CountAntonius
Member
When and if Microsoft and Sony both announce their no secondhand always on plans GAF is gonna have the collective meltdown of all meltdowns.
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EDGE: The next Xbox: Always online, no second-hand games, 50GB Blu-ray and new kinect
- Thread starter Hanmik
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GameStop makes big money buying/selling used games.
I am glad someone else gets it. 1 won't do it with out the other also doing it. I just hope they can't come to an agreement on this so it does not happen. No chance in hell most of us pay 59.99 for a disk rental.
I think everyone here collectively is hoping this is not true, but considering the insane things we have seen in the past (N64 carts over CDs, PS3 599 etc.) this would not really be as shocking when you look at the industry as a whole.
EDGE is a pretty reputable source, still we have to hope that they either misunderstood/poorly worded something or are just plain wrong.
What's kinect?
And most all PC ports of multiplatform games will be always online too. People thinking PC platform is going to be some bastion of hope are delusional. This will be an industry wide change, ESPECIALLY if it comes to consoles first.
edit. Exception aside of course, there will still be PC developers who will not use always online, but you can bet they'll use that as a marketing feature to sell their game.
Neuromancer
Member
But they sell games to Redbox and Gamefly. I bet they make a fair amount of money from those sales.
No you can't there are plenty of rumors that they've said that they won't respond to rumors or speculation that haven't come true.
Rumor: The Xbox 360 is coming out on November 4.
Answer: "Microsoft has made no official announcements regarding the release date for the Xbox 360. We do not comment on rumor or speculation."--Microsoft spokesperson.
Fact: False
Rumor: Halo 3 is coming out on November 16.
Answer: "Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation."--Microsoft rep.
Fact: False
Rumor: Microsoft buying CAPCOM
Answer: "Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation." -- Microsoft rep
Fact: False
Your logic isn't doing very well here.... It's a generic response to just about all rumors put forth to Microsoft it has no basis on truth of the rumor.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Very dumb and anti consumerist shit move by MS if real.
The only feature the new Xbox has going for it at this point.
Glass Rebel
Member
legacyzero
Banned
Ding ding ding!
Dark Octave
Banned
When did I say I was more of anything than anybody else? I simply said that MS' used game idea doesn't effect me one bit. I don't buy a game because of the possibility to get money back from it. I buy games because I enjoy playing games. No other reasons for incentives are needed for me to enjoy my favorite hobby.
Take it as you will.
You're right. MS and Sony are just going to surprise publishers with this like a big fucking birthday present for them
Pachterballs
Banned
no 2nd hand games. I thought that was a sony thing.
How is this thing going to deal with game rentals if true.
I refuse to believe its true. NEW XBOMB if true.
How is this thing going to deal with game rentals if true.
I refuse to believe its true. NEW XBOMB if true.
Uno Venova
Banned
Good for you, just no need act obnoxious to people who want to believe a respected site over patents, especially since many patents get filed and nothing comes of it. Your entitled to take patents over 'hearsay' if you want.
plutoknight
Member
I read this and I immediately thought of Diablo III..... a chill ran up my spine.
This is not the future I want. Not at all.
You would run a business the same way. Ask that company who opened online like a year ago with noble attentions how they are doing. Some games will have drastically lower tivs because they dont sell right away and languish on the shelves till they are 20 - 30 deep and are $20 new. Some will have $30 tiv and there is always some trade in promotion going on at gamestop to get more, if someone got just base value its really their own fault. It only takes a minute to look at the CAG trade in thread.
Point is game prices drop so erraticaly and drastically you are losing money left and right to buy games for the $45 people are wishing when it sells new next week for $35. I really dont understand how people still dont get this.
Tyrone_Biggums
Banned
This is the future. People will complain, just like they did when Steam first launched. Now that platform is accepted, even loved by the majority of PC fans. Consolites will get on board sooner rather than later.
This is why its fucking fake. This move makes no sense and no leaks stated this shit anyhow besides this article that's feeding the February 20th ps4 hype train. I seriously call bullshit.
Just because something doesn't have an effect on you doesn't mean you should be OK with it. That is horrible logic.
Isn't Steam, as a free platform, smaller than the 360 install base, which is a paid platform?
ShockingAlberto
Member
Technically Redbox buys rental copies from the publisher for higher prices to make use of them for longer periods of time.
So they probably make money off me, but might not make money off the 25th person to rent that copy.
CambriaRising
Member
Are people really defending this? Wow.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Yeah, if the trade off is steam like holiday sales, I could get behind it. Honestly if a game system and a game doesn't have a whack control scheme, I will put up with BS to play it.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Does it suck that I can't get games I am mildly interested in for cheaper second hand instead of risking a full price purchase?
Yes
Is it inevitable?
Absolutely
I think both consoles can leverage a lot of this by creating a purchasing ecosystem much like Steam:
-Great preorder bonuses and discounts
-Games at a variety of prices
-Full game demo access
Yes
Is it inevitable?
Absolutely
I think both consoles can leverage a lot of this by creating a purchasing ecosystem much like Steam:
-Great preorder bonuses and discounts
-Games at a variety of prices
-Full game demo access
Presumably most people want to believe it's true because a well-respected source is proclaiming it in a matter-of-fact manner as slated for a specific upcoming product, as opposed to being yet another wacky output of the same SCE patent mill which that comes up with things like interactive TV commercials and foot-mounted Moves that never reach market.
A minority
no
no
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Originally Posted by BruceLeeRoy:
Not every gamer is rich and some people like to be able to buy multiple games in a relatively short time frame. Not everyone buys only 1 game a year. Not everyone wants to blow $60-$70 on a new unproven IP or franchise. If you do not like the game or if you get bored of it quick, you re stuck with it. Demos are not always indicative of the final product either. Plain and simple, if companies even consider getting rid of used games which imo is anti-consumer, they need to lower game prices to more reasonable prices. We had so many bombs and studio closings this generation where you can actually get rid of the game if you weren't satisfied with it. What's going to happen when games cost more to procure and you cannot get rid of them or try them out?
Not every gamer is rich and some people like to be able to buy multiple games in a relatively short time frame. Not everyone buys only 1 game a year. Not everyone wants to blow $60-$70 on a new unproven IP or franchise. If you do not like the game or if you get bored of it quick, you re stuck with it. Demos are not always indicative of the final product either. Plain and simple, if companies even consider getting rid of used games which imo is anti-consumer, they need to lower game prices to more reasonable prices. We had so many bombs and studio closings this generation where you can actually get rid of the game if you weren't satisfied with it. What's going to happen when games cost more to procure and you cannot get rid of them or try them out?
rakkadakka
Member
What I find bizarre is that people think there isn't a fair comparison to be made.
If Steam and PC games with serial codes hadn't set the precedent for this, MS wouldn't be making this move.
gundamkyoukai
Member
After thinking about some more if they do this but work out a system where i can still lend games to friends or exchange serials in some way .
That would make things much easier for people to accept but with they way how this sounds now it not looking good.
That would make things much easier for people to accept but with they way how this sounds now it not looking good.
Jake Tower
Banned
After a generation is over, do you ever seek out games you missed out the first time? Games that are out of print and out of stock at retail?
Exactly. PC games had always-online bullshit way before consoles. And now/if consoles have it too, this just makes it easier for third parties to slap this DRM on their games and add elements into them to make sure you HAVE to be always online. To unify this as a new norm in gaming. Jim Sterling doesn't know what he's on about. PC is not immune to these practices, it spearheaded them.
You don't have to be online to play games on Steam. Steam itself will allow you to play your games in offline mode it depends on the games themselves if the DRM blocks online play.
I like DLC...
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
I was amazed at people defending the revolting trend for DLC 5yrs ago, some people will defend anything.