eXistor
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Broke my save game. Had to re-import my DD save and start DA over.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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Broke my save game. Had to re-import my DD save and start DA over.
I could be wrong but I don't think you can gift or rate vanilla pawns?
HalfBakedProphet
Member
I'm convinced there is some kind of limited scaling (I don't understand how it works exactly and I don't think it applies to all monsters, but it makes sense) the moment you start the dungeon...meaning its going to be difficult for most vocations at the beginning. I started the dungeon at mid-80s and it was very rough. People lower than that had trouble but still did it. People a lot higher than that had trouble. That's why there is video of similar leveled players getting murdered and then someone else destroying everything. It depends on where you start and how many times you've beat the dungeon. Once you begin getting the new equipment, silver and gold dragon forging, things start taking a turn for the better.
People need to look at BBI as a kind of new starting point. The idea of getting stronger and progression IS STILL ON BITTERBLACK ISLE. You WILL start to turn the tide. Its not some cheap, unfair challenge with no bearing on what equipment you have on or what your stats are. Your character can and will improve on the island. I couldnt fight one Eliminator before, I just killed 3 at once.
Persona RS
Member
I used your pawn against Ur-dragon (6 complete fights) so you should receive a good amount of RC.
Eliminators really aren't so bad - they're super weak to fire, and the standard fire nuke puts them on their ass fast.
I've had good luck since switching to Mystic Knight. I also dropped a Sorc pawn and went 2x Mage + my ranger pawn and it's been great. The fact that Mystic Knight has a really sick Holy Enchant available makes it easy if the pawns aren't casting any enchants.
Great Cannon is just so good. Kills your framerate though, my god. I was getting like 5-6 FPS or there abouts.
I've had good luck since switching to Mystic Knight. I also dropped a Sorc pawn and went 2x Mage + my ranger pawn and it's been great. The fact that Mystic Knight has a really sick Holy Enchant available makes it easy if the pawns aren't casting any enchants.
Great Cannon is just so good. Kills your framerate though, my god. I was getting like 5-6 FPS or there abouts.
I got something like 20k RC. Thank you sir.
I ditched the mage Pawn and hired another Ranger (yours). Going for a full team of archers.
Persona RS
Member
I got something like 20k RC. Thank you sir.
I ditched the mage Pawn and hired another Ranger (yours). Going for a full team of archers.
That wasn't me. I just released your pawn 10 minutes ago.
And thanks for hiring my pawn.
Feeroper
Member
I picked this up on PS3. I find the FPS a little annoying. Was wondering if anyone could tell me if it is worthwhile to pick up the 360 version instead and trade in the PS3 version? I know 360 has tearing issues, but I wondered if its FPS are that much better to warrant a switch? Or if the the frame rate is just marginally better? I'd rather just keep the PS3 version as I wouldn't have to pay more that way and I've already started the game on PS3, but if the 360 versions frame rate is much better I might consider a swap out.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Go check the digital foundry comparison. Honestly, after about 10 hours, I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary when it comes to framerate. If you've played most third party PS3 games this gen, surely you're used to how games run. Souls, Bayonetta, Dragon Age, whatever.. it's not egregious enough to warrant switching copies. Though if you really value rate over screen tearing, by all means. I fuckin hate screen tearing.
Dick Justice
Banned
Really? I've personally found the framerate so far to be surprisingly fine, apart from some drops when a bunch of NPCs are on-screen in Gran Soren.
Jesus christ is this game really this low-res? I'm not even a graphics nut but holy hell if this isn't the lowest resolution I've seen on 360 ... I installed the "Install CD" that is supposed to contain the HD resolution pack but it still looks like total crap!
Anyone had this problem or is the game really this low-res?
Anyone had this problem or is the game really this low-res?
It's because most the pawns are not DDDA. You can only do that for DDDA pawns.
Which reminds me. Again, they need to change the way it chooses pawns to put in your search results/in your world to prioritize ACTIVE PLAYERS. Because it does not, and in totality there are far more inactive players than active players (it's over a year old now), the result is people playing the game now pretty much can never have their pawn summoned by anyone. My pawn is almost level 40 now in DDDA and I've never had it summoned. Not once. Despite me always giving it my best gear and keeping it above par for other pawns its level. It's competing against a vast sea of inactive pawns made by players through the ages, for a smaller pool of active players who need pawns, and the chances of being selected are low because of it.
Comparatively, last year in my original playthrough of the original game, my crappy pawn was summoned many times a day.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Did you miss the giant black bars lol? Yes, it's bad. Not god awful, but bad.
Unless you go in at 200. (I have a friend who did this)
personally, I don't mind. the framerate could use some improvement, that's my one complaint. The low res textures I can live with since the art direction is so solid.
people are so conditioned to focus on technical aspects of graphics, like a blurry texture -- That you're not seeing the really strong aspects of the game's visuals. Namely, the movement of the game. Not just the movement of the players and enemies, mind you, but the movement of the world as well. I've never seen windy shrubbery and trees as cool as this in a game. Note some abilities and magic cause the trees and grass to blow around! With how great the world moves in mind, I feel this game looks better than skyrim in every regard, the animation is obvious, since skyrim has notoriously bad animation, but I think DD rivals/surpasses it in how good the environments look. DD wasn't my GOTY 2012 for nothing.
Not enough can be said about the design and animation of this game. The enemies always move great, but when the game is at its strongest -- When harpies are swooping down and ramming your party, or when a gryphon is wreaking havoc -- There's honestly nothing that compares. I don't care about the textures, the impact from this design and direction and animation is unmatched by any game, you can't get that level of impact from a higher res texture or whatever the latest technology is. This comes from skilled designers and artisans and animators. DD is fucking beast.
Audioboxer
Member
Got my copy today, so is starting out as a strider a good shout?
Deified Data
Banned
There's probably no way to say this without sounding like a condescending douche, but I genuinely pity those people who let graphical issues hold them back from enjoying an otherwise great game.
Probably the best class for beginners, IMO.
Probably the best class for beginners, IMO.
You have to run it like a game to install the HD textures. I installed the texture disc as a normal game at first and quickly found out that it never worked.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
your old equipment can still be silver/gold dragon forged, and the strongest equipment in the game is on the island and can additionally be upgraded. Plus the new, upgraded attacks
Being maxed out before doesnt stop you from becoming better/more powerful on BBI
I agree completely. It's their loss though, so whatever.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
Burgerdog, your pawns new meteor spell is fucking ridiculous!
Feeroper
Member
Yeah its not as bad as I may make it sound, I think its just becuase I tend to really hate frame drops the way others here seem to hate screen tearing. But I just wanted to see if in this case it was worth swapping out or not. I read the digital foundry comparison, but Id rather hear from people who have played both versions without just getting a bunch of numbers, or seeing comparison videos that highlight only specific moments. I guess I just wanted an overall opinion. If the 360 is also having similar frame issues but is only marginally better then I wont bother, but if this is more of a Bayonetta situation then I may consider it.
you only need to complete the prologue, and make a character
Audioboxer
Member
Thanks!
Is there anyone on here who I can add as a friend (PS3) who'd have a pawn that can help me from the start?
My PSN is Audioboxer, add away if so! Thanks
SloaneRisette
Member
Magick Archer+Hunter Bolt vs Gorecyclops Prisoner is a 10-0 matchup free.
Thank you
Deified Data
Banned
My PSN is Deified_Data and my pawn is in the mid-30's, feel free to add me if you like.
TheMan
Member
sorry if this has been answered but this thread is too big. i'm starting out as a strider for a change of pace because i'm almost always a mage or a fighter in these kinds of fantasy games. my problem is that my bow seems to do fuck all damage and my pawns end up doing all the work. do i get adequately powerful later or am i doing something wrong?
How far are you? Striders/Assasins will wreck shit in the mid-to-late game in DD. Early going is always rough. I imagine it's the bandits giving you grief?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Er, are you using your three arrow ability? Are you having your pawns enchant you with magic? Did you get a real bow from the store? My strider was an absolute beast from level 1 on.
Sanctuary
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I think you greatly overestimate the "go" and "come" commands. They are more like a 50/50 chance your pawn will actually do anything. Sometimes when you use the help command, you have to mash it before even a utilitarian Mage will start doing anything.
Also, what the fuck is up with all of the "Guardian" Rangers? What I wouldn't give to see a single Challenger/Mitigator combo on a ranged class. They don't exist.
So, what's the deal with the expansion stuff? Is there garbage level scaling or not? There seems like a lot of miscommunication amongst the players. Level scaling is like the ABSOLUTE worst thing you could do in a game/RPG. It completely turns me off and it's a horrible philosophy. I played through vanilla Dogma back when it was released and liked it a lot. Not sure if I'm willing to spend another $40 for a game that isn't even a year old yet (Capcom being Capcom, never change) despite how good/cool the Dark Arisen stuff is. Whether or not if there's dumpster scaling will determine if I'll pick it up soon.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
This game game begs for a pc port...
Start as Fighter. 1-10.
R_thanatos
Member
I abuse all 3 command all the time and my party didn't let me down once ( so far in either my 2 playtroughts of the vanilla game or my 5 hours so far in bitterblack isle) .
Death arrived in the place i say "screw this we're escaping" and they freaking followed me when i said "come".
My pawn party follow my orders... so ATM i have no problems.
Now i'm ordering my pawn around since god know when.
Ihave rented a pawn that has priority on healing+condition so the instant i have something her priority is to get rid of it...
So right now i think i'm not overestimating the commands i feel fine with them.
TheMan
Member
yeah, i've been killed by bandits and a group of invisible lizard dudes while trying to complete the same stupid quest, losing about 15 minutes each time. kind of annoying.
no i'm not using any abilities, need to look into how that works. pawns are enchanting me, which helps a bit, but not tremendously. I spent most of my money on armor and i've enhanced my bow once...guess i need to save some gold and buy a new one.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
its difficult to say on the scaling, there is confusion because we aren't really sure how it works yet. It is not straight across the board scaling, that much Im sure of. The new island starts out pretty difficult/cheap and gets easier, just like the main game. The dungeon changes and mixes things up every time you go through it.
If you like vanilla DD, I absolutely recommend it. I'm totally addicted. There is a lot of new, awesome loot, so if that's the type of thing that interests you, give it a shot.
Sanctuary
Member
I think you just may have a much higher tolerance for bad AI. The Mage combo you describe too is one that almost never actually does anything but heal you as soon as you get a scratch. It spends almost all of it's time healing and rarely doing anything offensive.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
This is definitely what my mage pawn does. My sorcerer pawn also doesn't do much, fighter pawn..sometimes hits stuff..
SloaneRisette
Member
Ok, so the Gorecyclops prisoner vs Magick Archer is free for the Magick Archer, but fighting the Gazer is an absolute bitch.
That was even easier. Just use the pillar.
Using the "Come" and "Help" commands both shift your pawn's inclination toward Guardian, which is why that inclination is an epidemic.
If you want to maintain your pawn's inclinations you essentially can't ever use the d-pad commands. Use the elixirs to set your pawn's inclinations the way you want them then never, ever issue a command.
"Help" also increases Medicant, and as I recall "Go" increases either Pioneer or Scather depending on whether or not you're in combat when you use it. That's why almost all pawns in the rift have some combination of Guardian, Medicant, Pioneer, and Scather regardless of class. It's a pretty rare player who never uses the d-pad, from my observation. And that's sad, because outside of Scather those inclinations are largely useless.
This seems to be as good a post as any to reiterate that I kinda hate the inclination system.
Well, I just beat what I assumed was the last boss (the demon guy on the cover) and
Was at level 73 and with only 2 pawns because my main got killed by all of the shadow warriors on the way. It took 5 wakestones and nearly an hour, but I beat him and gained 3 more levels from doing it. Looks like it just continues.
released him.