherry hundred times. She's an awesome pawn. <3
That's awesome.
Persona RS
Member
Sure, but in long term, you will notice the differences, especially if you are using a strenght build or a magic build.
Between levels 100 and 200, Assassin vocation gives you 3 points in str per level. Fighter vocation only gives you 1 str point per level.
It shouldn't matter, really.
I'm getting 1-shotted by some enemies, and I'm literally doing so little damage with my attacks that I don't see enemy health bars move.
Yeah, that sorcerer that my pawn is kicking the poop out of? He one-shots me.
How did you evolved your characters and what's your stats?
Anyway, the new enemies sure look very challenging. I'm curious to see how good/bad may pawn will be. lol
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So what exactly did Patrick Klepek not like about the game? I'm too lazy to go back and find his comments on the casts. I know he liked the combat but I remember him being meh about the rest.
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I only have 3 hours with it but it has everything shit like Skyrim lacks imo. It gives a great Dragon Age vibe though.
The only benefit would be any augments you'd want from her other vocations. Mine has all the vocations I wouldn't equip for myself (such as Radiance).
Otherwise, no, not really necessary to max her other vocations.
sublimit
Banned
I hated both Skyrim's and Dragon Age's combat but i love the combat (and animations) in DD.
Ah thanks.What about stats like defense,stamina etc?Are these only affected by level?
Buy empty flasks from the shop in Gran Soren, then head to a Healing Spring north-west of the city. Distribute Spring Water with your party of pawns and voila, you now cannot die.