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Early 'The Mummy' reviews, "Dark Universe is dead on arrival"
- Thread starter LordOfLore
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More people need to watch Oblivion but I would call Jack Reacher a generic action flick, though.
I disagree. Well done CUs have a recognizable endgame. Bringing the Superheroes together finish the storyline, let the two big monster finally fight.
Nobody has even a idea what the endgame here could be.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
I think most people here want the team-up film to be a comedy with Seth Rogen and James Franco.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Alex Kurtzman sucks, as does Bob Orci. Why anyone would put a cinematic universe on these guy's backs is beyond me.
Well, okay, the Transformers movies make bank, but they have horrible scripts and are horrible films.
Well, okay, the Transformers movies make bank, but they have horrible scripts and are horrible films.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
All of the "cinematic universes" I can think of off the top of my head
- The old universal one (monsters appear together and either fight, team up, or both in different combinations)
- Aliens vs Predator (the monsters fight)
- Marvel (they team up, while occasionally fighting for contrived reasons)
- DC (they team up, while occasionally fighting for contrived reasons)
- Those weird arse Kaiju mashups including the new one they're trying to do (the monsters fight, and if they're good guy monsters sometimes they team up)
Spoilers, the end game is the monsters teaming up to fight other monsters, while occasionally fighting each other for contrived reasons. Shared universes and monster mashes are the cinematic equivalent of a kid having all his toys duke it out even though it doesn't make sense that godzilla is fighting mr freeze.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Went for Cruise missile.
Was
not disappointed.
Was
not
First, your post comes of a bit antagonistic and I am not sure why.
Second, yes, everything is shitty when you break it down to the smallest component.
Let me still adress your examples
In regards of the new ones, its actually one of the better attempts to carefully build up the universe. And yeah, the big fight will most likely the climax. But it makes more sense then this.
Second, yes, everything is shitty when you break it down to the smallest component.
Let me still adress your examples
Yeah, and I like to get pong even when I can get something like The Last of Us. It was the Proto-CU, still nobody gave overall a shit, even when they kinda started it all.
No Cinematic Universe, the Vs Movies arent even canon.
You are aware of all the Infinity Gautlet stuff and are overlooking it.
Same as with the Dark Verse, one of the biggest complaints is that they are throwing all at the wand and act to quickly. But from the thematic, you can see that its going to be similar to Marvel.
[In regards of the old ones: Look at my Universal Argument.
In regards of the new ones, its actually one of the better attempts to carefully build up the universe. And yeah, the big fight will most likely the climax. But it makes more sense then this.
Kinda expected this! But I also like a good reason why everyone comes together fighting. Even when its a movie with Godzilal Vs Mr Freeze
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
so I guess you're disappointed 🤔
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Thrillhou2
Member
If the movie kept that ridiculous ADR scream from the trailer, I think I'll like it.
Marvel & DC universes actually make sense though.
"We hired this crazy chick with a baseball bat to stop Superman."
...
"What do you say, she was knocked out cold by Batman?"
Is that a reference to this mummy movie?
More_Badass
Member
Boiling the MCU down to "they team up, and sometimes fight" misses the entire reasons why that cinematic universe works and every other one has failed. It's more than just teams-up and fights, more than just the big Avengers money shot. Every other company thinks that the key is to rush to that money shot, that's why you got them teasing their entire line-up and cast and movie list before the first movie comes out. "Hey, remember how cool it was to see the Avengers together, well we're doing the same thing, aren't you excited"
But the MCU worked because it started small and didnt do that. Individual stories with very slight connecting threads that helped make them all feel unique while also being facets of the same world. A slow gradual snowball of references and connections that helped acclimate the viewers to this world, its characters, and other aspects, and made you think, "wait, all these people are in the same world, how the hell are they going to mesh together". That Avengers money shot, and the Avengers in general, wasn't such a big thing because it was like a comic book come to life, or because it was the expected end game, but also because there had been four years of build-up to show how all these weirdly disparate stories could dovetail cohesively as well as you imagined. It was earned narrative pay-off, not just some expected cinematic universe bulletpoint.
Funnily, enough, if BVS hadn't happened, Man of Steel and Wonder Woman could have worked really well in the same way IMO. Both very separate different stories, with the slight connecting thread of Wayne Enterprises (the satellite in MoS, the framing device in WW). Hinting at a larger connected world, while wondering how these stories and worlds (aliens and mythological gods/magic) will collide.
Saw it today and was not into it.
Too many ideas barely given time to breathe and a whole lot of advertising (I was worried when the film had a big ol' "Dark Universe" logo at the start).
The mummy was ok cause of Sofia, but that was just another aspect that didn't really go anywhere. Cruise's character was boring.
Too many ideas barely given time to breathe and a whole lot of advertising (I was worried when the film had a big ol' "Dark Universe" logo at the start).
The mummy was ok cause of Sofia, but that was just another aspect that didn't really go anywhere. Cruise's character was boring.
LordOfLore
Banned
One question: Does she survive the movie? She has been in a bunch of photos with the stars for the next Dark Universe movies but they've never mentioned her as returning after this one. Tag your answer.
---No----
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The Good News
It's being turned into a T.V series, hopefully with Karl Urban, so that means we get more hours of Dredd
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Just got back from this.
The kindest that I can give is that it's... inoffensive.
The kindest that I can give is that it's... inoffensive.
Violence Jack
Member
I think the last trailer spoiled the ending of the film.
But it didn't look good from the get go, and Cruise seems very out of place in this. I'll be going to see Wonder Woman instead.
But it didn't look good from the get go, and Cruise seems very out of place in this. I'll be going to see Wonder Woman instead.
Trailer 3? Oh yeah. But if you watched the previous trailers and can count one and one together, ypu already know what happens.
It does not. It's now a very short, different yell before a cut to white.
That's most of what she does, outside of two points where she speaks and another where she creates the sand/glass storm in London. Her role is essentially to just bitch slap Cruise more than a few times.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Plus if you ask me BvS would have pleased a lot more audiences if its over-stuffed story had been spread out across a plan of two films.
Too bad everyone freaked out when it was rumored.
Universal never had a cinematic universe. They just had crossover movies that had nothing to do with any of the other movies. There is not consistency or through line. Hell sometimes even supposed sequels don't connect to what was supposed to be a prequel. Universal likes to pretend they had a single universe, but they really didn't.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Like the X-Men cinematic universe has any consistency...
Still. Its the Prototype of the idea.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This was very expected. Sad as it is.
I wouldn't disagree. Whatever Fox is doing is also not a consistent universe.
Marvel and DC have the only real ones.
CloudyTuba
Member
In general I usually feel a certain amount of comfortable certainty that if I attend a Tom Cruise movie, it will at the very least achieve a certain level of entertainment competence. Not necessarily great but rarely horrible. I don't know if it's his discretion when choosing projects or if he exerts a certain level of control over the projects he's involved with, but it usually works out that way.
I'm very disappointed to hear all this about The Mummy. However since I am in the position to see it for free, I'll probably still do it.
Cruise plays more of a thieving rogue in this, if that helps you decide. But the problem is that he is constantly told that he only cares about himself, but only one scene at the beginning really shows it to be true. The rest he plays as caring, and foolishly aloof to the things happening around him.
The majority of the stories are inherently standalone and tragic.
Not ideal for crossovers.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So Nathan Drake.
LordOfLore
Banned
22% now. 64 rotten reviews. Only Universal monster movie that is further down in the rankings is The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor which had 12%.
Jawmuncher
Member
They were better off bringing Brendan Fraiser back for the nostalgia angles
Kermode's review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4BzoULAIk0
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Basically. But with less charisma and less fighting techniques and shaking his head a lot due to
seeing flashes
LordOfLore
Banned
1 hour later and it's down to 21%.
NealMcCauley
Member
Their "Oh fuck you" at the Dark Universe logo was great.
Honestly I liked this movie as much as I thought it would (that is, I liked it). It was a good action movie with good characters and a bunch of great scenes. Nothing spectacular but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's a good start to the Dark Universe and I hope their next movie is more well received critically. Honestly I just want more good Frankenstein and Dracula movies.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
....aaaaand it's gone. :|