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EA sucks
- Thread starter Snuggles
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I know Jeff Green is too professional to sling dirt, but I really would like to hear all the details on the stuff he saw and what really soured him enough to bail from EA.
It seems like Riccitiello had things moving in a pretty good direction in 2008, and since then the company's been drifting back toward its old, bad habits.
I am curious to see how things ultimately end up with Bioware. If TOR isn't a big hit then it's going to be rough.
It seems like Riccitiello had things moving in a pretty good direction in 2008, and since then the company's been drifting back toward its old, bad habits.
I am curious to see how things ultimately end up with Bioware. If TOR isn't a big hit then it's going to be rough.
the moment my party of heroes stumbled upon a wounded man in a country glade, only to be asked if i would like to buy the option to save him from the ea store was truly a watershed moment in gaming for me.
there is no low activision have sunk to that e.a wouldn't replicate in a heartbeat if they thought it would yield similar profits.
there is no low activision have sunk to that e.a wouldn't replicate in a heartbeat if they thought it would yield similar profits.
speculawyer
Member
1. Pre-order hype - Meh Just ignore it. They all do it. Who gives a crap about a few skins. You'll probably be able to pick them up for 75 cents later at a Steam sale. This really only pisses me if if actual playable game content (levels, missions, etc.) can only be obtained by purchasing more than one full copy of the game.
2. "If EA's perception of you is correct, you are a sex-deprived, gore-obessed, sad manchild who is only impressed by the most XTREME of extremes. Let's enjoy a few trailers: " That certainly does not apply to everyone . . . but it is not a totally inaccurate profile of gamers.
3. NFL 2Kn. Agreed. All sports total exclusives should go away. The EA football one is particularly egregious since it was a complete and total monopoly on all football to one publisher. NFL, NCAA, and even Arena football were all bought and 100% controlled by EA.
2. "If EA's perception of you is correct, you are a sex-deprived, gore-obessed, sad manchild who is only impressed by the most XTREME of extremes. Let's enjoy a few trailers: " That certainly does not apply to everyone . . . but it is not a totally inaccurate profile of gamers.
3. NFL 2Kn. Agreed. All sports total exclusives should go away. The EA football one is particularly egregious since it was a complete and total monopoly on all football to one publisher. NFL, NCAA, and even Arena football were all bought and 100% controlled by EA.
diffusionx
Gold Member
FStop7 said:
I disagree with this assessment. Riccitello was a top exec when the company was at its near-worst (97-04) and I don't think a 3 year stint at a private equity firm changed his outlook on things.
I think what you see before you today is what they had in mind from day one. I think the whole "EA has changed their ways" thing was a sales pitch to gamers disillusioned by Activision's corporate behavior.
Seraphinianus
Banned
The_Technomancer said:
true. i haven't even played Dragon Age 2, but I'm sure it's a better game than Jade Empire.
CitizenCope
Member
When I go through my Tiger Woods PGA season and see Buy Course over and over through out the season I don't think "What dicks!" I think brilliant business move. Some suckers will buy them. $$$$ Good for them.
MalboroRed
Banned
speculawyer said:
That's not EA's problem, that's the NFL's problem, but then if the NFL thinks it's good business to license it to only one publisher, it's not for anyone but the NFL to decide, not to mention 2K simply does not have the capacity to compete anymore in the sports arena outside of basketball, if anything they should lose their MLB license.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
That's pretty much what I do. But (this is more of a general criticism of industry practices) when you hold back content just to milk money out of people, that's bullshit. Also, releasing buggy games and then patching afterwards.brotkasten said:
I guess it's not just EA. But that doesn't mean they don't suck.
MalboroRed
Banned
ghst said:
The sad thing is you know someone will pay money for that, just like how people bought horse armor.
The problem is that people say they dislike EA and when games like BF3 come out they buy them anyway.
revolverjgw
Member
EA has some good devs working for them/with them, but the company as a whole can go fuck a duck. A gathering of astrodouches.
I AM JOHN!
Banned
.psykomyko said:
Jintor said:
Game development is not like starting a blog on wordpress. Publishing is about money. Unless those independent studios can find the $50M+ it takes to fund the development of a AAA title, and the 25-50M+ more to market it, you won't be seeing publishers like EA and Activision fall by the wayside. Digital distribution or no.
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
subversus said:
Very poetic.
I think a better title would have been "EA, you are so close to being so good." If they would just listen to what people are telling them (like you said in the OP) they would be that much better of a publisher than Activision.
EA is a pretty big joke. Fortunately I believe the last game I bought from them was Dragon Age: Origins and don't see any that I will coming up in the future. Mind you I don't have a list in front of me to check but I don't recall anything good on the radar coming from them.
Edit: Aw dammit they have Battlefield 3. I'll wait and see if they butcher that as well.
Edit: Aw dammit they have Battlefield 3. I'll wait and see if they butcher that as well.
Nizz
Member
EA happens to publish a lot of games I really like. Battlefield BC series, Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, Crysis 2, Orange Box and the upcoming Portal 2. A lot of the games I want/have come from EA.
Plus, they started supporting the PS3 better in recent years. Sometime after 07 it seems, after the bad Madden port and less than ideal Orange Box port they really turned it around as far as development on the console is concerned.
Are they perfect? Maybe not. But as far as them and Activision imo EA are the lesser of two evils...
Plus, they started supporting the PS3 better in recent years. Sometime after 07 it seems, after the bad Madden port and less than ideal Orange Box port they really turned it around as far as development on the console is concerned.
Are they perfect? Maybe not. But as far as them and Activision imo EA are the lesser of two evils...
ghst said:
Is this the Shale quest? I've played all the DLC, but I don't remember a wounded man. I thought his cart was just broken down.
I never see this type of awkwardness, since I preorder the EA games I really want and thus get all the DLC. It must be immensely disrupting to see this sort of DLC shilling in-game. Can't believe Bioware went along with it.
brotkasten
Member
I think it's the Warden's Keep. The most stupid and offensive DLC I can think of.luxarific said:
You have to buy DLC to get one of the most basic elements in a RPG: A chest.
Gully State
Member
purple cobra said:
fixed...They both are shitty to consumers. Just one is more transparent than the other about it.
diffusionx said:
EA had two courses of action they could have took after they got the license
A) Continue on the path they were on with 04 and 05
B) Stagnate everything and release an average product.
One path (A) requires more time and money being spend to develop the product. The other path requires less time and money being spend to develop the product. The return of investment is going to be the same regardless of which path they took. They took the path that will benefit them more as a company. EA gets to spend less and make more money. The license plays a part in this, but its still EA's decision.
The lack of competition is only one aspect of the problem.
If all EA needs is competition to make a good product, explain the mess that is their NBA series. LIVE sucked for years, they overhaul the entire franchise and only created an even bigger mess that is Elite. They've had competiton in the NBA front for years and haven't been able to make any grounds. At least the NBA had enough common sense to deny EA an exclusive license. Also, even with competition from PES, it wasn't until recently that EA improved FIFA.
I want all exclusive licenses in sports games to go away. They do nothing to benefit the customer and only exist to benefit the league and the company making the game, but to say the license is the only reason why EA screwed up Madden is wrong.
The NFL (and other leagues) have every right to sell their license to whomever they see fit. Its their brand to do whatever they want with it.
polyh3dron
Banned
I support the online pass. It's a necessary evil to rid us of the cancer that is Gamestop.Full Recovery said:
charlequin
Banned
Donos said:
Origin Systems: Ultima (including Ultima Underworld and Ultima Online spinoffs), Wing Commander (and Privateer spinoff), System Shock (as publisher), as well as other ancient hidden gems like Bioforge, Ogre, Space Rogue, Crusader, and Shadowcaster
Bullfrog: Populous, Magic Carpet, Theme Park and Hospital, Dungeon Keeper, Hi-Octane, Syndicate
Westwood Studios: Command & Conquer, Lands of Lore, Legend of Kyrandia, Eye of the Beholder, the immortal and infamous Dune II, Blade Runner adventure game
Maxis: Anything with Sim in the name
All bought by EA during the 1990s, all shut down, almost all listed IPs gathering dust and the actual titles unavailable on any DD service.
Nirolak said:
Well put.
hamchan said:
This x 100000
Snuggler, I swear I was going to make a thread similar to this but you beat me to it, and have done it much better than I ever could. You hit the nail on the head my friend. EA fucking blows. I was going to buy Shi(f)t 2 but after realizing how much of a shitty console port it is, I gave them the finger. Their netcode is also among the worst ever, and the whole EA Nation thing makes me want to slit wrists. It's fucking abysmal!
They fucking blow. Period. God I wish Japanese devs were the dominant force in the industry again
cpp_is_king
Member
charlequin said:
I hope you realize that Sims is about as far from shut down as anything can possibly be. There was also a new C&C game a little while ago, and I recall seeing some hype about a major announcement coming sometime this year about a remake of one of the greatest games of all time. It was supposed to be announced in a magazine (maybe Gamepro or one of those other ones) sometime in the next few months. But it was really tight lipped, and there was no indication it was even related to EA, but the general consensus among all the people following it seemed to be that Syndicate was a really, really good guess.
cpp_is_king
Member
bangai-o said:
No, just Gamestop.
cpp_is_king said:
I don't think he's referring to The Sims or the billions of over priced expansions released for it.
Ever heard of a game called Sim Tower? Or Sim Ant? There are a lot of classic Maxis titles that aren't Sim City or The Sims, but unfortunately they're nothing but abandonware for now.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
I hear EA is actually a fairly nice place to work at nowadays. Sucks that they're dumping all their money into Bioware and TOR though.
KingJ2002
Member
when it comes to funding titles... EA is one of the best this generation. They know how to publish quality titles (that doesn't have an EA Sports logo on it). Their EA Partners program allows us to play some of the most ambitious titles this generation.
but MAAAAAAAN...
- The pre-order exclusives
- online code lockouts (i gamefly my games... can i at least try before i buy? gamefly already purchased your games!)
- Nickel & Dime DLC
practices that are now being picked up by other publishers like warner bros and thq.
these are clearly anti-gamer and anti-consumer... and in the past... it would have buried them... but we as consumers tolerate so much BS.
we bought the DLC
we preordered the games
and we purchased the online passes (some misinformed but whatever)
at the end of the day... the only way we're going to make a change is if we stop handing these companies our money for their BS.
but MAAAAAAAN...
- The pre-order exclusives
- online code lockouts (i gamefly my games... can i at least try before i buy? gamefly already purchased your games!)
- Nickel & Dime DLC
practices that are now being picked up by other publishers like warner bros and thq.
these are clearly anti-gamer and anti-consumer... and in the past... it would have buried them... but we as consumers tolerate so much BS.
we bought the DLC
we preordered the games
and we purchased the online passes (some misinformed but whatever)
at the end of the day... the only way we're going to make a change is if we stop handing these companies our money for their BS.
Lostconfused
Member
Really? For me it was when EA said "Pay us real money to get not real money in game so you can buy not real stuff in your game that you already bought" while playing that game. I think it was most wanted 6 years ago.ghst said:
Sure glad I skipped Shift 2. Until they release a MASSIVE patch for Shift 2 that significantly increases performance for the PC version, I will not be buying Shift 2 or any racing game with EA's name on, ever......again. Thank God for Codemasters, iRacing, and ISI.
polyh3dron
Banned
Gamestop is making more money than the people who actually make the games by giving people something like $5 for a used game and then turning around to sell it for something like $40. They actively push the used games on customers when there is sometimes only a $5 price difference between them and the new games. It's ruining the video game industry, so I support anything that incentivizes the purchase of new games over used ones and then encourages the used game consumers to pay those developers at least a small amount for the game.bangai-o said:
As for the DRM, it sounds really shitty, but I wouldn't know about that because I don't have a powerful enough computer to play games on.
Also, fuck EA for charging $60 for most of their PC releases but not giving them the same support as the console versions. Maybe this is on Epic, but I'd love the new Bulletstorm DLC but the PC version won't see it. Same case with the Dead Space 2 DLC mission and the NFS: Hot Pursuit DLC. Shame on me for buying their overpriced scam DLC in the first place, but it would have been cool to play Burnout Paradise island with my Steam version but that ain't gonna happen.
Weren't they just talkin up some digital distribution initiative? Cause I'm not seeing it.
Weren't they just talkin up some digital distribution initiative? Cause I'm not seeing it.
So apparently I'm too young (a sprightly 34) to play online in EA games anymore.
EA blame MS, MS say my xbl account is so old it doesn't have a DoB.
MS have offered me a token six month Live sub card to play under a different account as they can't add a DoB to my gamertag. So I have to use autolog etc. under a different gamertag.
Apparently only EA have this XBL account age check.
Fuck EA.
EA blame MS, MS say my xbl account is so old it doesn't have a DoB.
MS have offered me a token six month Live sub card to play under a different account as they can't add a DoB to my gamertag. So I have to use autolog etc. under a different gamertag.
Apparently only EA have this XBL account age check.
Fuck EA.
had my own little EA experience this weekend. been playing mass effect 2 lately and lost internet while playing. when i went back to start playing again later that night still without internet i couldnt. i always got a message saying something like "EA login details have changed, log in and try again" after pressing A to get rid of the message the game would restart and you get stuck in the same shit over and over. basically i could not play the game. :|
i was able to get past it by logging out of my live account just before the error message pops up, pressing start to get past the title screen and then logging back into live quickly before the mass effect menu shows up. doubt most people would figure out how to get around that shit.
fucking bullshit that EA stops me from playing an offline game while offline.
i was able to get past it by logging out of my live account just before the error message pops up, pressing start to get past the title screen and then logging back into live quickly before the mass effect menu shows up. doubt most people would figure out how to get around that shit.
fucking bullshit that EA stops me from playing an offline game while offline.