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Easy Allies |EZOT| Good Vibes and Good Hype
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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Damiani reset the password during the stream so that if it had hiccups Kyle couldn't reset it. Then he went to sleep.
A wrestling champion can't simply choose to not have a title match expecting that he can keep the championship, even if his opponent is a cheating heel. I'm sure Huber, as a big wrestling fan, knows this and keeps defending his ownership of the Slusser Cup in the Bets Showdowns.
It's not really a playthrough. Kyle doesn't make it very far. https://www.twitch.tv/easyallies/v/76140844
Already Torn
Banned
That was never going to happen. It's no PokéPark or G-Force.
I love the way he casually said "and the one I've chosen is from SGDQ 2015, let's bring it up here".
Earthpainting
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Yeah, this three dimensional Raumschach chess game is all part of the dance that is the E3 Betting Special.
IdreamofHIME
Member
So I was thinking maybe they could add a new tier to patreon at $43000 and they can use that money to sue Bosman for breach of contract.
I'm with Kyle on this one.
The moment he brought out a contract, he was begging for Kyle to find a loophole.
You can argue that Kyle started this with his infamous comedy special, but that's debatable, since asking someone to have a one hour comedy special with original material, prepared in a month, is just completely absurd.
Novel Mike
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The first troll was cute and funny.
This second one is just disappointing and I really wish everyone would stop encouraging Kyle by saying this is 'masterful' and crap. It's not, its not trolling, its just him being a prick and it will drive away people from Final Bets (one of the BEST parts of e3 for the last several years) and possibly EZA itself, people already taking money back from subs and shit for it all because Kyle has to be a little bitch and get out of his bet any way he can.
Who the fuck wants to bet against a jackass like that? I doubt we'll get another Betting special now, certainly at least not one with Kyle in it. I hope Huber is pissed and I won't blame him for not wanting to do the bets anymore.
Now maybe Kyle is screwing with everyone a second time and in the third time hes going to actually stream him playing the whole game, I'd like to believe that but I seriously don't think Kyle has that amount of integrity.
This second one is just disappointing and I really wish everyone would stop encouraging Kyle by saying this is 'masterful' and crap. It's not, its not trolling, its just him being a prick and it will drive away people from Final Bets (one of the BEST parts of e3 for the last several years) and possibly EZA itself, people already taking money back from subs and shit for it all because Kyle has to be a little bitch and get out of his bet any way he can.
Who the fuck wants to bet against a jackass like that? I doubt we'll get another Betting special now, certainly at least not one with Kyle in it. I hope Huber is pissed and I won't blame him for not wanting to do the bets anymore.
Now maybe Kyle is screwing with everyone a second time and in the third time hes going to actually stream him playing the whole game, I'd like to believe that but I seriously don't think Kyle has that amount of integrity.
Already Torn
Banned
It's pretty wonderful and super funny. He even goes out of his way to point out that the houses in Skyward Sword have separate beds for each family member!
Or is this a meme that I'm missing, like with the Japanese culture thing?
Hades Hotgun
Banned
WOAH there! You have some serious anger issues.
Thrashinuva
Banned
The contract
I, Kyle Bosman, agree to the terms set forth within this document in regards to the proposed "stakes" outlined by Michael Patrick Huber during the Easy Allies E3 Bets Showdown. I will stream live a complete full playthrough of "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past" from a new save slot until the ending credits on the Easy Allies twitch page in no more than three sessions, finishing no later than July 8th, 2016. Three minutes prior to each stream I will tweet from my own personal twitter account "@kylebosman" the following quote with no less and no more words or symbols attached: "I'm about to stream my favorite game of all time "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past" #masterpiece". Upon full completion of the game I will discuss my favorite parts of the game for no less than three minutes on Huber Syndrome.
It's true, there are loopholes like crazy here.
I, Kyle Bosman, agree to the terms set forth within this document in regards to the proposed "stakes" outlined by Michael Patrick Huber during the Easy Allies E3 Bets Showdown. I will stream live a complete full playthrough of "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past" from a new save slot until the ending credits on the Easy Allies twitch page in no more than three sessions, finishing no later than July 8th, 2016. Three minutes prior to each stream I will tweet from my own personal twitter account "@kylebosman" the following quote with no less and no more words or symbols attached: "I'm about to stream my favorite game of all time "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past" #masterpiece". Upon full completion of the game I will discuss my favorite parts of the game for no less than three minutes on Huber Syndrome.
It's true, there are loopholes like crazy here.
Novel Mike
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I'm not even really angry I just think Kyle is being a dick about it.
I have found overreactions like yours to be way more entertaining than any Zelda play through could ever be.
That's how Kyle is. Are you surprised?
WiseSplinteR
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I'd love it if Huber prints out some comprehensive 500 page contract that Kyle has to read, sign and initial every page of for the next bets special. Just tell him there's a page in there that gives away all his worldly possessions to Benson, so he has to read each one.
Seriously though, Kyle is a very funny man.
L&R
Seriously though, Kyle is a very funny man.
L&R
Damiani hinted that he wanted to do it together with Bosman, I think it could have been great.
It's actually the community that created this monster, Kyle seemed baffled at first when everyone instantly asked and suggested that he would try to circumvent the whole thing somehow.
Kyle did stream Outlast and he did wear that stupid guitar t-shirt that Huber cut the sleeves off of. Obviously the 1 hour stand-up special was unreasonable and Kyle loopholing that was the right thing to do.
But since the community already expected him to loophole his way out of this he just gave the community what they expected.
I do hope Huber will call foul play on this and keep the Slusser Cup until they can come to some kind of agreement on an acceptable punishment for this. Any jury would side with Huber on this.
Edit:
Kyle streaming Outlast. Is this archieved on youtube? It should be.
https://www.twitch.tv/gametrailers/v/43331763
While I do agree with you that I find it disappointing, there is no reason to call him names for this. Kyle likes to troll and I find it usually very funny. I think this is funny as well, but I wouldn't bet against Kyle anymore either. Also I do agree he should have played the game. It wasn't unreasonable (the one hour strandup thing in a month was quite unreasonable and the other standup he did was wonderful).
In the end a lot of people enjoy this as well, so let's just call it taste.
He didn't screw up something serious except for maybe dividing their fans (although he always preaches Love & Respect I don't think screwing Huber over is very respectful), but there are also people who don't like certain shows while others do, so it is not the end of the world either.
Relax, it's just taste. I got quite pissed off about it at first as well, but there certainly is no reason to call him names over this.
Love & Respect.
Japanmanx3
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Wow lol.
TheDarkKnight774
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Yea. I'm tired of Kyles loopholes for a bet payoff that was incredibly mild. Like streaming ALTTP is some harsh punishment. The only reason the contract existed in the first place is Kyke wanting to always weasel out of his bets. Huber didn't need one. That could easily be the last Huber/Kyle betting special we see, and I wouldn't blame Huber at all.
I don't have a problem with his 2 standup shows. He did do standup. For this one, he didn't play the game in full from a new save slot.
I'm just afraid he is screwing up the betting specials.
I also am not a fan of people not honoring bets. I expected him to troll, but I thought he was going to troll the game or just annihilate it on stream. But what can you do.
I think it is good to see people are enjoying this a lot (because it has a purpose if that's the case). I understand why as well (the streams itself are fine for me), it is more that it doesn't show respect against Huber. We will see what Huber thinks about it.
Not really. I wanted to listen to him complain about every stupid little detail that he has a problem with. That would have been way more entertaining than what we got, no matter what anyone's opinion is on the outcome of the bet.
I do completely agree with this. I never had the urge to cancel my pledge for this. I don't think a lot of people seriously considered it to be honest.
Up to 39k again btw.
I do think it scares away new potential subscribers (for youtube, twitch and/or patreon) who found the streams on twitch by accident. In that way, I think it damages the EZA brand.
I think he just has a problem with the general structure of the game, that feels less adventurous.
I don't think he'd be able to pick apart every other room, unless he was forcing himself to do so.
He also mentioned in the past that he likes to criticize titles that people revere as perfect masterpieces (mentioning Half Life 2 as an example) so that also probably plays a part in his "hate" of ALTTP.
That was what I was secretly hoping for.
I'm pretty sure he talks about ALttP the way he does because of the reason you've mentioned but at the same time I'm sure he probably played through the game at some point in the past at least once. He's too much of a Nintendo/Zelda fan to hate on the game so much without giving it a real try.
I'm not salty and I'm in no way thinking about pulling my pledge for a troll that was just waiting to happen but I do admit that I'm a little disappointed. A Link to the Past has been my GOAT ever since I've first played it as a kid on my SNES and I would have loved to see someone I enjoy watching play through it.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
He has always honored his bets. This idea that he hasn't is nonsense. The bets have been going for a long time and Bosman always followed through. This is the first and only time he has actually used a loophole.
The idea that he could make a 1 hour comedy special on top of his actual work in a short time wth original material is absurd and even paid stand up comedians don't do that, so the fact that he even honored the actual word of the bet was impressive.
Ta. Shame it's all just the tutorial intro part which (while enjoyable to play through once) doesn't do the game justice.
Acquiescence
Member
If Kyle pulls the same joke on his second stream of the game, and then plays through the whole game legitimately on his third, then the man is a genius troll.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Looks like Blood plans to have a group council tomorrow when the group meets to determine if Kyle satisfied the bet. I hope the group doesn't fall into wording semantics and has Kyle actually honor the bet.
He's done 2 now. One where he played for 5 minutes as that's all he could take, today's where he put a full speed run on in the corner while he played Skyward Sword. So one to go, WE SHALL SEE.
ShaoranWright
Member
One thing I find curious with all this Kyle not honoring the bet, is that it seems people are conveniently forgetting the second bet he lost to Huber when he did a 10 minutes stand-up with complete original material, in other words, if he can't find a loophole he will do the bet as originally intended.
In other words, Huber DEFINITELY needs a lawyer for the next bet.
In other words, Huber DEFINITELY needs a lawyer for the next bet.
I really hope this won't splinter the group. I don't think it will, but these types of discussions can be toxic (see this thread for reference).
I thought the same about the lawyer, but then I imagined Kyle going through multiple pages of contract next year. That's not jolly at all.
When you do bets like this between friends, you kind of expect some way of respect so they will work with your bet if they lose imo.
In a real legal battle, this is different of course, but it shouldn't be the case in a bet like this.
Although he did indeed honor his previous bets as far as I remember, I can see a ban on bets for EZA.
In fact, I felt that the second stream felt much better than the first one. I just wanted to see him pay a Zelda game and that actually happened, therefore I'm ok with it.
PS: Sadly it was 3am here in NY and couldn't watch the whole thing ;_; I'll try to watch the replay today.
PS: Sadly it was 3am here in NY and couldn't watch the whole thing ;_; I'll try to watch the replay today.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
*Shrug* Kyles is doing his WWE wrestling villian bit with all this. If there's really only true payoffs if one side wins (Kyle) then I have no interest in the betting special to continue. I don't find that fun or entertaining. I'm not going to cancel subs, or patreon amounts, etc. but I'm also not going to praise Kyle for taking his villian role and overplaying it on a payoff that is so incredibly mild. Hubers payoff was so much tougher and punishing this last go around.
In the end it is their decission and not ours. I don't think he honored the bet either, but I will probably still watch the special next year as I really like the format. I will just see it as predictions then without stakes.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Did he get permission from the speed runner to show that run?
Just noticed they've uploaded the stream thier YT channel and other streamers can be quite finicky about that kinda thing.
Just noticed they've uploaded the stream thier YT channel and other streamers can be quite finicky about that kinda thing.
FlashbladeGAF
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Is there love or respect in someone who doesnt honor a bet? :/
Already Torn
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It took almost the entire stream just to get Link's clothes on in Skyward Sword, but it was still way less boring than what was happening in the Link to the Past stream. Could you imagine if he actually did the whole thing?
Of course, and he did honor the bet.
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