FLEABttn said:
It's not like GAF is CNN is is held to some standard of journalistic integrity; how bad GAF looks could harm it, but this isn't a case where GAF will be harmed. People love this shit.
As a Dyack supporter myself, I thought that the venom on the internet going back to Eternal Darkness was more or less uncalled for, but the Too Human shit really was over the line for him. Name dropping GAF as the worst forum ever as well as hyping his game to high heaven and back would have gotten him a tag of the century had it been the masterpiece. It wasn't, this is the price he pays for his actions. If he never said anything to begin with or if his game was good, he wouldn't even be in this situation.
Take a note from other developers on this forum, Dyack. Don't overly hype your games here, don't namedrop GAF in interviews about how horrible it is here, and don't whine here when shit doesn't go your way.
Well yeah, GAF obviously isn't the worst forum ever. It's just a very large one, and the larger the forum the louder their voice is. Unless he means "worst" as "most critical of Too Human", which well could be true, perhaps... but no, that's not really what he meant, I think, though it certainly influenced his thinking.
He does have a very good point that forums seem to breed negativity. You have to really try to avoid it to keep away from it getting too bad... I've certainly noticed that myself. With text it's just so easy to do, compared to, for instance, conversation! So the larger the forum, the worse the negativity? Perhaps, perhaps not... but either way, GAF isn't the worst forum ever. (For one thing, there are plenty of other gaming forums that are larger!) It's not the best, but it's not the worst either. And no, I don't know what the best or worst would be... there are far too many gaming forums out there to try to rank them all. But anyway...
A good part of his anger of it is surely just that he's angry that GAF has targeted his game. Would he be so angry about the negativity of gaming forums if they were targeting some other game instead of his own? The point would be just as true overall, but I think that he likely wouldn't be the one making it.
lawblob said:
Originally Posted by A Black Falcon:
Why? GAF is a private organization, it is legally similar to EviLore's house. If someone walked around your house all day insulting you to your face, you would eventually kick that person out the front door.
What, because banning people who disagree with you makes you look good? I'd say that it just makes you look like you don't like criticism.... Pretending that people who disagree with you don't exist is pretty much the opposite of solving the problem.
Perhaps you could say "the problem doesn't need to be solved, just let each group bash the other in peace and never let them speak", but how good is THAT really? It's not!
... Of course given the immaturity level of so much of the gaming fanbase (and many developers too) that's far too much to hope for, I know, but I do anyway...
Both sides here clearly have issues with that. Dyack has problems with criticism, as you can see when you look at his responses to GAF, and GAF does too, as you can see when you look at things like this thread.
