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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness

You don't have to level up your character as a Fighter. Just stay with the Fighter while you gain DCP for it's vocation. Then when your character is about to level, switch back to Strider, kill something until you level, then switch back to Fighter. Or just wait until you're in your 40's before switching to Fighter to quickly level up it's vocation fast, without it actually taking your character to the next level.

@bold I know. But your ideas hadn't occurred to me. So does it cost much to switch vocations?
 
Found this piece of Capcoms DA site

http://www.capcom.co.jp/DD-DA/new.html

And it sounds like to use the new skills you have to find a piece of BBI jewelry that has the enhanced level of the skill on it. Then you just use the appropriate skill and - there you have it - enhanced back kick or whatever...

Kind of disappointing if thats the extent of it. And i really really really hope it's just for 2 skills per class.

I think you can get a maximum of 4 skills to lvl.3 -- there's Rings, which only augment one skill; and Bands, that augment two -- my Fighter Pawn has 3 skills at lvl.3 right now. I just need to get one for my-Magick-Archer-self that augments any combination of: Sixfold Shot, Ricochet Hunter, and Hunter Bolt... I'd be unstoppable.

You can't choose which skill(s) to augment, though; so you might get one for skills you don't use. I got a Magick Archer Band for Magical Gleam (HUGE radius on the light) and Explosive Bolts (which is very powerful).

I don't know if there's Rings/Bands for every skill/combo, I hope there is but it'd take forever to get them all. Wish you could buy them.

Ranger is a good class for him, tenfold shot with light arrows do decent damage.

Maybe you already saw in the thread, but the bad news is the second time you beat him,
he transforms into a much more powerful version with just as much health and way more defense and totally different attacks. I still haven't tried to fight him again, he just wrecked me.

Magick Archer, Hunter Bolt, and a shitload of Liquid Vims. If you get right in front of him, charge Hunter Bolt and hit him right in his chestface with most of the bolts, you can stunlock him infinitely as long as you can replenish/Vim your stamina. You'll do noticeable damage to him by default, since Hunter Bolt is Holy; but when a pawn boons you with Holy, you do almost double damage.

Or, instead of stunlocking him the whole time; you can only do it until he's below half health, then stop, and he should try to do his super Riftportal attack. Hit him with Sixfold Shots during that to knock him out of it and he will falls to his knees, open for a lot of damage. He kinda leans back during that, so go behind and Hunter/Sixfold his little head, or climb onto it and slash his shit up.
 
Spring Water at any Healing Spring in Gransys. The closest one is north-west of Gran Soren. Past the bridge but before Hillfigure Knoll.

You will need to buy Empty Flasks which are from the item shop vendor beside Caxton in Gran Soren. She also sells Large Mushrooms.

What about the spring that's in the rest area before you go down to fight the
Giant Beholder
? Does that work as well?
 

drbond

Neo Member
Finally picked up the xbox version of Dogma DA (double dipped on the PS3 version also), and have continued on my hard mode playthrough.

Level 190 and about 6-7 floors down in the Isle dungeon (hard mode). Good lord is it brutally hard in here. Sheesh! I'm running dragonforged epics from online Ur Dragon & Everfall, and it isnt enough to prevent a 1/2-shot death from a clothesline, flying drop kick, or axe handle. Hard-mode WWE wrasslin' style craziness.

UR Dragon online version in vanilla DD, was easy compared to this nonsense. Whenever a mid-boss is randomly spawned, I wanna run away...but I can't because of my insatiable lust for epic Dragon's Dogma loot.

Also...is it just me, or did most people pick up DD DA for PS3? I have yet to see many pawns with gear from the Isle in the xbox 360 rift area (stuff like the unicorn helm, lion belt, and that crazy-huge 'Adept' wizard hat; which looks like Capcom ripped off from Dragon Crown's Sorceress class).
 
my Fighter Pawn has 3 skills at lvl.3 right now.
Do you have the upgrade for Dragon Maw? I'm curious to know if such a think exists. If it does, holy shit I want it.

Thanks for the tips on Daimon, but my magic stat is pretty low so I think ranger will be a better fit than Magic Archer. I'm going to hopefully use that same strategy and stun lock him, like you said
 

BeeDog

Member
Bought Dark Arisen and started playing yesterday. Had forgotten that the only save I had was a clear save from my second run in the vanilla game, so booting up Dark Arisen, I start from the absolute beginning in Cassardis.

I have two questions:

1) How do I actually get to the new area?
2) What's the earliest point when (1) is possible to do?
 

RIK

Neo Member
Bought Dark Arisen and started playing yesterday. Had forgotten that the only save I had was a clear save from my second run in the vanilla game, so booting up Dark Arisen, I start from the absolute beginning in Cassardis.

I have two questions:

1) How do I actually get to the new area?
2) What's the earliest point when (1) is possible to do?

Can't miss, the game hints it.
Earliest point would be when you are able to recruit pawns, but i would make the trip to gran soren first, because that unlocks fast travel.
 

Skirn

Member
So, I've read that the best Pawn Inclination for a supportive Mage Pawn is Utilitarian. Does anyone have a roadmap to reach Utilitarian when you get to answer the questions? I tried to get it yesterday, but my main Pawn got Medicant instead, which is pretty bad according to random forum posts.

...and damn, Hard Mode really is HARD. I get one-shotted by just about everything, but I already have 100k of gold in my pockets, so there's that. Loving this game so far, despite the shitty performance on PS3.
 

Eusis

Member
So, I've read that the best Pawn Inclination for a supportive Mage Pawn is Utilitarian. Does anyone have a roadmap to reach Utilitarian when you get to answer the questions? I tried to get it yesterday, but my main Pawn got Medicant instead, which is pretty bad according to random forum posts.
- Go to Encampment

- Buy inclination potions from guy by rift stone (you pay in RC.)

I couldn't even begin to figure out the best path for answering questions.
 
Bleah. I'm sick of doing piss-poor damage.

I need better weapons, but I'm not interested in running BBI for the low chance at a sweet weapon.

Really, I'm not feeling this expansion. Some of the enemy combinations are absurd, as in zero play-testing was done. Daimon 2.0 also seriously did not need a massive defense boost.

Only spell that really works anymore is fulmination.
 

edgefusion

Member
Can't miss, the game hints it.
Earliest point would be when you are able to recruit pawns, but i would make the trip to gran soren first, because that unlocks fast travel.

I already got to Gran Soren and still don't know where the new stuff is... :(
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
Daimon in exactly 10 minutes. 3 wakestones. He's a punk.

Assassin all day babay.

And all the fresh let he gave me was hardcore high end mystic knight stuff. I feel robbed.

Can someone real quick repost that list of what's behind all the moonbeam doors? I want that fire bow.

Victory pics to come shortly.
 

burgerdog

Member
Daimon in exactly 10 minutes. 3 wakestones. He's a punk.

Assassin all day babay.

And all the fresh let he gave me was hardcore high end mystic knight stuff. I feel robbed.

Can someone real quick repost that list of what's behind all the moonbeam doors? I want that fire bow.

Victory pics to come shortly.

Impressive if it was against Daimon 2.0, five minutes too slow if it was against his 1.0 form!
 

Soodanim

Member
I don't know how pawns around my level have all of these decent weapons and sets of gear, and my character and pawn have basic stuff. I've found 2 or 3 pieces of equipment and it's all been basic stuff.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Bleah. I'm sick of doing piss-poor damage.

I need better weapons, but I'm not interested in running BBI for the low chance at a sweet weapon.

Really, I'm not feeling this expansion. Some of the enemy combinations are absurd, as in zero play-testing was done. Daimon 2.0 also seriously did not need a massive defense boost.

Only spell that really works anymore is fulmination.

Sounds like you're under-geared or are not using Affinity spells with Light attack.

Daimon in exactly 10 minutes. 3 wakestones. He's a punk.

Assassin all day babay.

And all the fresh let he gave me was hardcore high end mystic knight stuff. I feel robbed.

Can someone real quick repost that list of what's behind all the moonbeam doors? I want that fire bow.

Victory pics to come shortly.

I got the fire bow (Dragon's Ire) from the left door here:

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Sanctuary

Member
Thanks, man. I was beginning to think that I'd have to restart.

If you're going for a Primary and a Secondary, make sure you use the potions of what you want to be the Secondary first. What happens is after you set your Primary, when you start drinking other inclincation potions, it bumps your Primary to your Secondary. So say you wanted Utilitarian/Mitigator; drink 5 Mitigator potions and then drink 7 (*just to keep it as a priority for a bit longer since inclinations can degrade over time) Utilitarian.
 
Is there any point to the Strider ability of Pilfer/Master Thief? I picked it just to mess around with it and the only interesting thing to happen so far was that I got a set of Silk Lingerie off an Ogre. Can it actually get you some decent drops? Trying to get enemies (particularly stronger ones) into a state where you can successfully steal from them is a major pain in the arse.
 
I'm not feeling the game yet. I've had a lot of instances where I enter a dungeon of sorts and everything goes fine, then suddenly superstrong enemy kills me in three hits and I'm back at the inn, 30 minutes wasted.

This has happened during
the quest where you have to go into the well, fight a few rats, suddenly endless walking fish dudes kill me, a part on the eastern overworld where I was overrun by bandits, leader kills everyone in one hit,
and
just now, during the lure of the abyss everfall mission. I'm doing okay as long as my mage lights my sword on fire, but after some 15 minutes of dungeon crawling an orge of sorts appears on the stairs... and kills me. I can't even do anything to it, it has so much HP. Last checkpoint is all the way back at the beginning of the dungeon -_-

I wonder if I'm playing the game wrong. It looks like I'm not strong enough for the main quest, but sidequests get me killed off just as well. The pawns I have with me are around my level. I noticed they don't seem to level up, so are you supposed to keep changing pawns? Besides your main pawn, I mean.

It's frustrating because I don't feel it is my own error (as it would be in Dark Souls), just that the game throws these roadblocks at you that you can only overcome by levelling. Surely that can't be it though, right?

Maybe it wouldn't be so frustratring itf the quests were color coded or something to let you know you're not high level enough.
 

Ala Alba

Member
I'm not feeling the game yet. I've had a lot of instances where I enter a dungeon of sorts and everything goes fine, then suddenly superstrong enemy kills me in three hits and I'm back at the inn, 30 minutes wasted.

This has happened during
the quest where you have to go into the well, fight a few rats, suddenly endless walking fish dudes kill me, a part on the eastern overworld where I was overrun by bandits, leader kills everyone in one hit,
and
just now, during the lure of the abyss everfall mission. I'm doing okay as long as my mage lights my sword on fire, but after some 15 minutes of dungeon crawling an orge of sorts appears on the stairs... and kills me. I can't even do anything to it, it has so much HP. Last checkpoint is all the way back at the beginning of the dungeon -_-

I wonder if I'm playing the game wrong. It looks like I'm not strong enough for the main quest, but sidequests get me killed off just as well. The pawns I have with me are around my level. I noticed they don't seem to level up, so are you supposed to keep changing pawns? Besides your main pawn, I mean.

It's frustrating because I don't feel it is my own error (as it would be in Dark Souls), just that the game throws these roadblocks at you that you can only overcome by levelling. Surely that can't be it though, right?

Maybe it wouldn't be so frustratring itf the quests were color coded or something to let you know you're not high level enough.

First of all, manually save. All the time.

Secondly, you are supposed to change out the extra pawns as often as necessary. They are static and will never get stronger while they're with you.

Third, if I could survive escorting that stupid (but resilient!) merchant to the Greatwall immediately upon reaching Gran Soren, I'd say player skill can probably do a lot to make up for weakness (though fights can take frustratingly long at times).
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Hell yes, just got home from a weekend over at my parents and I found Dark Arisen in the mailbox waiting for me.

Let's goooo!
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
What level should I be approximately before tackling Dark Arisen stuff?
 

Hasemo

(;・∀・)ハッ?
Main story rushed through. Sadly I'm only 43, so it's too early for BBI... Guess I'll have to do some exploring and grinding first.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
So about what level / how much strength and magick do you guys have as you're approaching The Dragon boss fight? I'm literally a quest away from it and I'm only 46 with 3 vocations leveled up all the way and like ~650 strength and 360 magick.

I don't feel like I've really found much loot though other than a couple of weapons that were pretty good.

Also is good jewelry supposed to be impossible to find?
 

Trigger

Member
So about what level / how much strength and magick do you guys have as you're approaching The Dragon boss fight? I'm literally a quest away from it and I'm only 46 with 3 vocations leveled up all the way and like ~650 strength and 360 magick.

I don't feel like I've really found much loot though other than a couple of weapons that were pretty good.

Also is good jewelry supposed to be impossible to find?

I think I was level 50 the first time I did it. Bring lots of healing items and you should be fine IMO. Skill is the big determinate in how easy most fights are.

RE the bolded: Yeah, good jewelry is pretty rare. Main equipment is usually more important anyway.
 

GorillaJu

Member
Gave Daimon 2nd form a shot and my god, his defense is brutal. I can't seem to put a dent in him, but when my pawn climbs on board and starts ripping him apart, his life drops at a good speed. My pawn is so much stronger than I am - shame she's a fucking idiot.
 
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