Don't bother, apparently GAF is filled with engine experts. =/
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox
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Don't bother, apparently GAF is filled with engine experts. =/
Agent Ironside
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You're getting lost in the details. Throw art direction out the window, Sony's 1st party titles have overall, been more impressive from a technical stand point, in most aspects. Again, overall, majority, etc. Maybe Sony has more talent on the 1st party side of things.
It worked last time?
Except Sony is a Japanese company and despite Japan's sagging relevance in the console sector is still home to a disproportionate number of 3rd party developers.
Meanwhile Europe is historically the weakest market for launch and picks up steam in the 12-24 month window, and Sony will likely have Gran Turismo ready within that window.
If they're afraid that they'll barely have enough hardware for U.S. and JP releases it makes a lot of sense delaying Europe.
Liquidsnake
Banned
$399 is my breaking point. I can not cross this threshold out of principal.
You are really wrong here, I2 technically is well done: HDR, SSAO & higher texture are not that common in a free roaming game. I don't know how texture filter you are talking because Rage engine sucks from this point of view. & I repeat, SP is probably one of the littler team in the sony first parties studio, at least at the time. You can compare Rockstar San Diego numbers to the Sucker punch Team.
What's wrong with comparing exclusive games?
Comparing multiplatform games is like looking at the lowest common denominator since the game has to run on two completely (looking at the 360 and PS3 here) different platforms.
Comparing exclusives on the other hand allows you to judge the best the system has to offer since the game is custom tailored for that hardware.
I do think Red Dead looks better on most aspects than Infamous 2, but the game world is much more sparse and empty. Not to mention that Rockstar is a huge developer and Sucker Punch is a much smaller one.
Angry Fork
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Face is melting @ 8gb, video recording and new controller.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I can't wait until we see how this thing looks. Feel bad for comrades in Europe but hopefully it won't be region locked and they can import?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I can't wait until we see how this thing looks. Feel bad for comrades in Europe but hopefully it won't be region locked and they can import?
Fried Food
Banned
For where we are now (not having seen console, games) my hype has reached critical mass. The only thing to increase it is a proper reveal.
Insane Metal
Member
What's so funny?
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What I mean is that every new generation there are 'insiders' saying that Sony's console is the most powerful. This always happens. And in the end it's usually not true.
The Mana Legend
Banned
I would be more excited if I hadn't already been doing it for years with my PC. But it's cool to have on consoles.
*dies*
*wife calls ambulance*
*revived*
*tells wife that I love her*
*promises never to read GAF again*
*reads GAF*
*dies again*
8GB GDDR5 woooow!!!
Just temper your expectations regarding the 8GB.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Well, I was not the only one that found your post funny.
Orbis being more powerful has been known since we started getting the hardware spec leaks. Also since both MS/Sony are using similar platforms, they are more directly comparable than say 360/PS3. Having more powerful hardware also doesnt mean an automatic win, so not sure why you are so worried.
Infamous 2 had better texture filtering?
Did we play the same game?
The textures being higher resolution is also questionable.
I can't accept some week of delay of difference in europe but Christmas in the US/Jap & March on EU? No, fuck you sony.
Melchiah
Member
And alternatively, not everyone wants to share everything on the web. Those dollars could have gone for something that would actually benefit gaming.
Please dear god don't tell me you are pinning your hopes on a "special sauce"
Now that term is definitely something made up by a PR team for viral marketers
D
Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
It's 2013. One of the greatest things this gen was worldwide releases becoming the norm rather than the exception. You can't just put that genie back into the bottle.
soundahfekz
Member
it will NOT have 8GB of GDDR5. Don't set yourselves up for disappointment, that statement is tricky,
The hell is that shit? :\ I2 is a capture of a streaming video of gamespot, how you can compare to DF capture method? It's completely unfaithful. I have played the demo, is not that bad, come on.
Infamous 2 had better texture filtering?
Insane Metal
Member
Lol, not worried at all. All I'm saying is that going by the numbers it does look like it's more powerful, but that needs to be proven in real world performance.
But whatever, the games are the most important, as usual.
(And I'm a Sony's franchises lover btw)
I posted the wrong picture. Check the update.
Well, you can just play games.
Its optional. Noone is forcing you to use that button.
manzo
Member
8GB will be possible, but not with GDDR5. A 2GB chunk of GDDR5 in 4 x 512MB chips would cost about 43$... so you'd need 16 chips to get 8GB, which would
1) cost you over 160$
2) make the motherboard insanely large, even in clamshell mode
3) make the motherboard so hot that you could do bacon on it.
8GB of DDR3 stacked in a 1024-bit bus would do the same trick.
If this stuff is true, then Microsoft has already loss the perception that it'll have superior (or even equal) hardware to Sony's beast. If that's the case, I'm starting to wonder if I should even get Microsoft's console at launch seeing how 1) Sony has always had superior 1st party games and 2) Sony will potentially also have superior 3rd party ports. Those two plus free online play and suddenly Microsoft isn't looking so great.
soundahfekz
Member
This is exactly what it means. I let the hype take me for a milisecond myself but the feasibility of 8GB GDDR5 in a 2013 console is slim to none. 4GB is awesome as it is.
Ok, checked. Well, probably Rage has better AF but texture still sucks compared to I2, looks the ground. In any case the perspective is completely different to understand how works in I2, at least on the ground.
The paragraph from the article makes no sense when you parse it that way. Regardless of the reality of the situation, Edge seems to think the quantity of RAM may be increased.
manzo
Member
Better start raging then.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I don't see how they would even be close if Sony had 8 GB GDDR5. That would be a beast of a machine.
for the people bitching about the eu launch possibly being later, do you not remember the vita? it was also delayed for north america. i get that europe is always last, but sony doesn't delay releases because they want to. they want to have it in all regions as soon as possible, just like any of their competitors. also, if it's anything like the vita launch delay, it might not be more than a couple months.
I do.
Omotesando
Member
Sony is so far in a much better position / perspective than at the launch of PS3. The signs are good.
so which is better? to me it would make sense to have more (slightly slower) RAM instead of of having less and hitting the storage device (disc or hdd).
I mean if you needed 6GB say, it would be better to have it all in memory than keep going back and swapping bits and pieces, right? I don't know.
September/October in US, Christmas in EU, I can accept this. But fuck them if they screw Christmas for the EU.
Those prices look high, where are you sourcing them from?
Regardless, 8GB GDDR5 will be expensive. It'll probably increase about ~30W in power consumption as well.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Last time the 360 was hampered by lack of brand awareness and shoddy hardware, those are two points that no longer exist. Xbox is a big brand now, even in Europe. The end of generation advertising from MS has been quite big on the continent, so Sony need to watch out. Like I said, unless they are 110% certain there is no next gen COD/FIFA coming in 2013 then releasing in 2014 is not an option. They cannot allow MS to build an XBLG userbase who will draw their friends onto Xbox.
The power isn't that important, what will matter is games (and to a lesser degree online cost)
If microsoft can put some interesting exclusive games in their lineup it'll be a good battle
Sucks about European launch if true
Backfoggen
Banned
Unless it specifically states 8GB GDDR5, I wouldn't get my hopes up.