HuntTheMusic
Neo Member
Just got back from Iron Man 3 and found this in my post box box. Best Saturday in a long time. Any idea of what the install size is for the HD textures and Japanese voice track on the 360 version? I need to make some room.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'd smang it. But I'll probably remake her in a bit to make her more..alluring.
I have a fighter pawn at level 24 or 25. Whatever the advanced warrior class is called. Will be playing some more tonight.
Skillzilla81 on psn
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I'll add zilla and phierce later as well since we're in the same range.
Bassmastergeneral
Member
Alright thanks for the tip, hopefully didn't screw myself though casually browsing here it seems a lot of people favor the mystic knight. BBI has been a pretty jarring difficulty spike.
You can add me if you need a good strider pawn. She's good all around with good Armor stats and skills
I had to double check, but I already have Vespian with me! She is doing a good job so far.
Absolutely.
I have found a random dragon in Devilfire Grove as I am trying to figure out how to get where Mercedes wants me to escort her to for "Scouting Mission". First attempt at fighting it, I jumped on it's back and it took off... falling from that height is an instant death.
Oh I am quite happy to admit I may need to do a few other things to help myself. Probably revolving around play as Magic Archer and shooting/stabbing everything. What really did me was
sorcerer, flying things and gorecyclops. Went in as assassin, malestrom in the face. Tried as sorcerer, seism one shot. Tried assaain again, run to little room at side, then ran out and stabbed the skeletons quick time. Only my pawn decided as I was doing this to set loose the cyclops. So I rush for next area. Oh, two bandit types. That seemingly take no damage from anything. Not making a dent. Rush for door, get through it.
Open first chest, ruddy worm. Go into next room, and big hammer dude and more bandit types. Still doing no damage. Welp, I am done.
Oh, and as I was trying to do the sorcerer room I had death spawning as soon as I loaded the save.
Open first chest, ruddy worm. Go into next room, and big hammer dude and more bandit types. Still doing no damage. Welp, I am done.
Oh, and as I was trying to do the sorcerer room I had death spawning as soon as I loaded the save.
Just feeling like too much of a grind, I do not feel like bashing my head against it until I can do it. This is not a slight on the game as such, I just do not fancy the challenge. Annoying for me really, DD is the only game I have ever 1000/1000, got a chunk of dragon forced gear and my pawn is not completely terrible. Could always go through main game again and see if BBI really does scale I suppose.
Knux-Future
Banned
Yeah this just isn't fun anymore...
each battle feels like a chore because you do shit damage and leveling up doesn't help.
Dissapointment city right now.
I'm at the sorcerer and dragon fight and it's just annoying and none of my attack or pawns are doing shit....
fuck this shit.
I loved DD and it was hard at times but you felt like after getting stronger you could take on anything..this just feels like nothing you do matters so get ready for 30 minute fights of tedium and health managment.
meh
each battle feels like a chore because you do shit damage and leveling up doesn't help.
Dissapointment city right now.
I'm at the sorcerer and dragon fight and it's just annoying and none of my attack or pawns are doing shit....
fuck this shit.
I loved DD and it was hard at times but you felt like after getting stronger you could take on anything..this just feels like nothing you do matters so get ready for 30 minute fights of tedium and health managment.
meh
Yeah. I usually give my pawns 15 or so Harspud Sauce each. Survivability is definitely better if they have their own items.
Yes.
Damn. I really don't know what to advise other than the usual Spring Waters/Mushrooms. Using a bow on your Assassin is necessary too.
I don't know your gear exactly or the skills you use so I can't be specific.
As Assassin you shouldn't be having problems climbing onto enemies and destroying them with Hundred Kisses. What is your general strategy?
Bassmastergeneral
Member
I'm at that same fight and feeling somewhat the same way. I'm going to give it 10 more hours trying to get gear with a different class. Otherwise I'll shelve it for now.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Yeah, it seems like you need some uber weaponry to deal damage at a decent rate. Pawns dropping like flies is also an issue. It sometimes got to the point where I was raising pawns every 5-10 seconds because they would just run in and get themselves killed.
Dragon's Dogma devs, please look at God Eater: Burst for how to design effective allied AI that don't become immense liabilities against strong enemies.
Much to my frustration once, yes. Had to round up skulls, kept them in my inventory in case it auto completed since I didn't remember (it doesn't), handed them off to a meathead pawn I spawned so I wouldn't be kept at heavy, and I was short of MORE than when I went to the catacombs initially because he was lobbing them around and I didn't notice. Still gave good marks when sending back since it's something out of the pawn creator's control and it was an avoidable freak incident, but I did throw him to the bottom of the Everfall then reloaded because I wanted to vent somehow.
Are you guys hitting the dragon (it has very little health) then hitting the Sorcerer? That fight is really simple.
Also don't take Sorcerer pawns unless they have a bunch of Affinity spells.
In fact Affinity spells are very very good for BBI whereas spells like High Bolide are a waste of time.
Also don't take Sorcerer pawns unless they have a bunch of Affinity spells.
In fact Affinity spells are very very good for BBI whereas spells like High Bolide are a waste of time.
Onion_Relish
Member
Is she aggressive enough? I find she is really adept at finding a good balance Between fighting and self preservation but another opinion would be great
SloaneRisette
Member
In a fight with two Gorecyclops at once, none of my pawns are doing anything, so I'm just slowly whittling them down with Hunter Bolt with my Sorcerer pawn doing nothing and having a fighter pawn doing nothing either...
This is going to be a while, I have a feeling.
This is going to be a while, I have a feeling.
TheBryanJZX90
Member
This is hilarious. The pawn was all like "wtf why are you giving me this garbage? creepy as hell, dude. fuck that." *tosses skull over shoulder*
I just had a similar experience fighting an ogre in BBI, where I handed out lanterns and oil to all of my pawns, only for every single one of them to spend the entire fight throwing oil flasks at the ogre instead of fighting it.
Use your ice attack. That's what they're weak to.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
Is there a way to summon death? His appearances are really random.
I got his health almost half gone, I want to finish him off
I got his health almost half gone, I want to finish him off
Deified Data
Banned
A tip to whoever owns the mage pawn Liara: in my experience mages tend to do much better with only one affinity spell at a time. Fire will suffice for 90% of the game, really.
SloaneRisette
Member
Oh man, that's doing CONSIDERABLY more damage than Hunter Bolt, thanks! Had no clue that it was their weakness, I had just been doing Hunter Bolt because it let me target so many parts at once.
Jake Tower
Banned
There's a bigass tougher Drake in Duskmoon Tower when you return after finishing the dungeon.
I had to Lifestone out.
I had to Lifestone out.
That's the thing.
I think people are getting frustrated with their lack of damage because they're not using the right element or hitting weak spots.
Tips against the big eye and sorc+dragon bosses.
Destroy all of the Gazer's tentacles, the ones on its body(?) and the ones that it summons on the ground. Once you've done this, it will try to use its ultimate attack on you, destroy all the tentacles and then the boss will fall and you can destroy the eye in no time. It should only take two phases at most if you're weak to kill it this way, simple.
Sorc and Dragon, this is just so easy. Kill the dragon, it only has one life bar and it's super easy to kill. Wait for it to get revived and kill it again, at this point the sorcerer will fall and lie on the floor for a very long time. Slap it, if you can't kill it during that time, kill the dragon again and repeat.
Sorc and Dragon, this is just so easy. Kill the dragon, it only has one life bar and it's super easy to kill. Wait for it to get revived and kill it again, at this point the sorcerer will fall and lie on the floor for a very long time. Slap it, if you can't kill it during that time, kill the dragon again and repeat.
Knux-Future
Banned
I have done that for the sorcdragon boss.
It got revived and i got one shotted by something...not too mention I am doing little to no damage to it.
I will rethink my approach. But my point stands...it is far too frustrating to be any fun..at times of course.
My approach was to focus fire on the sorcerer. Used Holy Affinity, Tenfold arrows and a bunch of mushrooms. Took it down in about 3 or 4 minutes. I was level 70 or so with dragonforged gear.
If you're doing little to no damage to the sorcerer's dragon, you are wildly undergeared. It has basically no life and is a quick 20-second kill. I'd check out my equipment if I were you, perhaps switch main weapons or change up your combat skills.
Sanctuary
Member
I keep looking at the Magick Archer stat growth, and cannot fathom what Capcom was thinking. There's seriously NO justification for it's distribution. The high magic defense seems like it's only there for Backfire/Immolation, but that's not a good enough reason. In fact, if you look at the Strider's stat growth, it's exactly what the MA should be. It's almost like they thought that being diverse is better than being efficient and productive. Seriously, 21/20 vs 25/25 is just pathetic and there's no reason for that.
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Growths
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Growths
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
So i just want to confirm with some other addicts here who have gone through BBI already at least once ...
I needs me some new weapons/armor ... Really digging the look of the new gear and I wanna see it all!
You beat the big bad and then what? Do you get an ending and then tele to the main entrance to start on a 2.0 go around? Or do you have to go back to Gransys or finish the game or whatever and THEN go back? I'm super curious as when I realized I was already at the end of Dark Arisen I turned around and decided to explore and try to find more gear/skills/augs and such before beating him...
Should I just go home tonight and cave his face in? Then get right into my second run? That how it works??
Should I just go home tonight and cave his face in? Then get right into my second run? That how it works??
I needs me some new weapons/armor ... Really digging the look of the new gear and I wanna see it all!
Jake Tower
Banned
Knux-Future
Banned
I am wearing all my best shit and my best weapons tho...
I am only levl 52 tho....so I'm hoping that is the issue...but I have hired a pawn who level 102 (out of frustration...plus she cost me nothing) and she is getting destroyed too...unless she unleashes malstroms.
Grinding time I guess.
Yeah MA stat growth is weird.
I think they should scrap this current stat growth system in favour of manual stat distribution upon level up. Would be way better.
They can still encourage you to play as other vocations with augments and skills.
She's getting destroyed because she's trying to cast Maelstrom. Trust me, that shit is not wise in BBI.
What is your weapon and which augments do you use?
Knux-Future
Banned
I see...Probably gonna drop her...Sorry to whichever gaffer made a Rydia pawn then.
As for me ...I am currently an Assassin, I use a sword because my pawn is a ranger (it is the only thing she is a good at), I think most of my augments grant me strength and extra health as I got them from the warrior and fighter classes. My pawn is similar in terms of augments although I finished DD with her as a sorcerer....so her health is jokes right now.
i will have to rethink my set up I guess...
As for me ...I am currently an Assassin, I use a sword because my pawn is a ranger (it is the only thing she is a good at), I think most of my augments grant me strength and extra health as I got them from the warrior and fighter classes. My pawn is similar in terms of augments although I finished DD with her as a sorcerer....so her health is jokes right now.
i will have to rethink my set up I guess...
The thing is this was all while in the catacombs, implying he was throwing skulls at skeletons (and occasionally zombies.) The guy may well have had screws loose to think of that as a great tactic.
And I recall reading the lanterns for pawns never runs out, so that actually IS the only relevant thing to do (... other than save them for when you need oil, but that goes over their heads.)
I replaced Vehemence with Tenacity. Seemed like the right thing to do.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
So does anyone know if weapons that have both a strength and magick value deal a combined amount of damage? So like say a regular sword has 150 str but eden's warden has 100 strength and 50 magick would it be the same out put?
Oh it would appear they are calculated separately: Elemental weapons deal both physical and magical damage so it takes into consideration both your str and mag at different points of the damage. For example, a sword with pure strength stats alone will deal slashing damage combined by your character's strength only and ignore your magic whereas an Elemental sword deals elemental damage and adds both your strength and magic into the mix.
Although it is a little disappoint that there are no bows that came with an element on them.
Oh it would appear they are calculated separately: Elemental weapons deal both physical and magical damage so it takes into consideration both your str and mag at different points of the damage. For example, a sword with pure strength stats alone will deal slashing damage combined by your character's strength only and ignore your magic whereas an Elemental sword deals elemental damage and adds both your strength and magic into the mix.
Although it is a little disappoint that there are no bows that came with an element on them.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Fuckin awesome. Imma go home and split his wig open tonight for sure.
sssstententen
Member
Started as a warrior, saw people saying Sinew is the good Augment to get.
What should I go for now? I'm at the main city so I can change vocations now.
Also, what Boon's should I equip on my mage pawn, what augments would be good for a mage pawn, any good general vocation/augment paths?
I just hate dumping points into skills that are useless later on.
What should I go for now? I'm at the main city so I can change vocations now.
Also, what Boon's should I equip on my mage pawn, what augments would be good for a mage pawn, any good general vocation/augment paths?
I just hate dumping points into skills that are useless later on.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Keep going with fighter till you get sinew, then you can switch to whatever. For my mage pawn I keep fire/lightning/heal as my primary skills and fire enchant/ice enchant/and some other shit as my secondary. I don't even know what the diff between primary/secondary are. I just hit left on the d-pad when I want her to enchant me. I only have the make enhancements longer augments on her right now as well.
Orpheus Telos
Member
What would be a good time to go to BBI on hard? I started going through it at level 50 something(I can't remember what level it was exactly, it was around the early 50s i think) but I just didn't feel quite strong enough. I'm level 70 now, should I try it again?
sssstententen
Member
Yeah I got sinew, I was thinking of Switching to Warrior to get more raw damage output, but I also heard there are some desirable Augments from Strider/Assassin?
And thanks for the tips for the mage. That's probably the augment I'll go with.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
The 2 gore-cyclops fight at the shadowfort is a goddamn mess.
Knux-Future
Banned
what are the "bad" augments?
I really don't wanna take off my health augments because I am getting one shot as it is lol
I really don't wanna take off my health augments because I am getting one shot as it is lol
In the middle of fighting about 4 Saurians on my way back towards civilization, suddenly a Chimera comes around the giant boulder followed by at least 6 more Saurians.
Kill them all and only had to aid a Pawn once. Felt good.
Love how this game gives you moments like this, the high from surviving is great. Even when other times I have died, it was still a fun experience.
Kill them all and only had to aid a Pawn once. Felt good.
Love how this game gives you moments like this, the high from surviving is great. Even when other times I have died, it was still a fun experience.
SloaneRisette
Member
Seven Wakestones left against Daimon and he destroyed my Mage pawn I hired... this is not a good look.