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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness

Rockandrollclown

lookwhatyou'vedone
Sorry if it's been answered a million times, on 360 does anyone know how much space is required for us texture install? And does it make a huge difference?
 
Near the end of main story spoiler questions so I'll spoiler tag it all

I went to the great wall, beat the two wights (they had like no hp and I didn't get to pick up their drops cos the cutscene started..) , then the dragon showed up, crushed the cultist and talked to me.
But there was no affinity cutscene? Nothing? I thought this is supposed to be when it shows up?

I had 4 npcs with maxed affinity btw... but there was nothing? Is this normal ?:\

My next quest is to go to the dragonforged and then the final battle.
 
Near the end of main story spoiler questions so I'll spoiler tag it all

I went to the great wall, beat the two wights (they had like no hp and I didn't get to pick up their drops cos the cutscene started..) , then the dragon showed up, crushed the cultist and talked to me.
But there was no affinity cutscene? Nothing? I thought this is supposed to be when it shows up?

I had 4 npcs with maxed affinity btw... but there was nothing? Is this normal ?:\

My next quest is to go to the dragonforged and then the final battle.

What you asked happens during the final battle.
 

Dreamer RD

Member
Finished on normal for the first time. Pretty good game with awful quest system.
There is no way to change main character appearance? Should have created some ugly shit if I knew that it's visible in cutscenes.
 

Kyoufu

Member
I like the quest system. Crafted in such a way that promotes multiple playthroughs (because NG+ is done really well here) and of course, further fuels the community aspect.
 

phierce

Member
Finished on normal for the first time. Pretty good game with awful quest system.
There is no way to change main character appearance? Should have created some ugly shit if I knew that it's visible in cutscenes.
You can change appearance. Go to the encampment and buy Secret of Metamorphosis from Johnathan. You can change appearance of your character and main pawn unlimited times.
 

Eusis

Member
You can change appearance. Go to the encampment and buy Secret of Metamorphosis from Johnathan. You can change appearance of your character and main pawn unlimited times.
Not exactly, you get the Art of Metamorphosis at first which only works once, but in the post game you can get Secret of Metamorphosis that works an unlimited number of times.

And far as I can tell it's like in Saints Row: complete character recreation. I may need to use it sometime just to fix the shitty mouth on my main character, though I'm also throwing around the idea of sort of "swapping" my MC and pawn for NG+.
 
Yeah, you done goofed.

He gives the quest "Chasing Shadows" if you didn't goof. Completing Chasing Shadows then unlocks Madeleine's Shop, which then opens up another quest etc.

But I did that quest before the cult quest, and her shop is open. So, considering that, does he offer anything else in addition to that?
 

Kyoufu

Member
But I did that quest before the cult quest, and her shop is open. So, considering that, does he offer anything else in addition to that?

You should be fine then,

What a weird game lol. For me, over several playthroughs, Mason only offered Chasing Shadows after Seeking Salvation.

Did you escort Madeleine to the Encampment before you arrived at Gran Soren?
 

Sera O

Banned
And far as I can tell it's like in Saints Row: complete character recreation. I may need to use it sometime just to fix the shitty mouth on my main character, though I'm also throwing around the idea of sort of "swapping" my MC and pawn for NG+.

I am planning to do a swap for NG+ too. Kind of torn on whether to explore BBI more now or just start NG+ and save BBI for that run to keep things interesting. There isn't an option to reset level for NG+, right?

I always wish there were separate tickboxes for things carrying over. It would be great if there were yes/no options for money, inventory, vocation level, and character level so you could opt not to completely steamroll everything.
 
I like the quest system. Crafted in such a way that promotes multiple playthroughs (because NG+ is done really well here) and of course, further fuels the community aspect.

I hate it.

IMO, a quest structure with multiple exclusive paths and player choices that have real consequences promotes multiple playthroughs. DD just cancels your quests on a whim and immediately hard saves as a way of saying "fuck you", or just hides them in remote locales or ridiculously slim time frames. I adore DD, but it's quest structure is easily it's greatest flaw in my opinion. I'm glad the combat is fun and varied enough to warrant multiple playthroughs, because the quests do nothing for me but make me want to play with a wiki.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I hate it.

IMO, a quest structure with multiple exclusive paths and player choices that have real consequences promotes multiple playthroughs. DD just cancels your quests on a whim and immediately hard saves as a way of saying "fuck you", or just hides them in remote locales or ridiculously slim time frames. I adore DD, but it's quest structure is easily it's greatest flaw in my opinion. I'm glad the combat is fun and varied enough to warrant multiple playthroughs, because the quests do nothing for me but make me want to play with a wiki.

If you're a completionist or a trophy hunter (I'm both), it is indeed a very obtuse system. On the other hand, nothing is truly missable, and the world is so enjoyable to explore that I don't mind going to out of way places to see if there's something waiting for me. Like I said in an earlier post, the game has an open world feel.

But there's definitely dumb shit like go back to Cassardis exactly at this point and only after having done this or else the specific quest won't be there and you can't help but be like..yeah..this is some Demon's Souls wiki type shit (which I actually do like, but only when I'm a part of the discovery, not this late into the release). While I've tried my best not to spoil locations and objectives, I've had a list to reference to check when certain quests become unobtainable. I'm somewhat playing my first playthrough loosely, but just from reading this thread I've had fun stuff spoiled like the female bandit camp or being able to forge quest items..small shit..but also stuff I'm not sure I would have been able to figure out on my own unless the game gave me a nudge.
 

phierce

Member
Not exactly, you get the Art of Metamorphosis at first which only works once, but in the post game you can get Secret of Metamorphosis that works an unlimited number of times.

And far as I can tell it's like in Saints Row: complete character recreation. I may need to use it sometime just to fix the shitty mouth on my main character, though I'm also throwing around the idea of sort of "swapping" my MC and pawn for NG+.
Oh yeah...forgot it's only available post-game. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Wow what the fuck at the final battle ending (idk if there's more after this)

Big spoilers kind of:
If you had affinity with the innkeeper or some random shitty npc this would be really fucking stupid.
I really like the twist with the duke being a coward and the perspective on why he tried to strangle his new wife though , very nice touch as well if you sacrifice the damsel , sitting on the throne all alone and getting the credits and a merciful retry option.

After the story ending what do you suggest I do next? Keep questing? Are there a lot of optional vanilla bosses and cool quests left? I'd rather see all the cool stuff from vanilla before doing BBI.


Fighting the final boss and he is terrifying, wow.

Random question: that deepdown trailer for ps4 was from capcom right? Is it the dragon's dogma people who made that?
If so I have a reason (one single lonely reason) to want a console next gen.
 

RangerBAD

Member
Wow what the fuck at the final battle ending (idk if there's more after this)

Big spoilers kind of:
If you had affinity with the innkeeper or some random shitty npc this would be really fucking stupid.
I really like the twist with the duke being a coward and the perspective on why he tried to strangle his new wife though , very nice touch as well if you sacrifice the damsel , sitting on the throne all alone and getting the credits and a merciful retry option.

After the story ending what do you suggest I do next? Keep questing? Are there a lot of optional vanilla bosses and cool quests left? I'd rather see all the cool stuff from vanilla before doing BBI.

You beat the game and
Everfall
opened up or NG+?
 

Eusis

Member
Oh yeah...forgot it's only available post-game. Thanks for clearing that up.
Even without the angle of fixing a design you don't like it could be worth it just so you can freely mess with character creation so long as you back out and never save your changes.
 

Kyoufu

Member
I hate it.

IMO, a quest structure with multiple exclusive paths and player choices that have real consequences promotes multiple playthroughs. DD just cancels your quests on a whim and immediately hard saves as a way of saying "fuck you", or just hides them in remote locales or ridiculously slim time frames. I adore DD, but it's quest structure is easily it's greatest flaw in my opinion. I'm glad the combat is fun and varied enough to warrant multiple playthroughs, because the quests do nothing for me but make me want to play with a wiki.

Yeah I understand. Personally I have a hard-on for games that involves communicating with the community.

One way to fix it could be to get rid of the 7 or so quest stages and just allow you to do everything until that point of no return near the end.
 

maomaoIYP

Member
I'm trying to hunt for the following in BBI with no success, I don't even know if they're lv 1 or lv 2 armor, does anyone have the following? And pics if possible?

Persecutor's Mask
Tormenter's Mask

Traveler's Hood
Traveler's Vest

Assault Boots
Crested Armguards
Blessed Sleeves
Novice's Coat
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Does anyone play Mystic Knight at high level? Is it viable as a tank?
 

Grisby

Member
Why does Barroch keep disappearing? How do I get him to come back?
He should always be in the "safe rooms" like warriors rest and such. I believe there are only two. He disappears from time to time in all other places. Try stepping though the door and coming back or completing a few more rooms before trying the area again.
 

GorillaJu

Member
I'm trying to hunt for the following in BBI with no success, I don't even know if they're lv 1 or lv 2 armor, does anyone have the following? And pics if possible?

Persecutor's Mask
Tormenter's Mask

Traveler's Hood
Traveler's Vest

Assault Boots
Crested Armguards
Blessed Sleeves
Novice's Coat

I have all of those except the Traveler's items. The only ones I got recently enough to remember are the Crested Armguards which are level 2.

None of those items look particularly cool except the two masks (I think the Tormentor's mask is a Eliminator helmet)
 

kaiju

Member
So glad this game is finally getting the attention it deserves.

I hate it.

IMO, a quest structure with multiple exclusive paths and player choices that have real consequences promotes multiple playthroughs. DD just cancels your quests on a whim and immediately hard saves as a way of saying "fuck you", or just hides them in remote locales or ridiculously slim time frames. I adore DD, but it's quest structure is easily it's greatest flaw in my opinion. I'm glad the combat is fun and varied enough to warrant multiple playthroughs, because the quests do nothing for me but make me want to play with a wiki.

Have you ever tried the reset trick? Anytime my quests fail I just exit out of the game via the start menu and then choose the "quit the game without saving" option. I then load the game and it will continue from my last save point before the fail. I've yet to lose any quests this way, even when it began to save immediately after the fail alert.
 

bon

Member
Hey, is it safe to download the update, or is that save corruption thing still going on? (I'm still playing the original DD, not Dark Arisen.)
 
Okay what is this stupid item that looks like an airtight flask but isn't an airtight flask? I need it for like EVERY upgrade. It's taunting me. Airtight flasks are literally the only item I know of that has that icon.
 

maomaoIYP

Member
I have all of those except the Traveler's items. The only ones I got recently enough to remember are the Crested Armguards which are level 2.

None of those items look particularly cool except the two masks (I think the Tormentor's mask is a Eliminator helmet)

Great info, thanks. Btw what do the blessed sleeves look like? My OCD nature is driving me nuts trying to collect them all.
 

Eusis

Member
Okay what is this stupid item that looks like an airtight flask but isn't an airtight flask? I need it for like EVERY upgrade. It's taunting me. Airtight flasks are literally the only item I know of that has that icon.
I think it's jus tmeant to be representing a random mystery item, I know one item requires Great Dragon Horns and they sure as hell don't have the Airtight Flask symbol.

Oh yeah, maybe this was just from randoms, but at least one of two people gave me eve better daggers for my Ranger and a level 3 cursed weapon that turned out to be an awesome bow, and if you post/read here then thanks! Though if I'm guessing right and they're the lowest Online IDs on the "pawns my main pawn knows" then they're not from here.
 

Skilletor

Member
So I beat the dragon.

Holy shit at what happens after.

This is definitely one of my top 3 games of the generation.

For a sequel all I want are:

More monsters
More classes
more skills

but by far most important:

A fuckton more of unique looking areas.



After beating the dragon spoilers:

I wish I would've known everything I had was going to get dragonforged :/ Would've looked for better stuff.

LOL

I leave Cassardis and get fucking MOLLYWHOPPED by the first things I run into?

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG THIS GAME IS AMAZING!
 
So I beat the dragon.

Holy shit at what happens after.

This is definitely one of my top 3 games of the generation.

For a sequel all I want are:

More monsters
More classes
more skills

but by far most important:

A fuckton more of unique looking areas.



After beating the dragon spoilers:

I wish I would've known everything I had was going to get dragonforged :/ Would've looked for better stuff.

LOL

I leave Cassardis and get fucking MOLLYWHOPPED by the first things I run into?

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG THIS GAME IS AMAZING!


Also, the game is amazingly well balanced on normal mode for the first segment of the game, but then it turns into herp-a-derp idiot proof easy once you hit like level 25. If they can maintain that brilliant level of fair - but challenging difficulty they introduced early on, it'll be golden. The game lends itself so well to high level of challenges the same way the Demon/Dark Souls game do.
 
Also, the game is amazingly well balanced on normal mode for the first segment of the game, but then it turns into herp-a-derp idiot proof easy once you hit like level 25. If they can maintain that brilliant level of fair - but challenging difficulty they introduced early on, it'll be golden. The game lends itself so well to high level of challenges the same way the Demon/Dark Souls game do.

I've been playing on hard and skipped side quests through the main game and it didn't get easy at any point. It was a pretty great playthrough
 

Dreamer RD

Member
You can change appearance. Go to the encampment and buy Secret of Metamorphosis from Johnathan. You can change appearance of your character and main pawn unlimited times.

Nice, gonna try.

So I beat the dragon.

I leave Cassardis and get fucking MOLLYWHOPPED by the first things I run into?

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG THIS GAME IS AMAZING!

Same here. I was raped by a pack of fucking wolves near gran soren haha. Then decided to check out that Bitter-whatever island and some tentacle shaped monster from treasure chest killed me. Really need advice on what to do next.
Also, about environment change - is it permanent? Liked beautiful locations. Now it's so dark and bad looking.
 
Just got it today. I played through a single playthrough of the first game before my PS3 pooped on me and I had to sell the game in order to get another sony system. I thought I could stroll on in ol' BitterBitch with a fresh character but she had other plans for me.

First with with the hounds and I used a ferrystone to get back to Gransys.
 

Corsick

Member
I have a question about new game plus and Bitter Black. If I'm at the end of BBL but haven't beaten it, will finishing the quest to start NG+ reset my progression with BBL?

By the way I just switched to MK and Dragon's Presence (was using Dragon's Bite as a warrior) is doing absolute work for me, being able to jump on bosses and attack super fast makes some of them a joke. Couldn't do that nearly as fast as with my warrior. The damage and attack speed combination is really really awesome. This is without even using magic cannon once.
 

haikira

Member
I need help Gaf. First time player and i'm only a few hours in. Having a blast with the game. Decided to go with Mystic Knight, as it sounded like my cup of tea. Though I feel like I don't really know what i'm doing.

Should i be using sword or staff, or is it really up to the situation? How does the magic shield stuff work? What are the must buy spells early on?

If there's any other random advice anyone has for me, i'd be grateful. Thanks in advance.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
I need help Gaf. First time player and i'm only a few hours in. Having a blast with the game. Decided to go with Mystic Knight, as it sounded like my cup of tea. Though I feel like I don't really know what i'm doing.

Should i be using sword or staff, or is it really up to the situation? How does the magic shield stuff work? What are the must buy spells early on?

If there's any other random advice anyone has for me, i'd be grateful. Thanks in advance.

Mystic Knight is awesome but it doesn't come into full fruition till at least vocation rank 7 or so. The magic shield is a bit of a mystery since if you read a few pages back it isn't clear if it contributes directly to spell casting, but basically the magic shield is how you cast your buffs. The class can be played by either, I personally only sitck with swords because I think it is more fun.

Once you have magick cannon you can enchant your sword using one of your own buffs and cast the cannon with that element and go nuts on it shooting lasers, you can stack cannons ontop of each other (2 or 3 is best) and use an attack like full moon slash to hit it multiple times for fire works of doom.

So really the way mystic knight works I would say is: You have to set up with buffs and then go all out. You can play a little tanky due to the shield and the perfect block system plus a shield enchantment to do some great damage too.

As it is MK I believe benefits from both magick and strength (lean more towards strength but magick helps your buffs and benefits magick cannon as well) unless you're going for a staff MK which only benefits from magick.

It's an interesting class and has a lot to offer it is easily my favorite and I am probably not typing out a very good explanation and I am sure some one will come in and correct me but I hope you get an idea!
 

Anteater

Member
Also, the game is amazingly well balanced on normal mode for the first segment of the game, but then it turns into herp-a-derp idiot proof easy once you hit like level 25. If they can maintain that brilliant level of fair - but challenging difficulty they introduced early on, it'll be golden. The game lends itself so well to high level of challenges the same way the Demon/Dark Souls game do.

yea, the level range the entire map was pretty much within the lvl30 range, they should've slowed down the leveling and speed up vocation ranks, it almost felt like they didn't expect the player to do all the sidequests/board quests, so if you go through the game doing everything it tossed at you, you outlevel everything extremely fast.

but
post game should kick the difficulty back up a notch though
, and then there's bitter black isle.
 

haikira

Member
Mystic Knight is awesome but it doesn't come into full fruition till at least vocation rank 7 or so. The magic shield is a bit of a mystery since if you read a few pages back it isn't clear if it contributes directly to spell casting, but basically the magic shield is how you cast your buffs. The class can be played by either, I personally only sitck with swords because I think it is more fun.

Once you have magick cannon you can enchant your sword using one of your own buffs and cast the cannon with that element and go nuts on it shooting lasers, you can stack cannons ontop of each other (2 or 3 is best) and use an attack like full moon slash to hit it multiple times for fire works of doom.

So really the way mystic knight works I would say is: You have to set up with buffs and then go all out. You can play a little tanky due to the shield and the perfect block system plus a shield enchantment to do some great damage too.

As it is MK I believe benefits from both magick and strength (lean more towards strength but magick helps your buffs and benefits magick cannon as well) unless you're going for a staff MK which only benefits from magick.

It's an interesting class and has a lot to offer it is easily my favorite and I am probably not typing out a very good explanation and I am sure some one will come in and correct me but I hope you get an idea!

Thanks for the detailed response. Think i have a much better understanding now.

EDIT: Also, thanks to B.A.L.
 

kaiju

Member
I need help Gaf. First time player and i'm only a few hours in. Having a blast with the game. Decided to go with Mystic Knight, as it sounded like my cup of tea. Though I feel like I don't really know what i'm doing.

Should i be using sword or staff, or is it really up to the situation? How does the magic shield stuff work? What are the must buy spells early on?

If there's any other random advice anyone has for me, i'd be grateful. Thanks in advance.

I'm rolling with an MK as well. Only Lvl 35 atm (lost save from original DD) but having a blast. I go with sword/shield but also keep a staff as a backup option on big fights. Level up your sword skills and when you get access to the Cannon skills, use them. For the shield I've mainly been using chants. Load up Holy Enchanter and just lay waste to undead, etc.

And the staff can come in handy when you're fighting ogres, cyclops, etc. You can just stand back and unleash havoc (High Levin, Brontide), and the poor beastie will never see it comin'. Fun as hell.
 

Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
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Average day for a pawn.
 

Dreamer RD

Member
Remains that way till you start a NG+. Combined with Bitterblacke Isle, you're in for some lengthy, gloomy hours.

In the over world, yes. It stays like that throughout post-game. If you start NG+ it'll go back to normal, of course.

What exactly is New Game Plus? Wiki says "Choosing this option (load your save game from when you complete the game after the "real" credits and it will start New Game Plus"

So, I loaded save and it's still after dragon slaying events. How to start a new game with all items, levels etc from previous walkthrough?
 
What exactly is New Game Plus? Wiki says "Choosing this option (load your save game from when you complete the game after the "real" credits and it will start New Game Plus"

So, I loaded save and it's still after dragon slaying events. How to start a new game with all items, levels etc from previous walkthrough?

You haven't completed the game yet.
 
What exactly is New Game Plus? Wiki says "Choosing this option (load your save game from when you complete the game after the "real" credits and it will start New Game Plus"

So, I loaded save and it's still after dragon slaying events. How to start a new game with all items, levels etc from previous walkthrough?

Postgame is kind of misleading, it should be called postdragon, as the game isn't over yet. That isn't NG+.

After felling The Dragon, you can get a quest titled "Fathom Deep." Doing what is required of this quest and speaking with the quest giver will start the point-of-no-return to the true endgame.

After completing that, you see the full credits; it autosaves after they're done and once back at the main menu, select "Load Game" to start anew with all of your gear/items/levels.
 

Dreamer RD

Member
Postgame is kind of misleading, it should be called postdragon, as the game isn't over yet. That isn't NG+.

After felling The Dragon, you can get a quest titled "Fathom Deep." Doing what is required of this quest and speaking with the quest giver will start the point-of-no-return to the true endgame.

After completing that, you see the full credits; it autosaves after they're done and once back at the main menu, select "Load Game" to start anew with all of your gear/items/levels.

I see, thanks. Gonna be pain in the ass with that everfall quest. Some flying eye with tentacles keeps destroying my party.
 
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