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[Nester99]

Jesus Christ, the level of ass kissing.

I am sorry, but people don't take kindly a grown man texting to a kid that is not his. There was no reason for him to text that person. The guy is loaded. He could have spent money on OF, escorts or Instagram models.

He did not "TEXT" anyone. He communicated with a follower via TWITCH Whisper.
Some people say it was in reference to a business deal (in the email we don't know is true or not)

He is a video game streamer, Video games are for children... and the occasional 40 year old man child. Of course minors will be involved with him in some way.
What's next, SHOCK that FORNITE has kids playing it ?

You seem emotionally invested in this, its not healthy.

 

[clarky]

Co-workers are never your friend.

Off topic, but thats just not true. Could be in your line of work, but not in mine.

 

[StueyDuck]

Again, the problem is texting a minor.
His lawyers could argue that he didn't send explicit images, which makes his ban unfair. So they can win the case that way.

But to the public, texting a minor is a no no.

but show me where I have stated that I think it's fine that he inappropriately messages a minor.

you insinuated that I am ok with it.

my stance is deciding whether what he is receiving as punishment now is adequate or not, and does he deserve actual jail time, but without anything more to go on other than his statement, I just can't come to a conclusion (which has been the entire crux of my stance since the first message). I have always said that the inappropriate messaging wasn't good, but in order for me to fully comprehend the scenario and to decide what sort of punishment the guy deserves I'd need to have more context.

This thread has largely devolved into torch bearers and pitchfork wielders who are calling anyone who isn't ready to tie the noose a paedo, which is really a hectic argument to make considering I haven't seen a single person in here say that what he did was ok. (I've literally been accused of being so myself by someone earlier, you can just go back a few pages to see)

Since this is the case I'm largely gonna bounce from this topic, there's no discussion to be had and bad actors willing to label others in bad faith.

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[funking giblet]

ITT: Terminal "Anti-woke" peeps tripping over themselves for a pedo who said "anti-woke" things.

 

[Thyuda]

but show me where I have stated that I think it's fine that he inappropriately messages a minor.

you insinuated that I am ok with it.

my stance is deciding whether what he is receiving as punishment now is adequate or not, and does he deserve actual jail time, but without anything more to go on other than his statement, I just can't come to a conclusion (which has been the entire crux of my stance since the first message). I have always said that the inappropriate messaging wasn't good, but in order for me to fully comprehend the scenario and to decide what sort of punishment the guy deserves I'd need to have more context.

This thread has largely devolved into torch bearers and pitchfork wielders who are calling anyone who isn't ready to tie the noose a paedo, which is really a hectic argument to make considering I haven't seen a single person in here say that what he did was ok. (I've literally been accused of being so myself by someone earlier, you can just go back a few pages to see)

Since this is the case I'm largely gonna bounce from this topic, there's no discussion to be had and bad actors willing to label others in bad faith.

Gonna do the same.

Let them have their echo chambers, they clearly made up their mind and nothing is going to get inbetween the peuple and their witch.

 

[feynoob]

but show me where I have stated that I think it's fine that he inappropriately messages a minor.

you insinuated that I am ok with it.

my stance is deciding whether what he is receiving as punishment now is adequate or not, and does he deserve actual jail time, but without anything more to go on other than his statement, I just can't come to a conclusion (which has been the entire crux of my stance since the first message). I have always said that the inappropriate messaging wasn't good, but in order for me to fully comprehend the scenario and to decide what sort of punishment the guy deserves I'd need to have more context.

This thread has largely devolved into torch bearers and pitchfork wielders who are calling anyone who isn't ready to tie the noose a paedo, which is really a hectic argument to make considering I haven't seen a single person in here say that what he did was ok. (I've literally been accused of being so myself by someone earlier, you can just go back a few pages to see)

Since this is the case I'm largely gonna bounce from this topic, there's no discussion to be had and bad actors willing to label others in bad faith.

He won't get jail time, but will get the public outrage.

His persona is done now with this incident.

 

[feynoob]

He did not "TEXT" anyone. He communicated with a follower via TWITCH Whisper.

That is called texting. It's like saying I didn't do apple FaceTime, but did Whatsapp video call.

He is a video game streamer, Video games are for children... and the occasional 40 year old man child. Of course minors will be involved with him in some way.
What's next, SHOCK that FORNITE has kids playing it ?

That doesn't cause to get banned from twitch. Don't feign ignorance.

You seem emotionally invested in this, its not healthy

Not the same as defending him.

So you value the court of public opinion more than the court of law.

Okay.

For fk sake. Court of law is garbage.
This is how much your court of law is worth it.


It's only there to punish poor people.

And as court of public opinion, well duh. What do you expect. When you are that much high profile, your actions would have more consequences. There is a reason why PR exist.

 

[feynoob]

We shouldn't be arguing over this shit.

YOU DONT SEND MESSAGES TO MINORS, PERIOD.

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

He's a pedo. I cant believe he would put his wife qnd kid trough this. Complete loser.

 

[INC]

We shouldn't be arguing over this shit.

YOU DONT SEND MESSAGES TO MINORS, PERIOD.

Not all minors have had a period

 

[pauljeremiah]

 

[feynoob]

Not all minors have had a period

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

We shouldn't be arguing over this shit.

YOU DONT SEND MESSAGES TO MINORS, PERIOD.

The amount of people defending him or trying to put a spin on it in his favor is mind numbing

 

[Moridianae]

This is, to me, one of the wildest threads I've ever read on NeoGAF.

What a Rollercoaster.

 

[Three]

The only other explanation I can see is that he can't say he didn't know due to his settlement with Twitch. If he didn't know, that would put the blame on them, since they are supposed to prevent minors from using direct message type services.

You can use it if you're over 13. AFAIK You aren't restricted from DMs on Twitch if you're under 18. Tiktok does 16 for example and Instagram prevents adults from messaging teens (or it's moderated maybe) but teens are still allowed to use DM services.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Technically pedophilia is all about sexual attraction to kids before puberty that don't have any sexual characteristics of grown people. It ends up around age of 13.

Pedophilia - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Between 14-18 it's all about girls that have sexual characteristics of grown ups but are super young/innocent. Most countries in Europe have age of consent around 15 (14 in Germany).

Very few men are actual pedophiles but I think majority of them (us) can end up having relationship with very young girl given the circumstances.

You don't break the laws but most societies will fucking hate you anyway and you still risk loosing your job and/or be fucked up by the group of local "dads". It's highly not recommend to have relationship with people younger than 18.

Bruh.

 

[feynoob]

Bruh.

Grooming in the act.

Just fuking date people in your age. I am 27, and I am afraid of dating 21 years old or younger. I don't want to get in to that mess.

25+ is what I want to date. More mature and have actual jobs to take care of themselves.

Internet is a mistake man with these takes.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Someone @ me when new news drops, there’s supposedly some journalists sitting on the chat logs or at least the moderation logs or something.

Thread is a boring rehash of the same arguments until then lol

 

[ajanke]

I need the chat logs. I gotta see how bad it is. Too many years reading offense reports has numbed me to this all.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Someone @ me when new news drops, there’s supposedly some journalists sitting on the chat logs or at least the moderation logs or something.

Thread is a boring rehash of the same arguments until then lol

Will do but I want those wifey pics ready

 

[londontko]

So you value the court of public opinion more than the court of law.

Okay.

That’s not at all what he said.

 

[ajanke]

Y'all wanna know something crazy? Not super relevant here but slightly related. One time when I was present at a sentencing this guy got sentenced to probation and had to register for life as a sex offender.

All because he hooked up with a minor that was 17. Who openly admitted to lying about their age and the chat logs backed it up. Isn’t that wild? Fkn ID errbody you date haha

 

[peek]

Just my cent, people ask "why are you guys defending him", but I only see 2 groups: people jumping the gun without any evidence on anything (even before the comments from him) and other folks saying like "wait for evidence before destroying someone's career". If even asking for evidence translates 1-1 to defending a pedophile then...

I think whenever this type of stuff comes up, something sensitive like this, if you bring ANY nuance to the conversation people will immediately get emotional and scream stop defending the perv, creep, etc.

Since I dont get care about that of that shit, im just gonna say it...

This entire thing all depends on if he knew the person he was messaging was under 18. If it turns out that he was messaging some chick and later found out afterwards... i do not give a fuck and no one should either.

However, if he knew from the start, or was told her age, (which btw we still dont the age) and continued to keep messaging in an inappropriate manner... nah bro is DONE.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

The woman cheater must really need it.

 

[tusharngf]

If this is true then i lost all respect for DOC. I have been following him since pubg days with shroud. Damn this looks really bad.

 

[londontko]

I need the chat logs. I gotta see how bad it is. Too many years reading offense reports has numbed me to this all.

We need the girls actual age and the chat logs to accurately determine what goof level we are at.

 

[FoxMcChief]

 

[Barakov]

This is probably why Twitch wanted the whole situation with the doc kept quiet. He probably wasn't the only one sending inappropriate DMs. If more than a few big time streamers were doing something like that would be a big revenue loss for them. It all comes down to money unfortunately.

 

[G-DannY]

probably the "he knew or not the age before" will be revealed sometime in the future, when all this nuclear blast of social emotional outrage and offense will settle

then the big guns will be drawn out

because as an old adagio says, bad publicity is still publicity

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

We need the girls actual age and the chat logs to accurately determine what goof level we are at.

Someone should try to find out who she is and dm her for her age.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Will do but I want those wifey pics ready

 

[G-DannY]

also, here the term "inappropriate" is the key

because it is, for example, inappropriate to fart in an elevator with other people inside (regardless their age).
? do an elevator fart like that grant a cancel mob?

 

[tusharngf]

This is probably why Twitch wanted the whole situation with the doc kept quiet. He probably wasn't the only one sending inappropriate DMs. If more than a few big time streamers were doing something like that would be a big revenue loss for them. It all comes down to money unfortunately.

Fuck twitch and reveal the big names. If they have done something illegal they should be punished.

 

[Kittehkraken]

Grooming in the act.

Just fuking date people in your age. I am 27, and I am afraid of dating 21 years old or younger. I don't want to get in to that mess.

25+ is what I want to date. More mature and have actual jobs to take care of themselves.

Internet is a mistake man with these takes.

35+ is where the real gems are. I'll like take some arthritis setting in if it means she doesn't know what Tik Tok is.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Will do but I want those wifey pics ready

I did start sexting her when she was 18, like a true gentleman in his 30s does.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I did start sexting her when she was 18, like a true gentleman in his 30s does.

Me too.

 

[Ozriel]

Twitch clearly had some internal investigation and nothing came of any of it.

‘Nothing came of it’? They terminated their biggest star’s contract.

And if twitch had found instances of crimes, they would most likely be legally obligated to turn that evidence over to authorities.

Most people aren’t accusing him of going as far as committing a crime. They’re accusing him of doing something distasteful and sending inappropriate chats with a minor.

That’s not enough for criminal prosecution.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I did start sexting her when she was 18, like a true gentleman in his 30s does.

Me too.

Welcome to the barely legal's club

 

[peek]

also, here the term "inappropriate" is the key

because it is, for example, inappropriate to fart in an elevator with other people inside (regardless their age).
? do an elevator fart like that grant a cancel mob?

Nah bro dont play that. If the doc HIMSELF is calling the messages inappropriate (or leaning to at least) it ABSOLUTELY is in the direction of something sexual.

Reason why? Anyone coming out with a statement like this will always try and paint their side of the story in the best possible light.

So if HE is saying that... then yeah, its no question.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

‘Nothing came of it’? They terminated their biggest star’s contract.



Most people aren’t accusing him of going as far as committing a crime. They’re accusing him of doing something distasteful and sending inappropriate chats with a minor.

That’s not enough for criminal prosecution.

Yeah I guess losing one of the biggest streamers wasn't a clue that "nothing came of it"

Oh but I forgot that email says people at Twitch were just out to get him

 

[Clintizzle]

Can he now pivot to stream what he is like while doing normal people jobs?

One of my favorite things to watch is these internet people actually going into real life situations being absolutely clueless.

 

[G-DannY]

Nah bro dont play that. If the doc HIMSELF is calling the messages inappropriate (or leaning to at least) it ABSOLUTELY is in the direction of something sexual.

Reason why? Anyone coming out with a statement like this will always try and paint their side of the story in the best possible light.

So if HE is saying that... then yeah, its no question.

I'm simply asking what is for the social virtuesignaling mob the red-line behavior that define something inappropriate enough

I like the doc but just as entertainment and I'm old enough to not feel attached to him in a positive or negative way

that said, i'pretty sure that 95% of individuals here ready to condemn him as the worst possibile human being on earth have done at least one time something as inappropriate in their lives... maybe not even thinking about it

 

[Mondai]

Lol goofy ass pedo defenders in this topic.

 

[peek]

I'm simply asking what is for the social virtuesignaling mob the red-line behavior that define something inappropriate enough

I like the doc but just as entertainment and I'm old enough to not feel attached to him in a positive or negative way

that said, i'pretty sure that 95% of individuals here ready to condemn him as the worst possibile human being on earth have done at least one time something as inappropriate in their lives... maybe not even thinking about it

Nah, bro, like I said stop it.

You trying to twist the word inappropriate to include shit like "farting in an elevator"...

Bro, stop being disingenuous. We ALL know when the doc himself is saying his messages were in the direction of inappropriate it absolutely means something sexual.

NOW, the question remains how sexual we talking. Obviously theres a spectrum. But we all know damn well what it means when he uses the word inappropriate.

 

[nush]

Have any receipts been posted yet?

 

[feynoob]

 

[H From Steps]

Lol goofy ass pedo defenders in this topic.

It’s crazy lol

 

[Griffon]

 

[FoxMcChief]

Omg, lol

The 1:30 mark, fucking gold, lol

 

[Ozriel]

I'm simply asking what is for the social virtuesignaling mob the red-line behavior that define something inappropriate enough

I like the doc but just as entertainment and I'm old enough to not feel attached to him in a positive or negative way

that said, i'pretty sure that 95% of individuals here ready to condemn him as the worst possibile human being on earth have done at least one time something as inappropriate in their lives... maybe not even thinking about it

You people trying to paint criticism of pedo behavior as ‘virtue signaling’…is everything OK?

Attempts to defend this guy with “I’ll bet many of you have done something just as bad” isn’t exactly painting you in great light too.